IGT 8/11/09 - Mets vs. Snakes

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

That cocky, descended-from-criminals-and-retarded-apes Marmite eater.

Also, nice hustle.

[Fman99]

="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":3f5pjwf4]That cocky, descended-from-criminals-and-retarded-apes Marmite eater. Also, nice hustle.[/quote:3f5pjwf4] I had to look up "marmite." But now I can use it in a profane manner! Gosh, I'm so clever. That guy can lick Marmite out of my dingo-hole.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 08:59 PM

Mmm... yeasty. Is there an Outback here? There's got to be an Outback here, right? Someone hit a home run there, now.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 11 2009 09:01 PM

Cory Sullivan: Future mayor of Buffalo

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:07 PM

Nice catch on Montero, Hotline. Now learn to throw, and hit, and stuff.

Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:11 PM

And I'm guessing this one is because our IWs have been working out so well recently?

metsguyinmichigan Aug 11 2009 09:12 PM

If only we could have back-to-back series with a couple teams well under .500, then we're really kick some butt.....oh, wait.

Fman99 Aug 11 2009 09:12 PM

Redding and his big dumb merkin get out of the 6th, or whatever damn inning it is.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:13 PM

="Frayed Knot":m8ly7988]And I'm guessing this one is because our IWs have been working out so well recently?[/quote:m8ly7988] That's one! One right there! I'm almost disappointed, 'cause it'll only encourage him. Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:14 PM ="Frayed Knot":28lz9e4s]And I'm guessing this one is because our IWs have been working out so well recently?[/quote:28lz9e4s] Well, I guess this one did work -- so long as we define "working" as rigging it so that the top of the lineup leads off next inning. Fman99 Aug 11 2009 09:18 PM ="Frayed Knot":3kbs49m6]And I'm guessing this one is because our IWs have been working out so well recently?[/quote:3kbs49m6] What are IWs? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:21 PM FRENCHED, AGAIN! And stranded. Fman99 Aug 11 2009 09:23 PM ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]FRENCHED, AGAIN! And stranded. PHPBB FAIL Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:25 PM ="Fman99":35vnax0b] ="Frayed Knot":35vnax0b]And I'm guessing this one is because our IWs have been working out so well recently?[/quote:35vnax0b] What are IWs?[/quote:35vnax0b] Intentional walks. It seems to me that we've been burned by approximately the last 487 of them we've called for. OK my math may be a little off, but it's become almost automatic when a 8th place hitter comes up with men on which suxx because: - we've been giving up far too many hits to pitchers - even when you do get the pitcher out you've still done the other team a favor by clearing that spot for them to start the next inning. It's one thing to do that move selectively. It's another to do it almost as a reflex. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:26 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2009 09:28 PM Reed-inspired fail. IWs = IBBs = Intentional walkies! And, yeah, we'll keep doing that, regardless of result. That, and the 5-infielders-with-bases-loaded-after-a-blown-save thing. John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 11 2009 09:27 PM Oeltjen Joe DiMaggio Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:28 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2009 09:33 PM Case in point, instead of having the pitcher lead off here and most likely having this be a 2-out double it's a 1-out double and the odds that we'll get out of this inning unscathed are MUCH lower .. and all because Jerry has no confidence that anyone on the staff can retire the #8 hitter. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:29 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2009 09:30 PM F*ck this guy and his rapist-robber grandpappy. (Can we please stop throwing him fastballs? He can hit the fastball.) Ashie62 Aug 11 2009 09:30 PM Oeltjen Joe Cockmaggio Fman99 Aug 11 2009 09:30 PM Yeah, had I seen IBB's I would've known what that meant. Well, this has been scintillating and all but it's time for me to hit the satchel. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:34 PM ="Fman99":frrxm28s]Yeah, had I seen IBB's I would've known what that meant. Well, this has been scintillating and all but it's time for me to hit the satchel.[/quote:frrxm28s] Nobody likes a quitter. It's folks like you what make collapses. Edgy DC Aug 11 2009 09:38 PM Hey, the Schneid is off the interstate. Ashie62 Aug 11 2009 09:38 PM ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":1r8b1k8t] ="Fman99":1r8b1k8t]Yeah, had I seen IBB's I would've known what that meant. Well, this has been scintillating and all but it's time for me to hit the satchel.[/quote:1r8b1k8t] Nobody likes a quitter. It's folks like you what make collapses.[/quote:1r8b1k8t] When you gotta hit the satchel, you gotta hit the satchel, Ya know whatta I mean? Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:40 PM OK, I give up, why is the Diamondbacks' mascot a lion? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:42 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2009 09:43 PM ="Edgy DC":3jhcp9u8]Hey, the Schneid is off the interstate.[/quote:3jhcp9u8] I'm just glad he didn't get lost running to third on that. It's been a while, no doubt. Good game from Sully. Ashie62 Aug 11 2009 09:42 PM Rattlesnake can kill a lion LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:45 PM ="Frayed Knot":11qyo2lp]OK, I give up, why is the Diamondbacks' mascot a lion?[/quote:11qyo2lp] Peyote and marketing departments don't mix well... or all that creatively. Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:48 PM Oh gee, and an error burns us AGAIN! PiggiesTomatoes Aug 11 2009 09:49 PM Granted, wins are more enjoyable than losses but there's barely an element of entertainment with these fucks. I'm having trouble liking these guys. Hey. look, Luis had his head up his ass (again). LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:53 PM Luis isn't taking his Schaefer loss very well. Valadius Aug 11 2009 09:58 PM Paging Casey Stengel... paging Casey Stengel... nobody here can play this game... LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 10:15 PM Walked leadoff man! metsguyinmichigan Aug 11 2009 10:21 PM Have the players quit on Manuel, or are they just over-matched? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 10:25 PM Those aren't necessarily mutually-exclusive. PiggiesTomatoes Aug 11 2009 10:34 PM Couldn't listen to the DB TV announcers so I switched to WFAN and Howie Rose made a very good point late in the game. That point was that Mets pitching woes have been such that when the team takes the field the only time the players must feel they have a reasonable expectation of winning is when Santana takes the mound. Howie was very direct in referring to The Tall Glass of Water as a tremendous disappointment. Master OTO, Wayne Hagin, next chimes in wondering out loud how things were going to get better. I believe that's accurate and a factor as to why recent play has been so sloppy. I know they're professionals but that must be mentally taxing. Not that I wouldn't give a nut to be so taxed. Valadius Aug 11 2009 10:40 PM We are, for the most part, throwing out guys in the everyday lineup who are either: A) Way past their prime Not ready for the big show C) Not major league starter material with the exception of David Wright, who has magically lost his ability to hit home runs, and Luis Castillo, who has forgotten how to play defense. John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 12 2009 08:27 AM I was so CAHNfident in our inability to win this game I turned it off during the pitching change with the tying run at the plate and went to bed. Woke up not the least bit surprised to find we didn't score then, or for the rest of the evening. With the possible exception of Cory Hotline, they are playing with near total indifference, and a night after Jerry aired them out for that. Edgy DC Aug 12 2009 08:45 AM ="PiggiesTomatoes":1q09tndh]Couldn't listen to the DB TV announcers so I switched to WFAN and Howie Rose made a very good point late in the game. That point was that Mets pitching woes have been such that when the team takes the field the only time the players must feel they have a reasonable expectation of winning is when Santana takes the mound.[/quote:1q09tndh] See I hang this on the batting woes. And I make no exception for Cory. They are overmatched --- a month of Daniel Murphy batting cleanup will move future researchers to do some serious head scratching --- but that should make them more focused on strategemeric thinking, not less. That said, every time Livan starts a game, I think, "Oh, yeah, he's still here," so disengagement has spread to me. I'd really like to talk to Sheffield about why on earth he wants to go down with this ship. Fman99 Aug 12 2009 08:47 AM ="PiggiesTomatoes":2oa4i2aa]Couldn't listen to the DB TV announcers so I switched to WFAN and Howie Rose made a very good point late in the game. That point was that Mets pitching woes have been such that when the team takes the field the only time the players must feel they have a reasonable expectation of winning is when Santana takes the mound. Howie was very direct in referring to The Tall Glass of Water as a tremendous disappointment. Master OTO, Wayne Hagin, next chimes in wondering out loud how things were going to get better. I believe that's accurate and a factor as to why recent play has been so sloppy. I know they're professionals but that must be mentally taxing. Not that I wouldn't give a nut to be so taxed.[/quote:2oa4i2aa] Wayne Hagin:announcing::Mets:playing baseball

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Mmm... yeasty.

Is there an Outback here? There's got to be an Outback here, right? Someone hit a home run there, now.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Cory Sullivan: Future mayor of Buffalo

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Nice catch on Montero, Hotline.

Now learn to throw, and hit, and stuff.

[Frayed Knot]

And I'm guessing this one is because our IWs have been working out so well recently?

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

If only we could have back-to-back series with a couple teams well under .500, then we're really kick some butt.....oh, wait.

[Fman99]

Redding and his big dumb merkin get out of the 6th, or whatever damn inning it is.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

="Frayed Knot":m8ly7988]And I'm guessing this one is because our IWs have been working out so well recently?[/quote:m8ly7988] That's one! One right there! I'm almost disappointed, 'cause it'll only encourage him.

Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:14 PM

="Frayed Knot":28lz9e4s]And I'm guessing this one is because our IWs have been working out so well recently?[/quote:28lz9e4s] Well, I guess this one did work -- so long as we define "working" as rigging it so that the top of the lineup leads off next inning. Fman99 Aug 11 2009 09:18 PM ="Frayed Knot":3kbs49m6]And I'm guessing this one is because our IWs have been working out so well recently?[/quote:3kbs49m6] What are IWs? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:21 PM FRENCHED, AGAIN! And stranded. Fman99 Aug 11 2009 09:23 PM ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]FRENCHED, AGAIN! And stranded. PHPBB FAIL Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:25 PM ="Fman99":35vnax0b] ="Frayed Knot":35vnax0b]And I'm guessing this one is because our IWs have been working out so well recently?[/quote:35vnax0b] What are IWs?[/quote:35vnax0b] Intentional walks. It seems to me that we've been burned by approximately the last 487 of them we've called for. OK my math may be a little off, but it's become almost automatic when a 8th place hitter comes up with men on which suxx because: - we've been giving up far too many hits to pitchers - even when you do get the pitcher out you've still done the other team a favor by clearing that spot for them to start the next inning. It's one thing to do that move selectively. It's another to do it almost as a reflex. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:26 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2009 09:28 PM Reed-inspired fail. IWs = IBBs = Intentional walkies! And, yeah, we'll keep doing that, regardless of result. That, and the 5-infielders-with-bases-loaded-after-a-blown-save thing. John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 11 2009 09:27 PM Oeltjen Joe DiMaggio Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:28 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2009 09:33 PM Case in point, instead of having the pitcher lead off here and most likely having this be a 2-out double it's a 1-out double and the odds that we'll get out of this inning unscathed are MUCH lower .. and all because Jerry has no confidence that anyone on the staff can retire the #8 hitter. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:29 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2009 09:30 PM F*ck this guy and his rapist-robber grandpappy. (Can we please stop throwing him fastballs? He can hit the fastball.) Ashie62 Aug 11 2009 09:30 PM Oeltjen Joe Cockmaggio Fman99 Aug 11 2009 09:30 PM Yeah, had I seen IBB's I would've known what that meant. Well, this has been scintillating and all but it's time for me to hit the satchel. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:34 PM ="Fman99":frrxm28s]Yeah, had I seen IBB's I would've known what that meant. Well, this has been scintillating and all but it's time for me to hit the satchel.[/quote:frrxm28s] Nobody likes a quitter. It's folks like you what make collapses. Edgy DC Aug 11 2009 09:38 PM Hey, the Schneid is off the interstate. Ashie62 Aug 11 2009 09:38 PM ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":1r8b1k8t] ="Fman99":1r8b1k8t]Yeah, had I seen IBB's I would've known what that meant. Well, this has been scintillating and all but it's time for me to hit the satchel.[/quote:1r8b1k8t] Nobody likes a quitter. It's folks like you what make collapses.[/quote:1r8b1k8t] When you gotta hit the satchel, you gotta hit the satchel, Ya know whatta I mean? Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:40 PM OK, I give up, why is the Diamondbacks' mascot a lion? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:42 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2009 09:43 PM ="Edgy DC":3jhcp9u8]Hey, the Schneid is off the interstate.[/quote:3jhcp9u8] I'm just glad he didn't get lost running to third on that. It's been a while, no doubt. Good game from Sully. Ashie62 Aug 11 2009 09:42 PM Rattlesnake can kill a lion LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:45 PM ="Frayed Knot":11qyo2lp]OK, I give up, why is the Diamondbacks' mascot a lion?[/quote:11qyo2lp] Peyote and marketing departments don't mix well... or all that creatively. Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:48 PM Oh gee, and an error burns us AGAIN! PiggiesTomatoes Aug 11 2009 09:49 PM Granted, wins are more enjoyable than losses but there's barely an element of entertainment with these fucks. I'm having trouble liking these guys. Hey. look, Luis had his head up his ass (again). LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:53 PM Luis isn't taking his Schaefer loss very well. Valadius Aug 11 2009 09:58 PM Paging Casey Stengel... paging Casey Stengel... nobody here can play this game... LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 10:15 PM Walked leadoff man! metsguyinmichigan Aug 11 2009 10:21 PM Have the players quit on Manuel, or are they just over-matched? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 10:25 PM Those aren't necessarily mutually-exclusive. PiggiesTomatoes Aug 11 2009 10:34 PM Couldn't listen to the DB TV announcers so I switched to WFAN and Howie Rose made a very good point late in the game. That point was that Mets pitching woes have been such that when the team takes the field the only time the players must feel they have a reasonable expectation of winning is when Santana takes the mound. Howie was very direct in referring to The Tall Glass of Water as a tremendous disappointment. Master OTO, Wayne Hagin, next chimes in wondering out loud how things were going to get better. I believe that's accurate and a factor as to why recent play has been so sloppy. I know they're professionals but that must be mentally taxing. Not that I wouldn't give a nut to be so taxed. Valadius Aug 11 2009 10:40 PM We are, for the most part, throwing out guys in the everyday lineup who are either: A) Way past their prime Not ready for the big show C) Not major league starter material with the exception of David Wright, who has magically lost his ability to hit home runs, and Luis Castillo, who has forgotten how to play defense. John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 12 2009 08:27 AM I was so CAHNfident in our inability to win this game I turned it off during the pitching change with the tying run at the plate and went to bed. Woke up not the least bit surprised to find we didn't score then, or for the rest of the evening. With the possible exception of Cory Hotline, they are playing with near total indifference, and a night after Jerry aired them out for that. Edgy DC Aug 12 2009 08:45 AM ="PiggiesTomatoes":1q09tndh]Couldn't listen to the DB TV announcers so I switched to WFAN and Howie Rose made a very good point late in the game. That point was that Mets pitching woes have been such that when the team takes the field the only time the players must feel they have a reasonable expectation of winning is when Santana takes the mound.[/quote:1q09tndh] See I hang this on the batting woes. And I make no exception for Cory. They are overmatched --- a month of Daniel Murphy batting cleanup will move future researchers to do some serious head scratching --- but that should make them more focused on strategemeric thinking, not less. That said, every time Livan starts a game, I think, "Oh, yeah, he's still here," so disengagement has spread to me. I'd really like to talk to Sheffield about why on earth he wants to go down with this ship. Fman99 Aug 12 2009 08:47 AM ="PiggiesTomatoes":2oa4i2aa]Couldn't listen to the DB TV announcers so I switched to WFAN and Howie Rose made a very good point late in the game. That point was that Mets pitching woes have been such that when the team takes the field the only time the players must feel they have a reasonable expectation of winning is when Santana takes the mound. Howie was very direct in referring to The Tall Glass of Water as a tremendous disappointment. Master OTO, Wayne Hagin, next chimes in wondering out loud how things were going to get better. I believe that's accurate and a factor as to why recent play has been so sloppy. I know they're professionals but that must be mentally taxing. Not that I wouldn't give a nut to be so taxed.[/quote:2oa4i2aa] Wayne Hagin:announcing::Mets:playing baseball

[Frayed Knot]

="Frayed Knot":28lz9e4s]And I'm guessing this one is because our IWs have been working out so well recently?[/quote:28lz9e4s] Well, I guess this one did work -- so long as we define "working" as rigging it so that the top of the lineup leads off next inning.

Fman99 Aug 11 2009 09:18 PM

="Frayed Knot":3kbs49m6]And I'm guessing this one is because our IWs have been working out so well recently?[/quote:3kbs49m6] What are IWs? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:21 PM FRENCHED, AGAIN! And stranded. Fman99 Aug 11 2009 09:23 PM ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]FRENCHED, AGAIN! And stranded. PHPBB FAIL Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:25 PM ="Fman99":35vnax0b] ="Frayed Knot":35vnax0b]And I'm guessing this one is because our IWs have been working out so well recently?[/quote:35vnax0b] What are IWs?[/quote:35vnax0b] Intentional walks. It seems to me that we've been burned by approximately the last 487 of them we've called for. OK my math may be a little off, but it's become almost automatic when a 8th place hitter comes up with men on which suxx because: - we've been giving up far too many hits to pitchers - even when you do get the pitcher out you've still done the other team a favor by clearing that spot for them to start the next inning. It's one thing to do that move selectively. It's another to do it almost as a reflex. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:26 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2009 09:28 PM Reed-inspired fail. IWs = IBBs = Intentional walkies! And, yeah, we'll keep doing that, regardless of result. That, and the 5-infielders-with-bases-loaded-after-a-blown-save thing. John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 11 2009 09:27 PM Oeltjen Joe DiMaggio Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:28 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2009 09:33 PM Case in point, instead of having the pitcher lead off here and most likely having this be a 2-out double it's a 1-out double and the odds that we'll get out of this inning unscathed are MUCH lower .. and all because Jerry has no confidence that anyone on the staff can retire the #8 hitter. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:29 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2009 09:30 PM F*ck this guy and his rapist-robber grandpappy. (Can we please stop throwing him fastballs? He can hit the fastball.) Ashie62 Aug 11 2009 09:30 PM Oeltjen Joe Cockmaggio Fman99 Aug 11 2009 09:30 PM Yeah, had I seen IBB's I would've known what that meant. Well, this has been scintillating and all but it's time for me to hit the satchel. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:34 PM ="Fman99":frrxm28s]Yeah, had I seen IBB's I would've known what that meant. Well, this has been scintillating and all but it's time for me to hit the satchel.[/quote:frrxm28s] Nobody likes a quitter. It's folks like you what make collapses. Edgy DC Aug 11 2009 09:38 PM Hey, the Schneid is off the interstate. Ashie62 Aug 11 2009 09:38 PM ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":1r8b1k8t] ="Fman99":1r8b1k8t]Yeah, had I seen IBB's I would've known what that meant. Well, this has been scintillating and all but it's time for me to hit the satchel.[/quote:1r8b1k8t] Nobody likes a quitter. It's folks like you what make collapses.[/quote:1r8b1k8t] When you gotta hit the satchel, you gotta hit the satchel, Ya know whatta I mean? Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:40 PM OK, I give up, why is the Diamondbacks' mascot a lion? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:42 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2009 09:43 PM ="Edgy DC":3jhcp9u8]Hey, the Schneid is off the interstate.[/quote:3jhcp9u8] I'm just glad he didn't get lost running to third on that. It's been a while, no doubt. Good game from Sully. Ashie62 Aug 11 2009 09:42 PM Rattlesnake can kill a lion LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:45 PM ="Frayed Knot":11qyo2lp]OK, I give up, why is the Diamondbacks' mascot a lion?[/quote:11qyo2lp] Peyote and marketing departments don't mix well... or all that creatively. Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:48 PM Oh gee, and an error burns us AGAIN! PiggiesTomatoes Aug 11 2009 09:49 PM Granted, wins are more enjoyable than losses but there's barely an element of entertainment with these fucks. I'm having trouble liking these guys. Hey. look, Luis had his head up his ass (again). LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:53 PM Luis isn't taking his Schaefer loss very well. Valadius Aug 11 2009 09:58 PM Paging Casey Stengel... paging Casey Stengel... nobody here can play this game... LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 10:15 PM Walked leadoff man! metsguyinmichigan Aug 11 2009 10:21 PM Have the players quit on Manuel, or are they just over-matched? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 10:25 PM Those aren't necessarily mutually-exclusive. PiggiesTomatoes Aug 11 2009 10:34 PM Couldn't listen to the DB TV announcers so I switched to WFAN and Howie Rose made a very good point late in the game. That point was that Mets pitching woes have been such that when the team takes the field the only time the players must feel they have a reasonable expectation of winning is when Santana takes the mound. Howie was very direct in referring to The Tall Glass of Water as a tremendous disappointment. Master OTO, Wayne Hagin, next chimes in wondering out loud how things were going to get better. I believe that's accurate and a factor as to why recent play has been so sloppy. I know they're professionals but that must be mentally taxing. Not that I wouldn't give a nut to be so taxed. Valadius Aug 11 2009 10:40 PM We are, for the most part, throwing out guys in the everyday lineup who are either: A) Way past their prime Not ready for the big show C) Not major league starter material with the exception of David Wright, who has magically lost his ability to hit home runs, and Luis Castillo, who has forgotten how to play defense. John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 12 2009 08:27 AM I was so CAHNfident in our inability to win this game I turned it off during the pitching change with the tying run at the plate and went to bed. Woke up not the least bit surprised to find we didn't score then, or for the rest of the evening. With the possible exception of Cory Hotline, they are playing with near total indifference, and a night after Jerry aired them out for that. Edgy DC Aug 12 2009 08:45 AM ="PiggiesTomatoes":1q09tndh]Couldn't listen to the DB TV announcers so I switched to WFAN and Howie Rose made a very good point late in the game. That point was that Mets pitching woes have been such that when the team takes the field the only time the players must feel they have a reasonable expectation of winning is when Santana takes the mound.[/quote:1q09tndh] See I hang this on the batting woes. And I make no exception for Cory. They are overmatched --- a month of Daniel Murphy batting cleanup will move future researchers to do some serious head scratching --- but that should make them more focused on strategemeric thinking, not less. That said, every time Livan starts a game, I think, "Oh, yeah, he's still here," so disengagement has spread to me. I'd really like to talk to Sheffield about why on earth he wants to go down with this ship. Fman99 Aug 12 2009 08:47 AM ="PiggiesTomatoes":2oa4i2aa]Couldn't listen to the DB TV announcers so I switched to WFAN and Howie Rose made a very good point late in the game. That point was that Mets pitching woes have been such that when the team takes the field the only time the players must feel they have a reasonable expectation of winning is when Santana takes the mound. Howie was very direct in referring to The Tall Glass of Water as a tremendous disappointment. Master OTO, Wayne Hagin, next chimes in wondering out loud how things were going to get better. I believe that's accurate and a factor as to why recent play has been so sloppy. I know they're professionals but that must be mentally taxing. Not that I wouldn't give a nut to be so taxed.[/quote:2oa4i2aa] Wayne Hagin:announcing::Mets:playing baseball

[Fman99]

="Frayed Knot":3kbs49m6]And I'm guessing this one is because our IWs have been working out so well recently?[/quote:3kbs49m6] What are IWs?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:21 PM

FRENCHED, AGAIN! And stranded.

Fman99 Aug 11 2009 09:23 PM

="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]FRENCHED, AGAIN! And stranded. PHPBB FAIL

Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:25 PM

="Fman99":35vnax0b] ="Frayed Knot":35vnax0b]And I'm guessing this one is because our IWs have been working out so well recently?[/quote:35vnax0b] What are IWs?[/quote:35vnax0b] Intentional walks. It seems to me that we've been burned by approximately the last 487 of them we've called for. OK my math may be a little off, but it's become almost automatic when a 8th place hitter comes up with men on which suxx because: - we've been giving up far too many hits to pitchers - even when you do get the pitcher out you've still done the other team a favor by clearing that spot for them to start the next inning. It's one thing to do that move selectively. It's another to do it almost as a reflex. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:26 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2009 09:28 PM Reed-inspired fail. IWs = IBBs = Intentional walkies! And, yeah, we'll keep doing that, regardless of result. That, and the 5-infielders-with-bases-loaded-after-a-blown-save thing. John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 11 2009 09:27 PM Oeltjen Joe DiMaggio Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:28 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2009 09:33 PM Case in point, instead of having the pitcher lead off here and most likely having this be a 2-out double it's a 1-out double and the odds that we'll get out of this inning unscathed are MUCH lower .. and all because Jerry has no confidence that anyone on the staff can retire the #8 hitter. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:29 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2009 09:30 PM F*ck this guy and his rapist-robber grandpappy. (Can we please stop throwing him fastballs? He can hit the fastball.) Ashie62 Aug 11 2009 09:30 PM Oeltjen Joe Cockmaggio Fman99 Aug 11 2009 09:30 PM Yeah, had I seen IBB's I would've known what that meant. Well, this has been scintillating and all but it's time for me to hit the satchel. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:34 PM ="Fman99":frrxm28s]Yeah, had I seen IBB's I would've known what that meant. Well, this has been scintillating and all but it's time for me to hit the satchel.[/quote:frrxm28s] Nobody likes a quitter. It's folks like you what make collapses. Edgy DC Aug 11 2009 09:38 PM Hey, the Schneid is off the interstate. Ashie62 Aug 11 2009 09:38 PM ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":1r8b1k8t] ="Fman99":1r8b1k8t]Yeah, had I seen IBB's I would've known what that meant. Well, this has been scintillating and all but it's time for me to hit the satchel.[/quote:1r8b1k8t] Nobody likes a quitter. It's folks like you what make collapses.[/quote:1r8b1k8t] When you gotta hit the satchel, you gotta hit the satchel, Ya know whatta I mean? Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:40 PM OK, I give up, why is the Diamondbacks' mascot a lion? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:42 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2009 09:43 PM ="Edgy DC":3jhcp9u8]Hey, the Schneid is off the interstate.[/quote:3jhcp9u8] I'm just glad he didn't get lost running to third on that. It's been a while, no doubt. Good game from Sully. Ashie62 Aug 11 2009 09:42 PM Rattlesnake can kill a lion LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:45 PM ="Frayed Knot":11qyo2lp]OK, I give up, why is the Diamondbacks' mascot a lion?[/quote:11qyo2lp] Peyote and marketing departments don't mix well... or all that creatively. Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:48 PM Oh gee, and an error burns us AGAIN! PiggiesTomatoes Aug 11 2009 09:49 PM Granted, wins are more enjoyable than losses but there's barely an element of entertainment with these fucks. I'm having trouble liking these guys. Hey. look, Luis had his head up his ass (again). LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:53 PM Luis isn't taking his Schaefer loss very well. Valadius Aug 11 2009 09:58 PM Paging Casey Stengel... paging Casey Stengel... nobody here can play this game... LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 10:15 PM Walked leadoff man! metsguyinmichigan Aug 11 2009 10:21 PM Have the players quit on Manuel, or are they just over-matched? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 10:25 PM Those aren't necessarily mutually-exclusive. PiggiesTomatoes Aug 11 2009 10:34 PM Couldn't listen to the DB TV announcers so I switched to WFAN and Howie Rose made a very good point late in the game. That point was that Mets pitching woes have been such that when the team takes the field the only time the players must feel they have a reasonable expectation of winning is when Santana takes the mound. Howie was very direct in referring to The Tall Glass of Water as a tremendous disappointment. Master OTO, Wayne Hagin, next chimes in wondering out loud how things were going to get better. I believe that's accurate and a factor as to why recent play has been so sloppy. I know they're professionals but that must be mentally taxing. Not that I wouldn't give a nut to be so taxed. Valadius Aug 11 2009 10:40 PM We are, for the most part, throwing out guys in the everyday lineup who are either: A) Way past their prime Not ready for the big show C) Not major league starter material with the exception of David Wright, who has magically lost his ability to hit home runs, and Luis Castillo, who has forgotten how to play defense. John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 12 2009 08:27 AM I was so CAHNfident in our inability to win this game I turned it off during the pitching change with the tying run at the plate and went to bed. Woke up not the least bit surprised to find we didn't score then, or for the rest of the evening. With the possible exception of Cory Hotline, they are playing with near total indifference, and a night after Jerry aired them out for that. Edgy DC Aug 12 2009 08:45 AM ="PiggiesTomatoes":1q09tndh]Couldn't listen to the DB TV announcers so I switched to WFAN and Howie Rose made a very good point late in the game. That point was that Mets pitching woes have been such that when the team takes the field the only time the players must feel they have a reasonable expectation of winning is when Santana takes the mound.[/quote:1q09tndh] See I hang this on the batting woes. And I make no exception for Cory. They are overmatched --- a month of Daniel Murphy batting cleanup will move future researchers to do some serious head scratching --- but that should make them more focused on strategemeric thinking, not less. That said, every time Livan starts a game, I think, "Oh, yeah, he's still here," so disengagement has spread to me. I'd really like to talk to Sheffield about why on earth he wants to go down with this ship. Fman99 Aug 12 2009 08:47 AM ="PiggiesTomatoes":2oa4i2aa]Couldn't listen to the DB TV announcers so I switched to WFAN and Howie Rose made a very good point late in the game. That point was that Mets pitching woes have been such that when the team takes the field the only time the players must feel they have a reasonable expectation of winning is when Santana takes the mound. Howie was very direct in referring to The Tall Glass of Water as a tremendous disappointment. Master OTO, Wayne Hagin, next chimes in wondering out loud how things were going to get better. I believe that's accurate and a factor as to why recent play has been so sloppy. I know they're professionals but that must be mentally taxing. Not that I wouldn't give a nut to be so taxed.[/quote:2oa4i2aa] Wayne Hagin:announcing::Mets:playing baseball

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

FRENCHED, AGAIN!



And stranded.

[Fman99]

="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]FRENCHED, AGAIN! And stranded.

PHPBB FAIL

[Frayed Knot]

="Fman99":35vnax0b] ="Frayed Knot":35vnax0b]And I'm guessing this one is because our IWs have been working out so well recently?[/quote:35vnax0b] What are IWs?[/quote:35vnax0b] Intentional walks. It seems to me that we've been burned by approximately the last 487 of them we've called for. OK my math may be a little off, but it's become almost automatic when a 8th place hitter comes up with men on which suxx because: - we've been giving up far too many hits to pitchers - even when you do get the pitcher out you've still done the other team a favor by clearing that spot for them to start the next inning. It's one thing to do that move selectively. It's another to do it almost as a reflex. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:26 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2009 09:28 PM Reed-inspired fail. IWs = IBBs = Intentional walkies! And, yeah, we'll keep doing that, regardless of result. That, and the 5-infielders-with-bases-loaded-after-a-blown-save thing. John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 11 2009 09:27 PM Oeltjen Joe DiMaggio Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:28 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2009 09:33 PM Case in point, instead of having the pitcher lead off here and most likely having this be a 2-out double it's a 1-out double and the odds that we'll get out of this inning unscathed are MUCH lower .. and all because Jerry has no confidence that anyone on the staff can retire the #8 hitter. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:29 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2009 09:30 PM F*ck this guy and his rapist-robber grandpappy. (Can we please stop throwing him fastballs? He can hit the fastball.) Ashie62 Aug 11 2009 09:30 PM Oeltjen Joe Cockmaggio Fman99 Aug 11 2009 09:30 PM Yeah, had I seen IBB's I would've known what that meant. Well, this has been scintillating and all but it's time for me to hit the satchel. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:34 PM ="Fman99":frrxm28s]Yeah, had I seen IBB's I would've known what that meant. Well, this has been scintillating and all but it's time for me to hit the satchel.[/quote:frrxm28s] Nobody likes a quitter. It's folks like you what make collapses. Edgy DC Aug 11 2009 09:38 PM Hey, the Schneid is off the interstate. Ashie62 Aug 11 2009 09:38 PM ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":1r8b1k8t] ="Fman99":1r8b1k8t]Yeah, had I seen IBB's I would've known what that meant. Well, this has been scintillating and all but it's time for me to hit the satchel.[/quote:1r8b1k8t] Nobody likes a quitter. It's folks like you what make collapses.[/quote:1r8b1k8t] When you gotta hit the satchel, you gotta hit the satchel, Ya know whatta I mean? Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:40 PM OK, I give up, why is the Diamondbacks' mascot a lion? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:42 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2009 09:43 PM ="Edgy DC":3jhcp9u8]Hey, the Schneid is off the interstate.[/quote:3jhcp9u8] I'm just glad he didn't get lost running to third on that. It's been a while, no doubt. Good game from Sully. Ashie62 Aug 11 2009 09:42 PM Rattlesnake can kill a lion LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:45 PM ="Frayed Knot":11qyo2lp]OK, I give up, why is the Diamondbacks' mascot a lion?[/quote:11qyo2lp] Peyote and marketing departments don't mix well... or all that creatively. Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:48 PM Oh gee, and an error burns us AGAIN! PiggiesTomatoes Aug 11 2009 09:49 PM Granted, wins are more enjoyable than losses but there's barely an element of entertainment with these fucks. I'm having trouble liking these guys. Hey. look, Luis had his head up his ass (again). LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:53 PM Luis isn't taking his Schaefer loss very well. Valadius Aug 11 2009 09:58 PM Paging Casey Stengel... paging Casey Stengel... nobody here can play this game... LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 10:15 PM Walked leadoff man! metsguyinmichigan Aug 11 2009 10:21 PM Have the players quit on Manuel, or are they just over-matched? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 10:25 PM Those aren't necessarily mutually-exclusive. PiggiesTomatoes Aug 11 2009 10:34 PM Couldn't listen to the DB TV announcers so I switched to WFAN and Howie Rose made a very good point late in the game. That point was that Mets pitching woes have been such that when the team takes the field the only time the players must feel they have a reasonable expectation of winning is when Santana takes the mound. Howie was very direct in referring to The Tall Glass of Water as a tremendous disappointment. Master OTO, Wayne Hagin, next chimes in wondering out loud how things were going to get better. I believe that's accurate and a factor as to why recent play has been so sloppy. I know they're professionals but that must be mentally taxing. Not that I wouldn't give a nut to be so taxed. Valadius Aug 11 2009 10:40 PM We are, for the most part, throwing out guys in the everyday lineup who are either: A) Way past their prime Not ready for the big show C) Not major league starter material with the exception of David Wright, who has magically lost his ability to hit home runs, and Luis Castillo, who has forgotten how to play defense. John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 12 2009 08:27 AM I was so CAHNfident in our inability to win this game I turned it off during the pitching change with the tying run at the plate and went to bed. Woke up not the least bit surprised to find we didn't score then, or for the rest of the evening. With the possible exception of Cory Hotline, they are playing with near total indifference, and a night after Jerry aired them out for that. Edgy DC Aug 12 2009 08:45 AM ="PiggiesTomatoes":1q09tndh]Couldn't listen to the DB TV announcers so I switched to WFAN and Howie Rose made a very good point late in the game. That point was that Mets pitching woes have been such that when the team takes the field the only time the players must feel they have a reasonable expectation of winning is when Santana takes the mound.[/quote:1q09tndh] See I hang this on the batting woes. And I make no exception for Cory. They are overmatched --- a month of Daniel Murphy batting cleanup will move future researchers to do some serious head scratching --- but that should make them more focused on strategemeric thinking, not less. That said, every time Livan starts a game, I think, "Oh, yeah, he's still here," so disengagement has spread to me. I'd really like to talk to Sheffield about why on earth he wants to go down with this ship. Fman99 Aug 12 2009 08:47 AM ="PiggiesTomatoes":2oa4i2aa]Couldn't listen to the DB TV announcers so I switched to WFAN and Howie Rose made a very good point late in the game. That point was that Mets pitching woes have been such that when the team takes the field the only time the players must feel they have a reasonable expectation of winning is when Santana takes the mound. Howie was very direct in referring to The Tall Glass of Water as a tremendous disappointment. Master OTO, Wayne Hagin, next chimes in wondering out loud how things were going to get better. I believe that's accurate and a factor as to why recent play has been so sloppy. I know they're professionals but that must be mentally taxing. Not that I wouldn't give a nut to be so taxed.[/quote:2oa4i2aa] Wayne Hagin:announcing::Mets:playing baseball

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Reed-inspired fail.

IWs = IBBs = Intentional walkies!

And, yeah, we'll keep doing that, regardless of result. That, and the 5-infielders-with-bases-loaded-after-a-blown-save thing.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Oeltjen Joe DiMaggio

[Frayed Knot]

Case in point, instead of having the pitcher lead off here and most likely having this be a 2-out double it's a 1-out double and the odds that we'll get out of this inning unscathed are MUCH lower .. and all because Jerry has no confidence that anyone on the staff can retire the #8 hitter.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

F*ck this guy and his rapist-robber grandpappy.

(Can we please stop throwing him fastballs? He can hit the fastball.)

[ashie62]

Oeltjen Joe Cockmaggio

[Fman99]

Yeah, had I seen IBB's I would've known what that meant.

Well, this has been scintillating and all but it's time for me to hit the satchel.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

="Fman99":frrxm28s]Yeah, had I seen IBB's I would've known what that meant. Well, this has been scintillating and all but it's time for me to hit the satchel.[/quote:frrxm28s] Nobody likes a quitter. It's folks like you what make collapses.

Edgy DC Aug 11 2009 09:38 PM

Hey, the Schneid is off the interstate.

Ashie62 Aug 11 2009 09:38 PM

="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":1r8b1k8t] ="Fman99":1r8b1k8t]Yeah, had I seen IBB's I would've known what that meant. Well, this has been scintillating and all but it's time for me to hit the satchel.[/quote:1r8b1k8t] Nobody likes a quitter. It's folks like you what make collapses.[/quote:1r8b1k8t] When you gotta hit the satchel, you gotta hit the satchel, Ya know whatta I mean? Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:40 PM OK, I give up, why is the Diamondbacks' mascot a lion? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:42 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2009 09:43 PM ="Edgy DC":3jhcp9u8]Hey, the Schneid is off the interstate.[/quote:3jhcp9u8] I'm just glad he didn't get lost running to third on that. It's been a while, no doubt. Good game from Sully. Ashie62 Aug 11 2009 09:42 PM Rattlesnake can kill a lion LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:45 PM ="Frayed Knot":11qyo2lp]OK, I give up, why is the Diamondbacks' mascot a lion?[/quote:11qyo2lp] Peyote and marketing departments don't mix well... or all that creatively. Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:48 PM Oh gee, and an error burns us AGAIN! PiggiesTomatoes Aug 11 2009 09:49 PM Granted, wins are more enjoyable than losses but there's barely an element of entertainment with these fucks. I'm having trouble liking these guys. Hey. look, Luis had his head up his ass (again). LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:53 PM Luis isn't taking his Schaefer loss very well. Valadius Aug 11 2009 09:58 PM Paging Casey Stengel... paging Casey Stengel... nobody here can play this game... LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 10:15 PM Walked leadoff man! metsguyinmichigan Aug 11 2009 10:21 PM Have the players quit on Manuel, or are they just over-matched? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 10:25 PM Those aren't necessarily mutually-exclusive. PiggiesTomatoes Aug 11 2009 10:34 PM Couldn't listen to the DB TV announcers so I switched to WFAN and Howie Rose made a very good point late in the game. That point was that Mets pitching woes have been such that when the team takes the field the only time the players must feel they have a reasonable expectation of winning is when Santana takes the mound. Howie was very direct in referring to The Tall Glass of Water as a tremendous disappointment. Master OTO, Wayne Hagin, next chimes in wondering out loud how things were going to get better. I believe that's accurate and a factor as to why recent play has been so sloppy. I know they're professionals but that must be mentally taxing. Not that I wouldn't give a nut to be so taxed. Valadius Aug 11 2009 10:40 PM We are, for the most part, throwing out guys in the everyday lineup who are either: A) Way past their prime Not ready for the big show C) Not major league starter material with the exception of David Wright, who has magically lost his ability to hit home runs, and Luis Castillo, who has forgotten how to play defense. John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 12 2009 08:27 AM I was so CAHNfident in our inability to win this game I turned it off during the pitching change with the tying run at the plate and went to bed. Woke up not the least bit surprised to find we didn't score then, or for the rest of the evening. With the possible exception of Cory Hotline, they are playing with near total indifference, and a night after Jerry aired them out for that. Edgy DC Aug 12 2009 08:45 AM ="PiggiesTomatoes":1q09tndh]Couldn't listen to the DB TV announcers so I switched to WFAN and Howie Rose made a very good point late in the game. That point was that Mets pitching woes have been such that when the team takes the field the only time the players must feel they have a reasonable expectation of winning is when Santana takes the mound.[/quote:1q09tndh] See I hang this on the batting woes. And I make no exception for Cory. They are overmatched --- a month of Daniel Murphy batting cleanup will move future researchers to do some serious head scratching --- but that should make them more focused on strategemeric thinking, not less. That said, every time Livan starts a game, I think, "Oh, yeah, he's still here," so disengagement has spread to me. I'd really like to talk to Sheffield about why on earth he wants to go down with this ship. Fman99 Aug 12 2009 08:47 AM ="PiggiesTomatoes":2oa4i2aa]Couldn't listen to the DB TV announcers so I switched to WFAN and Howie Rose made a very good point late in the game. That point was that Mets pitching woes have been such that when the team takes the field the only time the players must feel they have a reasonable expectation of winning is when Santana takes the mound. Howie was very direct in referring to The Tall Glass of Water as a tremendous disappointment. Master OTO, Wayne Hagin, next chimes in wondering out loud how things were going to get better. I believe that's accurate and a factor as to why recent play has been so sloppy. I know they're professionals but that must be mentally taxing. Not that I wouldn't give a nut to be so taxed.[/quote:2oa4i2aa] Wayne Hagin:announcing::Mets:playing baseball

[Guest Edgy DC]

Hey, the Schneid is off the interstate.

[ashie62]

="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":1r8b1k8t] ="Fman99":1r8b1k8t]Yeah, had I seen IBB's I would've known what that meant. Well, this has been scintillating and all but it's time for me to hit the satchel.[/quote:1r8b1k8t] Nobody likes a quitter. It's folks like you what make collapses.[/quote:1r8b1k8t] When you gotta hit the satchel, you gotta hit the satchel, Ya know whatta I mean? Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:40 PM OK, I give up, why is the Diamondbacks' mascot a lion? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:42 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2009 09:43 PM ="Edgy DC":3jhcp9u8]Hey, the Schneid is off the interstate.[/quote:3jhcp9u8] I'm just glad he didn't get lost running to third on that. It's been a while, no doubt. Good game from Sully. Ashie62 Aug 11 2009 09:42 PM Rattlesnake can kill a lion LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:45 PM ="Frayed Knot":11qyo2lp]OK, I give up, why is the Diamondbacks' mascot a lion?[/quote:11qyo2lp] Peyote and marketing departments don't mix well... or all that creatively. Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:48 PM Oh gee, and an error burns us AGAIN! PiggiesTomatoes Aug 11 2009 09:49 PM Granted, wins are more enjoyable than losses but there's barely an element of entertainment with these fucks. I'm having trouble liking these guys. Hey. look, Luis had his head up his ass (again). LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:53 PM Luis isn't taking his Schaefer loss very well. Valadius Aug 11 2009 09:58 PM Paging Casey Stengel... paging Casey Stengel... nobody here can play this game... LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 10:15 PM Walked leadoff man! metsguyinmichigan Aug 11 2009 10:21 PM Have the players quit on Manuel, or are they just over-matched? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 10:25 PM Those aren't necessarily mutually-exclusive. PiggiesTomatoes Aug 11 2009 10:34 PM Couldn't listen to the DB TV announcers so I switched to WFAN and Howie Rose made a very good point late in the game. That point was that Mets pitching woes have been such that when the team takes the field the only time the players must feel they have a reasonable expectation of winning is when Santana takes the mound. Howie was very direct in referring to The Tall Glass of Water as a tremendous disappointment. Master OTO, Wayne Hagin, next chimes in wondering out loud how things were going to get better. I believe that's accurate and a factor as to why recent play has been so sloppy. I know they're professionals but that must be mentally taxing. Not that I wouldn't give a nut to be so taxed. Valadius Aug 11 2009 10:40 PM We are, for the most part, throwing out guys in the everyday lineup who are either: A) Way past their prime Not ready for the big show C) Not major league starter material with the exception of David Wright, who has magically lost his ability to hit home runs, and Luis Castillo, who has forgotten how to play defense. John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 12 2009 08:27 AM I was so CAHNfident in our inability to win this game I turned it off during the pitching change with the tying run at the plate and went to bed. Woke up not the least bit surprised to find we didn't score then, or for the rest of the evening. With the possible exception of Cory Hotline, they are playing with near total indifference, and a night after Jerry aired them out for that. Edgy DC Aug 12 2009 08:45 AM ="PiggiesTomatoes":1q09tndh]Couldn't listen to the DB TV announcers so I switched to WFAN and Howie Rose made a very good point late in the game. That point was that Mets pitching woes have been such that when the team takes the field the only time the players must feel they have a reasonable expectation of winning is when Santana takes the mound.[/quote:1q09tndh] See I hang this on the batting woes. And I make no exception for Cory. They are overmatched --- a month of Daniel Murphy batting cleanup will move future researchers to do some serious head scratching --- but that should make them more focused on strategemeric thinking, not less. That said, every time Livan starts a game, I think, "Oh, yeah, he's still here," so disengagement has spread to me. I'd really like to talk to Sheffield about why on earth he wants to go down with this ship. Fman99 Aug 12 2009 08:47 AM ="PiggiesTomatoes":2oa4i2aa]Couldn't listen to the DB TV announcers so I switched to WFAN and Howie Rose made a very good point late in the game. That point was that Mets pitching woes have been such that when the team takes the field the only time the players must feel they have a reasonable expectation of winning is when Santana takes the mound. Howie was very direct in referring to The Tall Glass of Water as a tremendous disappointment. Master OTO, Wayne Hagin, next chimes in wondering out loud how things were going to get better. I believe that's accurate and a factor as to why recent play has been so sloppy. I know they're professionals but that must be mentally taxing. Not that I wouldn't give a nut to be so taxed.[/quote:2oa4i2aa] Wayne Hagin:announcing::Mets:playing baseball

[Frayed Knot]

OK, I give up, why is the Diamondbacks' mascot a lion?

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

="Edgy DC":3jhcp9u8]Hey, the Schneid is off the interstate.[/quote:3jhcp9u8] I'm just glad he didn't get lost running to third on that. It's been a while, no doubt. Good game from Sully.

Ashie62 Aug 11 2009 09:42 PM

Rattlesnake can kill a lion

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:45 PM

="Frayed Knot":11qyo2lp]OK, I give up, why is the Diamondbacks' mascot a lion?[/quote:11qyo2lp] Peyote and marketing departments don't mix well... or all that creatively. Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:48 PM Oh gee, and an error burns us AGAIN! PiggiesTomatoes Aug 11 2009 09:49 PM Granted, wins are more enjoyable than losses but there's barely an element of entertainment with these fucks. I'm having trouble liking these guys. Hey. look, Luis had his head up his ass (again). LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:53 PM Luis isn't taking his Schaefer loss very well. Valadius Aug 11 2009 09:58 PM Paging Casey Stengel... paging Casey Stengel... nobody here can play this game... LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 10:15 PM Walked leadoff man! metsguyinmichigan Aug 11 2009 10:21 PM Have the players quit on Manuel, or are they just over-matched? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 10:25 PM Those aren't necessarily mutually-exclusive. PiggiesTomatoes Aug 11 2009 10:34 PM Couldn't listen to the DB TV announcers so I switched to WFAN and Howie Rose made a very good point late in the game. That point was that Mets pitching woes have been such that when the team takes the field the only time the players must feel they have a reasonable expectation of winning is when Santana takes the mound. Howie was very direct in referring to The Tall Glass of Water as a tremendous disappointment. Master OTO, Wayne Hagin, next chimes in wondering out loud how things were going to get better. I believe that's accurate and a factor as to why recent play has been so sloppy. I know they're professionals but that must be mentally taxing. Not that I wouldn't give a nut to be so taxed. Valadius Aug 11 2009 10:40 PM We are, for the most part, throwing out guys in the everyday lineup who are either: A) Way past their prime Not ready for the big show C) Not major league starter material with the exception of David Wright, who has magically lost his ability to hit home runs, and Luis Castillo, who has forgotten how to play defense. John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 12 2009 08:27 AM I was so CAHNfident in our inability to win this game I turned it off during the pitching change with the tying run at the plate and went to bed. Woke up not the least bit surprised to find we didn't score then, or for the rest of the evening. With the possible exception of Cory Hotline, they are playing with near total indifference, and a night after Jerry aired them out for that. Edgy DC Aug 12 2009 08:45 AM ="PiggiesTomatoes":1q09tndh]Couldn't listen to the DB TV announcers so I switched to WFAN and Howie Rose made a very good point late in the game. That point was that Mets pitching woes have been such that when the team takes the field the only time the players must feel they have a reasonable expectation of winning is when Santana takes the mound.[/quote:1q09tndh] See I hang this on the batting woes. And I make no exception for Cory. They are overmatched --- a month of Daniel Murphy batting cleanup will move future researchers to do some serious head scratching --- but that should make them more focused on strategemeric thinking, not less. That said, every time Livan starts a game, I think, "Oh, yeah, he's still here," so disengagement has spread to me. I'd really like to talk to Sheffield about why on earth he wants to go down with this ship. Fman99 Aug 12 2009 08:47 AM ="PiggiesTomatoes":2oa4i2aa]Couldn't listen to the DB TV announcers so I switched to WFAN and Howie Rose made a very good point late in the game. That point was that Mets pitching woes have been such that when the team takes the field the only time the players must feel they have a reasonable expectation of winning is when Santana takes the mound. Howie was very direct in referring to The Tall Glass of Water as a tremendous disappointment. Master OTO, Wayne Hagin, next chimes in wondering out loud how things were going to get better. I believe that's accurate and a factor as to why recent play has been so sloppy. I know they're professionals but that must be mentally taxing. Not that I wouldn't give a nut to be so taxed.[/quote:2oa4i2aa] Wayne Hagin:announcing::Mets:playing baseball

[ashie62]

Rattlesnake can kill a lion

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

="Frayed Knot":11qyo2lp]OK, I give up, why is the Diamondbacks' mascot a lion?[/quote:11qyo2lp] Peyote and marketing departments don't mix well... or all that creatively.

Frayed Knot Aug 11 2009 09:48 PM

Oh gee, and an error burns us AGAIN!

PiggiesTomatoes Aug 11 2009 09:49 PM

Granted, wins are more enjoyable than losses but there's barely an element of entertainment with these fucks. I'm having trouble liking these guys. Hey. look, Luis had his head up his ass (again).

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 09:53 PM

Luis isn't taking his Schaefer loss very well.

Valadius Aug 11 2009 09:58 PM

Paging Casey Stengel... paging Casey Stengel... nobody here can play this game...

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 10:15 PM

Walked leadoff man!

metsguyinmichigan Aug 11 2009 10:21 PM

Have the players quit on Manuel, or are they just over-matched?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2009 10:25 PM

Those aren't necessarily mutually-exclusive.

PiggiesTomatoes Aug 11 2009 10:34 PM

Couldn't listen to the DB TV announcers so I switched to WFAN and Howie Rose made a very good point late in the game. That point was that Mets pitching woes have been such that when the team takes the field the only time the players must feel they have a reasonable expectation of winning is when Santana takes the mound. Howie was very direct in referring to The Tall Glass of Water as a tremendous disappointment. Master OTO, Wayne Hagin, next chimes in wondering out loud how things were going to get better. I believe that's accurate and a factor as to why recent play has been so sloppy. I know they're professionals but that must be mentally taxing. Not that I wouldn't give a nut to be so taxed.

Valadius Aug 11 2009 10:40 PM

We are, for the most part, throwing out guys in the everyday lineup who are either: A) Way past their prime Not ready for the big show C) Not major league starter material with the exception of David Wright, who has magically lost his ability to hit home runs, and Luis Castillo, who has forgotten how to play defense.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 12 2009 08:27 AM

I was so CAHNfident in our inability to win this game I turned it off during the pitching change with the tying run at the plate and went to bed. Woke up not the least bit surprised to find we didn't score then, or for the rest of the evening. With the possible exception of Cory Hotline, they are playing with near total indifference, and a night after Jerry aired them out for that.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2009 08:45 AM

="PiggiesTomatoes":1q09tndh]Couldn't listen to the DB TV announcers so I switched to WFAN and Howie Rose made a very good point late in the game. That point was that Mets pitching woes have been such that when the team takes the field the only time the players must feel they have a reasonable expectation of winning is when Santana takes the mound.[/quote:1q09tndh] See I hang this on the batting woes. And I make no exception for Cory. They are overmatched --- a month of Daniel Murphy batting cleanup will move future researchers to do some serious head scratching --- but that should make them more focused on strategemeric thinking, not less. That said, every time Livan starts a game, I think, "Oh, yeah, he's still here," so disengagement has spread to me. I'd really like to talk to Sheffield about why on earth he wants to go down with this ship. Fman99 Aug 12 2009 08:47 AM ="PiggiesTomatoes":2oa4i2aa]Couldn't listen to the DB TV announcers so I switched to WFAN and Howie Rose made a very good point late in the game. That point was that Mets pitching woes have been such that when the team takes the field the only time the players must feel they have a reasonable expectation of winning is when Santana takes the mound. Howie was very direct in referring to The Tall Glass of Water as a tremendous disappointment. Master OTO, Wayne Hagin, next chimes in wondering out loud how things were going to get better. I believe that's accurate and a factor as to why recent play has been so sloppy. I know they're professionals but that must be mentally taxing. Not that I wouldn't give a nut to be so taxed.[/quote:2oa4i2aa] Wayne Hagin:announcing::Mets:playing baseball

[Frayed Knot]

Oh gee, and an error burns us AGAIN!

[Piggiestomatoes]

Granted, wins are more enjoyable than losses but there's barely an element of entertainment with these fucks. I'm having trouble liking these guys.

Hey. look, Luis had his head up his ass (again).

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Luis isn't taking his Schaefer loss very well.