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="seawolf17":15pnzoax] ="Edgy DC":15pnzoax]I hope he stays where is and beats the Yankees six times a year.[/quote:15pnzoax] Eff that. I hope he comes to the Mets and beats the Phillies six times a year. Who cares who beats the Yankees?[/quote:15pnzoax] I hope he beats the Phillies six times and the Yankees twice. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 15 2009 09:42 AM ="smg58":2jjhq1hq]The guy to watch for in the system is Jennry Mejia. He's holding his own since the promotion to AA (3.74 ERA, 24 K's in 21 IP), and he doesn't turn 20 until October.[/quote:2jjhq1hq] And he'll be in Triple-A by then, and in the majors by mid-next year, and "flamed out" by September, and traded in October. Then he'll be an All-Star. [And the system also looks barren because its high-ceiling guys-- Martinez aside-- aren't the ones who've seen major-league time. (Compare Evans, Murphy and Niese to Alvarez, Bard, Buchholz, Jayson Heyward, Feliz, McCutchens, Buster Posey or any of the Giant pitchers.) Benjamin Grimm Jul 15 2009 09:47 AM Buster Posey? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 15 2009 09:58 AM ="Benjamin Grimm":2fume5nr]Buster Posey?[/quote:2fume5nr] Giants catching prospect with live arm (he pitched in college), great batting eye and stroke. Could probably be a good backup in the majors right now. Edgy DC Jul 15 2009 10:06 AM I doubt any of the OBGYN columinists who've declared barren-ness the last week or so know crap about the Giants' system. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 15 2009 10:19 AM ="Edgy DC":2sv7tji6]I doubt any of the OBGYN columinists who've declared barren-ness the last week or so know crap about the Giants' system.[/quote:2sv7tji6] Hell, I doubt they know crap about the Giants beyond Lincecum (maybe). To those who actually do pay attention, though, the fact that we've got a bit of a Dannon system-- fruit on the bottom-- is a valid sticking point, and a big reason the system as a whole doesn't grade out higher. Frayed Knot Jul 15 2009 12:03 PM ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]To those who actually do pay attention, though, the fact that we've got a bit of a Dannon system-- fruit on the bottom-- is a valid sticking point, and a big reason the system as a whole doesn't grade out higher. True, the best ones (aside from Martinez) in terms of high ceiling are generally further away. That's also a reason why some* hear the phrase; 'no one ready to step in now' and translate that into "barren" since for teams wanting a haul of ML-ready players in exchange for their Halladays or Hollidays there's not a match in the Met system. * Francesa, just to name one, has been dismissing Fartinez for about two years now based on the reasoning that; 'if he was any good he'd be here already' Edgy DC Jul 15 2009 12:09 PM Because there are so many 18-year-olds in the league. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 15 2009 03:21 PM Thought someone would have mentioned this-- yipes: ]I never met him, never talked to him. We�d get the monthly statement. He was kind of like a mystery man. He�d turn down people. My brother said, �Can I get to invest with him?��he turned him down. I think that added to the mystique.� King mentions that the man who got King with Madoff, New York Mets owner Fred Wilpon, lost $700 million. �Freddie says he�s not angry,� King says, �he�s betrayed.� http://men.style.com/gq/features/full?id=content_9237&pageNum=12 So... we're not going to be buyers at the deadline, then? Mex17 Jul 24 2009 04:05 PM And now the new Bernazard things. . .with the reports that he probaby will not get the ax because he is "Jeff's guy". . .along with Phillips commenting on the "collegial atmosphere" and how it does not work for the team. I'm just gonna keep collecting my evidence in this thread I guess. Mex17 Jul 26 2009 07:02 AM http://www.nypost.com/seven/07262009/sports/mets/amazins_next_moves_will_be_more_of_same_181474.htm?page=0 metirish Jul 26 2009 07:57 AM Steve Phillips: The most trusted name in baseball. Nymr83 Jul 26 2009 08:22 AM Steve Phillips: The most trusted name in baseball Met-bashing. Mex17 Jul 26 2009 08:50 AM He may have a point regardless. Overly-lenient parents usually result in disobedient children. metirish Jul 26 2009 10:02 AM Steveo certainly had a fun time working there , at least until he was dragged into court. Mex17 Jul 26 2009 11:04 AM ="metirish":2bhds3vd]Steveo certainly had a fun time working there , at least until he was dragged into court.[/quote:2bhds3vd] With all due respect, you're still ducking the issue. Tabloid sensationalism and personal agenas from critics notwithstanding, there is too much smoke around this front office/ownership group to ignore the presense of a fire. Kong76 Jul 26 2009 11:15 AM It's largely your issue (here), people don't need to entertain it if they don't want to. Valadius Jul 26 2009 03:09 PM I'm just scared what happens when Daddy Wilpon is no longer around and Jeffy takes total control.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

="smg58":2jjhq1hq]The guy to watch for in the system is Jennry Mejia. He's holding his own since the promotion to AA (3.74 ERA, 24 K's in 21 IP), and he doesn't turn 20 until October.[/quote:2jjhq1hq] And he'll be in Triple-A by then, and in the majors by mid-next year, and "flamed out" by September, and traded in October. Then he'll be an All-Star. [And the system also looks barren because its high-ceiling guys-- Martinez aside-- aren't the ones who've seen major-league time. (Compare Evans, Murphy and Niese to Alvarez, Bard, Buchholz, Jayson Heyward, Feliz, McCutchens, Buster Posey or any of the Giant pitchers.)

Benjamin Grimm Jul 15 2009 09:47 AM

Buster Posey?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 15 2009 09:58 AM

="Benjamin Grimm":2fume5nr]Buster Posey?[/quote:2fume5nr] Giants catching prospect with live arm (he pitched in college), great batting eye and stroke. Could probably be a good backup in the majors right now. Edgy DC Jul 15 2009 10:06 AM I doubt any of the OBGYN columinists who've declared barren-ness the last week or so know crap about the Giants' system. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 15 2009 10:19 AM ="Edgy DC":2sv7tji6]I doubt any of the OBGYN columinists who've declared barren-ness the last week or so know crap about the Giants' system.[/quote:2sv7tji6] Hell, I doubt they know crap about the Giants beyond Lincecum (maybe). To those who actually do pay attention, though, the fact that we've got a bit of a Dannon system-- fruit on the bottom-- is a valid sticking point, and a big reason the system as a whole doesn't grade out higher. Frayed Knot Jul 15 2009 12:03 PM ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]To those who actually do pay attention, though, the fact that we've got a bit of a Dannon system-- fruit on the bottom-- is a valid sticking point, and a big reason the system as a whole doesn't grade out higher. True, the best ones (aside from Martinez) in terms of high ceiling are generally further away. That's also a reason why some* hear the phrase; 'no one ready to step in now' and translate that into "barren" since for teams wanting a haul of ML-ready players in exchange for their Halladays or Hollidays there's not a match in the Met system. * Francesa, just to name one, has been dismissing Fartinez for about two years now based on the reasoning that; 'if he was any good he'd be here already' Edgy DC Jul 15 2009 12:09 PM Because there are so many 18-year-olds in the league. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 15 2009 03:21 PM Thought someone would have mentioned this-- yipes: ]I never met him, never talked to him. We�d get the monthly statement. He was kind of like a mystery man. He�d turn down people. My brother said, �Can I get to invest with him?��he turned him down. I think that added to the mystique.� King mentions that the man who got King with Madoff, New York Mets owner Fred Wilpon, lost $700 million. �Freddie says he�s not angry,� King says, �he�s betrayed.� http://men.style.com/gq/features/full?id=content_9237&pageNum=12 So... we're not going to be buyers at the deadline, then? Mex17 Jul 24 2009 04:05 PM And now the new Bernazard things. . .with the reports that he probaby will not get the ax because he is "Jeff's guy". . .along with Phillips commenting on the "collegial atmosphere" and how it does not work for the team. I'm just gonna keep collecting my evidence in this thread I guess. Mex17 Jul 26 2009 07:02 AM http://www.nypost.com/seven/07262009/sports/mets/amazins_next_moves_will_be_more_of_same_181474.htm?page=0 metirish Jul 26 2009 07:57 AM Steve Phillips: The most trusted name in baseball. Nymr83 Jul 26 2009 08:22 AM Steve Phillips: The most trusted name in baseball Met-bashing. Mex17 Jul 26 2009 08:50 AM He may have a point regardless. Overly-lenient parents usually result in disobedient children. metirish Jul 26 2009 10:02 AM Steveo certainly had a fun time working there , at least until he was dragged into court. Mex17 Jul 26 2009 11:04 AM ="metirish":2bhds3vd]Steveo certainly had a fun time working there , at least until he was dragged into court.[/quote:2bhds3vd] With all due respect, you're still ducking the issue. Tabloid sensationalism and personal agenas from critics notwithstanding, there is too much smoke around this front office/ownership group to ignore the presense of a fire. Kong76 Jul 26 2009 11:15 AM It's largely your issue (here), people don't need to entertain it if they don't want to. Valadius Jul 26 2009 03:09 PM I'm just scared what happens when Daddy Wilpon is no longer around and Jeffy takes total control.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Buster Posey?

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

="Benjamin Grimm":2fume5nr]Buster Posey?[/quote:2fume5nr] Giants catching prospect with live arm (he pitched in college), great batting eye and stroke. Could probably be a good backup in the majors right now.

Edgy DC Jul 15 2009 10:06 AM

I doubt any of the OBGYN columinists who've declared barren-ness the last week or so know crap about the Giants' system.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 15 2009 10:19 AM

="Edgy DC":2sv7tji6]I doubt any of the OBGYN columinists who've declared barren-ness the last week or so know crap about the Giants' system.[/quote:2sv7tji6] Hell, I doubt they know crap about the Giants beyond Lincecum (maybe). To those who actually do pay attention, though, the fact that we've got a bit of a Dannon system-- fruit on the bottom-- is a valid sticking point, and a big reason the system as a whole doesn't grade out higher. Frayed Knot Jul 15 2009 12:03 PM ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]To those who actually do pay attention, though, the fact that we've got a bit of a Dannon system-- fruit on the bottom-- is a valid sticking point, and a big reason the system as a whole doesn't grade out higher. True, the best ones (aside from Martinez) in terms of high ceiling are generally further away. That's also a reason why some* hear the phrase; 'no one ready to step in now' and translate that into "barren" since for teams wanting a haul of ML-ready players in exchange for their Halladays or Hollidays there's not a match in the Met system. * Francesa, just to name one, has been dismissing Fartinez for about two years now based on the reasoning that; 'if he was any good he'd be here already' Edgy DC Jul 15 2009 12:09 PM Because there are so many 18-year-olds in the league. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 15 2009 03:21 PM Thought someone would have mentioned this-- yipes: ]I never met him, never talked to him. We�d get the monthly statement. He was kind of like a mystery man. He�d turn down people. My brother said, �Can I get to invest with him?��he turned him down. I think that added to the mystique.� King mentions that the man who got King with Madoff, New York Mets owner Fred Wilpon, lost $700 million. �Freddie says he�s not angry,� King says, �he�s betrayed.� http://men.style.com/gq/features/full?id=content_9237&pageNum=12 So... we're not going to be buyers at the deadline, then? Mex17 Jul 24 2009 04:05 PM And now the new Bernazard things. . .with the reports that he probaby will not get the ax because he is "Jeff's guy". . .along with Phillips commenting on the "collegial atmosphere" and how it does not work for the team. I'm just gonna keep collecting my evidence in this thread I guess. Mex17 Jul 26 2009 07:02 AM http://www.nypost.com/seven/07262009/sports/mets/amazins_next_moves_will_be_more_of_same_181474.htm?page=0 metirish Jul 26 2009 07:57 AM Steve Phillips: The most trusted name in baseball. Nymr83 Jul 26 2009 08:22 AM Steve Phillips: The most trusted name in baseball Met-bashing. Mex17 Jul 26 2009 08:50 AM He may have a point regardless. Overly-lenient parents usually result in disobedient children. metirish Jul 26 2009 10:02 AM Steveo certainly had a fun time working there , at least until he was dragged into court. Mex17 Jul 26 2009 11:04 AM ="metirish":2bhds3vd]Steveo certainly had a fun time working there , at least until he was dragged into court.[/quote:2bhds3vd] With all due respect, you're still ducking the issue. Tabloid sensationalism and personal agenas from critics notwithstanding, there is too much smoke around this front office/ownership group to ignore the presense of a fire. Kong76 Jul 26 2009 11:15 AM It's largely your issue (here), people don't need to entertain it if they don't want to. Valadius Jul 26 2009 03:09 PM I'm just scared what happens when Daddy Wilpon is no longer around and Jeffy takes total control.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I doubt any of the OBGYN columinists who've declared barren-ness the last week or so know crap about the Giants' system.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

="Edgy DC":2sv7tji6]I doubt any of the OBGYN columinists who've declared barren-ness the last week or so know crap about the Giants' system.[/quote:2sv7tji6] Hell, I doubt they know crap about the Giants beyond Lincecum (maybe). To those who actually do pay attention, though, the fact that we've got a bit of a Dannon system-- fruit on the bottom-- is a valid sticking point, and a big reason the system as a whole doesn't grade out higher.

Frayed Knot Jul 15 2009 12:03 PM

="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]To those who actually do pay attention, though, the fact that we've got a bit of a Dannon system-- fruit on the bottom-- is a valid sticking point, and a big reason the system as a whole doesn't grade out higher. True, the best ones (aside from Martinez) in terms of high ceiling are generally further away. That's also a reason why some* hear the phrase; 'no one ready to step in now' and translate that into "barren" since for teams wanting a haul of ML-ready players in exchange for their Halladays or Hollidays there's not a match in the Met system. * Francesa, just to name one, has been dismissing Fartinez for about two years now based on the reasoning that; 'if he was any good he'd be here already'

Edgy DC Jul 15 2009 12:09 PM

Because there are so many 18-year-olds in the league.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 15 2009 03:21 PM

Thought someone would have mentioned this-- yipes: ]I never met him, never talked to him. We�d get the monthly statement. He was kind of like a mystery man. He�d turn down people. My brother said, �Can I get to invest with him?��he turned him down. I think that added to the mystique.� King mentions that the man who got King with Madoff, New York Mets owner Fred Wilpon, lost $700 million. �Freddie says he�s not angry,� King says, �he�s betrayed.� http://men.style.com/gq/features/full?id=content_9237&pageNum=12 So... we're not going to be buyers at the deadline, then?

Mex17 Jul 24 2009 04:05 PM

And now the new Bernazard things. . .with the reports that he probaby will not get the ax because he is "Jeff's guy". . .along with Phillips commenting on the "collegial atmosphere" and how it does not work for the team. I'm just gonna keep collecting my evidence in this thread I guess.

Mex17 Jul 26 2009 07:02 AM

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07262009/sports/mets/amazins_next_moves_will_be_more_of_same_181474.htm?page=0

metirish Jul 26 2009 07:57 AM

Steve Phillips: The most trusted name in baseball.

Nymr83 Jul 26 2009 08:22 AM

Steve Phillips: The most trusted name in baseball Met-bashing.

Mex17 Jul 26 2009 08:50 AM

He may have a point regardless. Overly-lenient parents usually result in disobedient children.

metirish Jul 26 2009 10:02 AM

Steveo certainly had a fun time working there , at least until he was dragged into court.

Mex17 Jul 26 2009 11:04 AM

="metirish":2bhds3vd]Steveo certainly had a fun time working there , at least until he was dragged into court.[/quote:2bhds3vd] With all due respect, you're still ducking the issue. Tabloid sensationalism and personal agenas from critics notwithstanding, there is too much smoke around this front office/ownership group to ignore the presense of a fire. Kong76 Jul 26 2009 11:15 AM It's largely your issue (here), people don't need to entertain it if they don't want to. Valadius Jul 26 2009 03:09 PM I'm just scared what happens when Daddy Wilpon is no longer around and Jeffy takes total control.

[Frayed Knot]

="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]To those who actually do pay attention, though, the fact that we've got a bit of a Dannon system-- fruit on the bottom-- is a valid sticking point, and a big reason the system as a whole doesn't grade out higher.

True, the best ones (aside from Martinez) in terms of high ceiling are generally further away. That's also a reason why some* hear the phrase; 'no one ready to step in now' and translate that into "barren" since for teams wanting a haul of ML-ready players in exchange for their Halladays or Hollidays there's not a match in the Met system.




* Francesa, just to name one, has been dismissing Fartinez for about two years now based on the reasoning that; 'if he was any good he'd be here already'

[Guest Edgy DC]

Because there are so many 18-year-olds in the league.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Thought someone would have mentioned this-- yipes:

]I never met him, never talked to him. We�d get the monthly statement. He was kind of like a mystery man. He�d turn down people. My brother said, �Can I get to invest with him?��he turned him down. I think that added to the mystique.� King mentions that the man who got King with Madoff, New York Mets owner Fred Wilpon, lost $700 million. �Freddie says he�s not angry,� King says, �he�s betrayed.�

http://men.style.com/gq/features/full?id=content_9237&pageNum=12

So... we're not going to be buyers at the deadline, then?

[Mex17]

And now the new Bernazard things. . .with the reports that he probaby will not get the ax because he is "Jeff's guy". . .along with Phillips commenting on the "collegial atmosphere" and how it does not work for the team.

I'm just gonna keep collecting my evidence in this thread I guess.

[Mex17]

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07262009/sports/mets/amazins_next_moves_will_be_more_of_same_181474.htm?page=0

[metirish]

Steve Phillips: The most trusted name in baseball.

[nymr83]

Steve Phillips: The most trusted name in baseball Met-bashing.

[Mex17]

He may have a point regardless.

Overly-lenient parents usually result in disobedient children.

[metirish]

Steveo certainly had a fun time working there , at least until he was dragged into court.

[Mex17]

="metirish":2bhds3vd]Steveo certainly had a fun time working there , at least until he was dragged into court.[/quote:2bhds3vd] With all due respect, you're still ducking the issue. Tabloid sensationalism and personal agenas from critics notwithstanding, there is too much smoke around this front office/ownership group to ignore the presense of a fire.

Kong76 Jul 26 2009 11:15 AM

It's largely your issue (here), people don't need to entertain it if they don't want to.

Valadius Jul 26 2009 03:09 PM

I'm just scared what happens when Daddy Wilpon is no longer around and Jeffy takes total control.

[Guest Kong76]

It's largely your issue (here), people don't need to entertain it if they don't want to.

[Valadius]

I'm just scared what happens when Daddy Wilpon is no longer around and Jeffy takes total control.