Theoldmole Old-Timey Member Posted April 18, 2009 Posted April 18, 2009 Had no idea, before Sheff jacked his and they started printing lists of the 500 club, that Jim Thome had so many. Does this mean he's a HOF candidate? He's way over the top on Baseball Reference's HOF monitor.
Guest Kong76 Guests Posted April 18, 2009 Posted April 18, 2009 ~ 25/17,000 is a pretty staggering number.
Guest cooby Guests Posted April 18, 2009 Posted April 18, 2009 He could be. He was a major star for Cleveland before Phillie. Nice big guy too, never heard any "rumors" about him.My son adored him when he was a little boy. (my son, not Thome)
Guest themetfairy Guests Posted April 18, 2009 Posted April 18, 2009 I've only heard good things about Thome. He was active with the Tug McGraw Foundation when he was in Philly, and all reports are that he's a great guy.
Guest Kong76 Guests Posted April 18, 2009 Posted April 18, 2009 I'd like to add that it's not a popularity contest, but I can't.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted April 18, 2009 Posted April 18, 2009 If Frank Thomas gets in then Thome should , yes/no?
HahnSolo Old-Timey Member Posted April 18, 2009 Posted April 18, 2009 I would probably put Thomas first, but that's without really taking a hard look at the numbers. Now, if you were to advocate both for the HOF, does Carlos Delgado get a look?
Guest GYC Guests Posted April 18, 2009 Posted April 18, 2009 If I had I vote for the Hall of Fame, I'd vote in JI
Guest GYC Guests Posted April 18, 2009 Posted April 18, 2009 JIM THOME, but alas, I am not. Who knows with the BBWAA, though. Clowns.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted April 18, 2009 Posted April 18, 2009 ="metirish":27851ocb]If Frank Thomas gets in then Thome should , yes/no?[/quote:27851ocb]If Thomas yes, then Thome certainly.But I'd prefer Thome yes and Thomas no.My impression is Thome playing most of his games as a first baseman. Thomas was a poster boy for the DH.EDIT: I checked. Thome had twice as many games as a first baseman than as a DH. If you add 3B to 1B, it is around 3:1. Thomas was about 1.4 : 1 as a DH.LaterVic Sage Apr 20 2009 01:49 PMThomas was the superior hitter, both at his peak and for his career. a 2x MVP, with around 10 seasons amongst top 5 OPS+, he was among the most dominant hitters of his era.Thome was very good, but his numbers don't really compare favorably, either at his peak, or for his career. Regarding the DH factor, it was not like Thome was an up the middle player or a GG corner man. His ticket to Cooperstown will not be punched because of his glove, so i don't see that as making up the difference between him and Big Hurt. "niceness" aside, i don't think ite even that close a call, as between the 2.TransMonk Apr 20 2009 01:53 PMAgreed, Thomas is more HOF worthy than Thome. Although, I'm guessing they both get in.Edgy DC Apr 20 2009 02:00 PMI thought Thomas was clearly better, but then I checked and it was closer than I thought. Did not know Thome had a .406 OBP over his career.I score it 798,248 for Thome and 967,104 for Thomas as hitters. Does the difference between a firstbaseman/thirdbaseman/DH and a DH/firstbaseman make up for that. I think not, but I think it's an open question.
Vic Sage Old-Timey Member Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 Thomas was the superior hitter, both at his peak and for his career. a 2x MVP, with around 10 seasons amongst top 5 OPS+, he was among the most dominant hitters of his era.Thome was very good, but his numbers don't really compare favorably, either at his peak, or for his career. Regarding the DH factor, it was not like Thome was an up the middle player or a GG corner man. His ticket to Cooperstown will not be punched because of his glove, so i don't see that as making up the difference between him and Big Hurt. "niceness" aside, i don't think ite even that close a call, as between the 2.
TransMonk Old-Timey Member Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 Agreed, Thomas is more HOF worthy than Thome. Although, I'm guessing they both get in.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 I thought Thomas was clearly better, but then I checked and it was closer than I thought. Did not know Thome had a .406 OBP over his career.I score it 798,248 for Thome and 967,104 for Thomas as hitters. Does the difference between a firstbaseman/thirdbaseman/DH and a DH/firstbaseman make up for that. I think not, but I think it's an open question.
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