Mets Classics

[batmagadanleadoff]

If anyone's interested, there's a Mets Classics on SNY right now -- the June 11, 2005 game against the Angels. Another game from the Wee Willie Small Balls era. What a surprise.

I'm exaggerating a little just to make a point here, but watching these Mets Classics reruns, you'd think that the Mets history consists of once beating the Yankees on a Matt Franco pinch hit, a hiatus, and then coming into full-time existence during --ugh!-- the Willie Randolph era.

How about Pedro Borbon eating Buzz Capra's cap or something?

[metirish]

Was that the game Floyd ended with a home run on what looked like a certain defeat?

[batmagadanleadoff]

I'm not gonna ruin the ending.

[Guest themetfairy]

="metirish":2zqonme2]Was that the game Floyd ended with a home run on what looked like a certain defeat?[/quote:2zqonme2] Yes. Plus it featured Marlon Anderson's 9th inning inside-the-park-home run. A memorable night....

themetfairy Jan 22 2009 01:52 PM

="batmagadanleadoff":39rvunh7]I'm not gonna ruin the ending.[/quote:39rvunh7] Oops - too late.... batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 01:58 PM ="themetfairy":3funch2w] ="batmagadanleadoff":3funch2w]I'm not gonna ruin the ending.[/quote:3funch2w] Oops - too late....[/quote:3funch2w] That's OK. If that game is supposed to be considered a classic, and on a very short list of games being rerun, then this franchise has no history. This is the kind of game I'd expect the Rays to be re-running. By the way, I suspect that the '73 RoseBud game has been long lost, misplaced or deteriorated beyond repair. I haven't seen video of that game since the '70's. themetfairy Jan 22 2009 02:01 PM I'd love to see Seaver's Imperfect Game, if the footage still exists. metirish Jan 22 2009 02:02 PM IIRC that game( the Floyd game) was tagged as an " instant classic" . G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:05 PM Edited 5 time(s), most recently on Jan 24 2009 03:13 AM Dave O'Brien not being Gary Cohen calling Marlon Anderson is always a disappointment when it's on. I counted recently and came up with 41 different Mets Classics/UltiMET Classics that have run in the course of SNY history. Nine were the '86 division clincher and eight postseason wins from that year; four were the '69 Series wins. Those seem to have been removed from circulation. Likewise the three '06 NLDS games. That's 16, leaving 25 games that seem to rotate, 14 of them pre-Snigh. 1986: The Padres game that ends on the 8-2-5 DP. 1988: Division clincher 1991: Darryl's return with Dodgers; Cone's 19-K game 1997: Mlicki shuts out MFYs 1998: Piazza's first game 1999: Matt Franco game; Ventura first game Grand Slam doubleheader; Leiter two-hitter to clinch Wild Card 2000: Benny hits grand slam in Tokyo; Ten-running inning 2001: Post-9/11 game 2005: Marlon Anderson game; Mister Koo game Eleven from the SNY era: 2006: Pedro's 200th win; Brian Bannister/Barry Bonds [played to death in a way the others haven't been, even the ones that have been played as much -- it seems to have been retired finally]; Wright beats Mariano; Beltran 16th inning HR [which I don't recall seeing since 2006]; Beltran walkoff vs. Cardinals; division clincher 2007: Endy bunt to beat Rockies; Five-run ninth to beat Cubs; Delgado walkoff following Armando balks 2008: Tatis walkoff from May; Johan three-hit masterpiece from Setpember ETA Mets Classics that occurred to me after the fact: Ventura, Koo, Leiter metirish Jan 22 2009 02:06 PM You Sir are a wealth of knowledge. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:06 PM And/or watch a lot of TV. batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 02:07 PM But do you know how many times each game was shown? G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:09 PM ="batmagadanleadoff":2kvq7ghb]But do you know how many times each game was shown?[/quote:2kvq7ghb] Almost all of them have been shown too much to truly surprise, but on the other hand, a Mets win can't be shown nearly enough. When you can't be specific, at least be zen. batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 02:12 PM I'm impressed. Do you keep a list? And didn't they once show Opening Day '83 (Seaver's return)? Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:16 PM Here's a Mets Classic. Tom Seaver and Pete Rose on the Mike Douglas Show in 1977. Seaver starts talking about the trade about 4:00 Carrie Fisher stares at Seaver's crotch about 5:00. Mike Douglas is a sexist around 7:10. Rose is a jerk pretty much from 0:00. What's with the sherriff's badge pendant? Frayed Knot Jan 22 2009 02:18 PM Re: Mets Classics ="batmagadanleadoff":mqoaopu1]I'm exaggerating a little just to make a point here, but watching these Mets Classics reruns, you'd think that the Mets history consists of once beating the Yankees on a Matt Franco pinch hit, a hiatus, and then coming into full-time existence during --ugh!-- the Willie Randolph era.[/quote:mqoaopu1] It's not that the Willie Randolph era fascinates them so much it's that running games they already own the rights to is so much easier ... and profitable. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:19 PM ="batmagadanleadoff":1070xs1a]I'm impressed. Do you keep a list? And didn't they once show Opening Day '83 (Seaver's return)?[/quote:1070xs1a] Working from memory. I'd plotz if they ever showed Seaver's return. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to join Carrie Fisher. themetfairy Jan 22 2009 02:21 PM ="G-Fafif":3zka4awh] ="batmagadanleadoff":3zka4awh]I'm impressed. Do you keep a list? And didn't they once show Opening Day '83 (Seaver's return)?[/quote:3zka4awh] Working from memory. I'd plotz if they ever showed Seaver's return. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to join Carrie Fisher.[/quote:3zka4awh] SNY didn't show Seaver's return. A poster on YouTube named JPhillips41 had footage from Seaver's return until MLB made him take it down (bastages!). Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:22 PM More on the trade here. Around 1:30 Douglas presciently points out that Rose will attempt to play into his fifties. Gay innuendo between Seaver and Rose at 5:00. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:24 PM That Pete Rose, he was quite the "free agent". You ladies know what I'm talking about. Maybe you don't. Tom, could you explain it to Carrie? Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:26 PM I got the idea that JPhillips41 taped the Seaver return 25 years ago. metirish Jan 22 2009 02:26 PM Video constraints here at work mean that I can't partake in the Seaver crotch viewing , describe please what I am missing? batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 02:29 PM Re: Mets Classics ="Frayed Knot":2ivynf2i] ="batmagadanleadoff":2ivynf2i]I'm exaggerating a little just to make a point here, but watching these Mets Classics reruns, you'd think that the Mets history consists of once beating the Yankees on a Matt Franco pinch hit, a hiatus, and then coming into full-time existence during --ugh!-- the Willie Randolph era.[/quote:2ivynf2i] It's not that the Willie Randolph era fascinates them so much it's that running games they already own the rights to is so much easier ... and profitable.[/quote:2ivynf2i] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:35 PM I noticed that when Mets Weekly did wrapup stuff in '06 for best games of the year they didn't use anything that aired on Fox or ESPN; for example, the eleven-run inning game against the Cubs, which was a Sunday nighter, went unmentioned. Later, there was a show (under the UltiMET umbrella) devoted to great home runs of 2006 and they entirely skipped the three-HR inning at Wrigley with the two grand slams -- ESPN. Must be a rights fee issue, though you'd figure it's all part of the same consortium. metirish Jan 22 2009 02:36 PM Wasn't there an issue a few years ago regarding SNY and WPIX , something about SNY trying to buy the WPIX Mets games or a question about ownership. Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:38 PM ="metirish":23uzvoxc]Video constraints here at work mean that I can't partake in the Seaver crotch viewing , describe please what I am missing?[/quote:23uzvoxc] It's real, and it's spectacular. Frayed Knot Jan 22 2009 02:38 PM And, likewise, I suspect there's some negotiating to be done for the stuff that originally aired under the Cablevision banner. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 22 2009 02:39 PM Re: Mets Classics ="batmagadanleadoff":37dsjy4t] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast.[/quote:37dsjy4t] I asked a SNY guy about this and he said MLB owns the whole shebang these days -- or at least what of that shebang still exists. My brilliant idea of replaying Random Crappy Met Games from the past as cheap SNY programming seems like a pipe dream. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:40 PM The '86 San Diego game is Channel 9; '88 Clincher is SportsChannel; several of the later Bobby V games are FSNY; a little Fox network is thrown in. Very much a hodgepodge. Seems to me they can get done what they want to get done. Maybe a new year brings a new slate. Gwreck Jan 22 2009 02:44 PM ="G-Fafif":2hielg5a]The '86 San Diego game is Channel 9; '88 Clincher is SportsChannel; several of the later Bobby V games are FSNY; a little Fox network is thrown in. Very much a hodgepodge. Seems to me they can get done what they want to get done. Maybe a new year brings a new slate.[/quote:2hielg5a] I'm sure it's a money thing. And with MLB network starting now, I bet they're going to keep the first right to games they want rather than allowing SNY to air them. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 04:19 PM There are certain SNY shows that use almost no postseason footage even when it is called for. Instead you see still photos as if video has yet to be invented. That is most definitely rights fees-related. batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 06:10 PM Another "classic" tonight on SNY from the Wee Willie years -- the 2006 Mets come back from a 4-0 1st inning deficit to defeat Randy Johnson and the MFY's. You knew the Mets were in it as soon as the MFY's plated their fourth run of the first inning. This effectively took away Willie's cherished though moronic let's sac bunt in the first inning strategy and forced Lo Duca to hit away after Reyes led off the home first with a walk. Lo Duca singled and came around to score on Beltran's homer. I always rooted for a big first inning from Met opponents during the Randolph era. metirish Jan 22 2009 06:17 PM 4 to 3 now in the second.....come on you Mets.... Edgy DC Jan 23 2009 07:01 AM I don't want to defend Willie too much, but I went back and checked Lo Duca's record. He had 10 sacrifice hits. All but one of them was to advance a runner from second with no outs --- not to advance a guy from first. I think three of them were in the first, and the rest were in late and close situations. Fman99 Jan 23 2009 07:56 AM Re: Mets Classics ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2vnfd2jw] ="batmagadanleadoff":2vnfd2jw] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast.[/quote:2vnfd2jw] I asked a SNY guy about this and he said MLB owns the whole shebang these days -- or at least what of that shebang still exists. My brilliant idea of replaying Random Crappy Met Games from the past as cheap SNY programming seems like a pipe dream.[/quote:2vnfd2jw] I would love that. Monday-Thursday, 7 PM, put on random Mets games from last year. Did they win or lose? I don't remember, let's watch! Their original content is still just a lot of blather meant to distract from the fact that, yes, it is still winter outside and no, you are not watching baseball right now. Benjamin Grimm Jan 23 2009 08:24 AM I'd rather see a random game from 20 or 30 years ago than one from last season, but maybe that's just me. metirish Jan 23 2009 08:33 AM I like the random recent game idea , I don't tune into SNY much these days as I get my baseball information from MLB Network. G-Fafif Feb 09 2009 12:02 PM The 1969 World Series returns to SNY tonight through Thursday night at 7:30, Games Two through Five. Mets in four...those four. John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 09 2009 12:22 PM Longest. Offseason. Ever. Gwreck Feb 16 2009 10:39 PM MLB Network is showing a game that SNY hasn't aired: Opening Day '85. This Saturday at 11:00 AM. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 03:31 PM Grab some popcorn and fire up the ol� DeLorean Time Machine because tonight, SNY and the Mets dig deep into yesteryear�s archives to shake the cobwebs from your memories. Does anyone still remember the iPhone? How about the Iraqi war? Tonight, it�s another Mets Classic from 2007 -way way back when the uniforms were black and the President was white. It�s the Mets vs. the Rockies tonight, all over again. Don�t bother looking for Jane Jarvis. Also starring Willie �I Will Sac Bunt for Food� Randolph as the manager and Burt Mustin as the batboy Gwreck Mar 02 2009 04:35 PM I believe that game was won on a bunt, actually. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 04:45 PM ="Gwreck":2ktjqog1]I believe that game was won on a bunt, actually.[/quote:2ktjqog1] But was it a base-hit bunt, or the out-making kind of bunt that Willie loved? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 02 2009 05:47 PM Walk-off bunt single. Endy's second finest moment in blue y orange. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 06:09 PM I knew that. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 06:10 PM I was at this game. I have to say, Easley's HR was a much bigger thrill. It was the absolute last thing I expected. Guy on 3rd, tie game in the home 12th, you're gonna win somehow. Edgy DC Mar 02 2009 06:42 PM Damion Easley, still jobless. Gwreck Mar 02 2009 07:13 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3g7r2yy9]I was at this game. I have to say, Easley's HR was a much bigger thrill. It was the absolute last thing I expected.[/quote:3g7r2yy9] So was I. My recollection was that Easley was down to his final strike with 2 outs as well, with Fuentes pitching. We were packing up to go home when he hit it out. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 07:50 PM Just turned this on only to find they're showing Game 1 of the 06 NLCS instead. Gwreck Mar 02 2009 08:51 PM I can't remember them ever showing that before. One of Glavine's finest pitching performances as a Met. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 09:34 PM Oh, sorry. I meant the Dodgers series. I think that's the one where John Maine gets his butt saved by the Dodgers' 3rd base coach. themetfairy Mar 02 2009 09:42 PM Yes - the double play at home plate was a thing of beauty. batmagadanleadoff Mar 03 2009 01:15 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":38thmw2y]Just turned this on only to find they're showing Game 1 of the 06 NL[D]S instead.[/quote:38thmw2y] It's obvious that SNY read my post and decided to get with it and show some older games.

[Guest themetfairy]

="batmagadanleadoff":39rvunh7]I'm not gonna ruin the ending.[/quote:39rvunh7] Oops - too late....

batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 01:58 PM

="themetfairy":3funch2w] ="batmagadanleadoff":3funch2w]I'm not gonna ruin the ending.[/quote:3funch2w] Oops - too late....[/quote:3funch2w] That's OK. If that game is supposed to be considered a classic, and on a very short list of games being rerun, then this franchise has no history. This is the kind of game I'd expect the Rays to be re-running. By the way, I suspect that the '73 RoseBud game has been long lost, misplaced or deteriorated beyond repair. I haven't seen video of that game since the '70's. themetfairy Jan 22 2009 02:01 PM I'd love to see Seaver's Imperfect Game, if the footage still exists. metirish Jan 22 2009 02:02 PM IIRC that game( the Floyd game) was tagged as an " instant classic" . G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:05 PM Edited 5 time(s), most recently on Jan 24 2009 03:13 AM Dave O'Brien not being Gary Cohen calling Marlon Anderson is always a disappointment when it's on. I counted recently and came up with 41 different Mets Classics/UltiMET Classics that have run in the course of SNY history. Nine were the '86 division clincher and eight postseason wins from that year; four were the '69 Series wins. Those seem to have been removed from circulation. Likewise the three '06 NLDS games. That's 16, leaving 25 games that seem to rotate, 14 of them pre-Snigh. 1986: The Padres game that ends on the 8-2-5 DP. 1988: Division clincher 1991: Darryl's return with Dodgers; Cone's 19-K game 1997: Mlicki shuts out MFYs 1998: Piazza's first game 1999: Matt Franco game; Ventura first game Grand Slam doubleheader; Leiter two-hitter to clinch Wild Card 2000: Benny hits grand slam in Tokyo; Ten-running inning 2001: Post-9/11 game 2005: Marlon Anderson game; Mister Koo game Eleven from the SNY era: 2006: Pedro's 200th win; Brian Bannister/Barry Bonds [played to death in a way the others haven't been, even the ones that have been played as much -- it seems to have been retired finally]; Wright beats Mariano; Beltran 16th inning HR [which I don't recall seeing since 2006]; Beltran walkoff vs. Cardinals; division clincher 2007: Endy bunt to beat Rockies; Five-run ninth to beat Cubs; Delgado walkoff following Armando balks 2008: Tatis walkoff from May; Johan three-hit masterpiece from Setpember ETA Mets Classics that occurred to me after the fact: Ventura, Koo, Leiter metirish Jan 22 2009 02:06 PM You Sir are a wealth of knowledge. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:06 PM And/or watch a lot of TV. batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 02:07 PM But do you know how many times each game was shown? G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:09 PM ="batmagadanleadoff":2kvq7ghb]But do you know how many times each game was shown?[/quote:2kvq7ghb] Almost all of them have been shown too much to truly surprise, but on the other hand, a Mets win can't be shown nearly enough. When you can't be specific, at least be zen. batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 02:12 PM I'm impressed. Do you keep a list? And didn't they once show Opening Day '83 (Seaver's return)? Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:16 PM Here's a Mets Classic. Tom Seaver and Pete Rose on the Mike Douglas Show in 1977. Seaver starts talking about the trade about 4:00 Carrie Fisher stares at Seaver's crotch about 5:00. Mike Douglas is a sexist around 7:10. Rose is a jerk pretty much from 0:00. What's with the sherriff's badge pendant? Frayed Knot Jan 22 2009 02:18 PM Re: Mets Classics ="batmagadanleadoff":mqoaopu1]I'm exaggerating a little just to make a point here, but watching these Mets Classics reruns, you'd think that the Mets history consists of once beating the Yankees on a Matt Franco pinch hit, a hiatus, and then coming into full-time existence during --ugh!-- the Willie Randolph era.[/quote:mqoaopu1] It's not that the Willie Randolph era fascinates them so much it's that running games they already own the rights to is so much easier ... and profitable. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:19 PM ="batmagadanleadoff":1070xs1a]I'm impressed. Do you keep a list? And didn't they once show Opening Day '83 (Seaver's return)?[/quote:1070xs1a] Working from memory. I'd plotz if they ever showed Seaver's return. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to join Carrie Fisher. themetfairy Jan 22 2009 02:21 PM ="G-Fafif":3zka4awh] ="batmagadanleadoff":3zka4awh]I'm impressed. Do you keep a list? And didn't they once show Opening Day '83 (Seaver's return)?[/quote:3zka4awh] Working from memory. I'd plotz if they ever showed Seaver's return. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to join Carrie Fisher.[/quote:3zka4awh] SNY didn't show Seaver's return. A poster on YouTube named JPhillips41 had footage from Seaver's return until MLB made him take it down (bastages!). Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:22 PM More on the trade here. Around 1:30 Douglas presciently points out that Rose will attempt to play into his fifties. Gay innuendo between Seaver and Rose at 5:00. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:24 PM That Pete Rose, he was quite the "free agent". You ladies know what I'm talking about. Maybe you don't. Tom, could you explain it to Carrie? Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:26 PM I got the idea that JPhillips41 taped the Seaver return 25 years ago. metirish Jan 22 2009 02:26 PM Video constraints here at work mean that I can't partake in the Seaver crotch viewing , describe please what I am missing? batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 02:29 PM Re: Mets Classics ="Frayed Knot":2ivynf2i] ="batmagadanleadoff":2ivynf2i]I'm exaggerating a little just to make a point here, but watching these Mets Classics reruns, you'd think that the Mets history consists of once beating the Yankees on a Matt Franco pinch hit, a hiatus, and then coming into full-time existence during --ugh!-- the Willie Randolph era.[/quote:2ivynf2i] It's not that the Willie Randolph era fascinates them so much it's that running games they already own the rights to is so much easier ... and profitable.[/quote:2ivynf2i] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:35 PM I noticed that when Mets Weekly did wrapup stuff in '06 for best games of the year they didn't use anything that aired on Fox or ESPN; for example, the eleven-run inning game against the Cubs, which was a Sunday nighter, went unmentioned. Later, there was a show (under the UltiMET umbrella) devoted to great home runs of 2006 and they entirely skipped the three-HR inning at Wrigley with the two grand slams -- ESPN. Must be a rights fee issue, though you'd figure it's all part of the same consortium. metirish Jan 22 2009 02:36 PM Wasn't there an issue a few years ago regarding SNY and WPIX , something about SNY trying to buy the WPIX Mets games or a question about ownership. Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:38 PM ="metirish":23uzvoxc]Video constraints here at work mean that I can't partake in the Seaver crotch viewing , describe please what I am missing?[/quote:23uzvoxc] It's real, and it's spectacular. Frayed Knot Jan 22 2009 02:38 PM And, likewise, I suspect there's some negotiating to be done for the stuff that originally aired under the Cablevision banner. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 22 2009 02:39 PM Re: Mets Classics ="batmagadanleadoff":37dsjy4t] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast.[/quote:37dsjy4t] I asked a SNY guy about this and he said MLB owns the whole shebang these days -- or at least what of that shebang still exists. My brilliant idea of replaying Random Crappy Met Games from the past as cheap SNY programming seems like a pipe dream. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:40 PM The '86 San Diego game is Channel 9; '88 Clincher is SportsChannel; several of the later Bobby V games are FSNY; a little Fox network is thrown in. Very much a hodgepodge. Seems to me they can get done what they want to get done. Maybe a new year brings a new slate. Gwreck Jan 22 2009 02:44 PM ="G-Fafif":2hielg5a]The '86 San Diego game is Channel 9; '88 Clincher is SportsChannel; several of the later Bobby V games are FSNY; a little Fox network is thrown in. Very much a hodgepodge. Seems to me they can get done what they want to get done. Maybe a new year brings a new slate.[/quote:2hielg5a] I'm sure it's a money thing. And with MLB network starting now, I bet they're going to keep the first right to games they want rather than allowing SNY to air them. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 04:19 PM There are certain SNY shows that use almost no postseason footage even when it is called for. Instead you see still photos as if video has yet to be invented. That is most definitely rights fees-related. batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 06:10 PM Another "classic" tonight on SNY from the Wee Willie years -- the 2006 Mets come back from a 4-0 1st inning deficit to defeat Randy Johnson and the MFY's. You knew the Mets were in it as soon as the MFY's plated their fourth run of the first inning. This effectively took away Willie's cherished though moronic let's sac bunt in the first inning strategy and forced Lo Duca to hit away after Reyes led off the home first with a walk. Lo Duca singled and came around to score on Beltran's homer. I always rooted for a big first inning from Met opponents during the Randolph era. metirish Jan 22 2009 06:17 PM 4 to 3 now in the second.....come on you Mets.... Edgy DC Jan 23 2009 07:01 AM I don't want to defend Willie too much, but I went back and checked Lo Duca's record. He had 10 sacrifice hits. All but one of them was to advance a runner from second with no outs --- not to advance a guy from first. I think three of them were in the first, and the rest were in late and close situations. Fman99 Jan 23 2009 07:56 AM Re: Mets Classics ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2vnfd2jw] ="batmagadanleadoff":2vnfd2jw] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast.[/quote:2vnfd2jw] I asked a SNY guy about this and he said MLB owns the whole shebang these days -- or at least what of that shebang still exists. My brilliant idea of replaying Random Crappy Met Games from the past as cheap SNY programming seems like a pipe dream.[/quote:2vnfd2jw] I would love that. Monday-Thursday, 7 PM, put on random Mets games from last year. Did they win or lose? I don't remember, let's watch! Their original content is still just a lot of blather meant to distract from the fact that, yes, it is still winter outside and no, you are not watching baseball right now. Benjamin Grimm Jan 23 2009 08:24 AM I'd rather see a random game from 20 or 30 years ago than one from last season, but maybe that's just me. metirish Jan 23 2009 08:33 AM I like the random recent game idea , I don't tune into SNY much these days as I get my baseball information from MLB Network. G-Fafif Feb 09 2009 12:02 PM The 1969 World Series returns to SNY tonight through Thursday night at 7:30, Games Two through Five. Mets in four...those four. John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 09 2009 12:22 PM Longest. Offseason. Ever. Gwreck Feb 16 2009 10:39 PM MLB Network is showing a game that SNY hasn't aired: Opening Day '85. This Saturday at 11:00 AM. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 03:31 PM Grab some popcorn and fire up the ol� DeLorean Time Machine because tonight, SNY and the Mets dig deep into yesteryear�s archives to shake the cobwebs from your memories. Does anyone still remember the iPhone? How about the Iraqi war? Tonight, it�s another Mets Classic from 2007 -way way back when the uniforms were black and the President was white. It�s the Mets vs. the Rockies tonight, all over again. Don�t bother looking for Jane Jarvis. Also starring Willie �I Will Sac Bunt for Food� Randolph as the manager and Burt Mustin as the batboy Gwreck Mar 02 2009 04:35 PM I believe that game was won on a bunt, actually. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 04:45 PM ="Gwreck":2ktjqog1]I believe that game was won on a bunt, actually.[/quote:2ktjqog1] But was it a base-hit bunt, or the out-making kind of bunt that Willie loved? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 02 2009 05:47 PM Walk-off bunt single. Endy's second finest moment in blue y orange. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 06:09 PM I knew that. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 06:10 PM I was at this game. I have to say, Easley's HR was a much bigger thrill. It was the absolute last thing I expected. Guy on 3rd, tie game in the home 12th, you're gonna win somehow. Edgy DC Mar 02 2009 06:42 PM Damion Easley, still jobless. Gwreck Mar 02 2009 07:13 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3g7r2yy9]I was at this game. I have to say, Easley's HR was a much bigger thrill. It was the absolute last thing I expected.[/quote:3g7r2yy9] So was I. My recollection was that Easley was down to his final strike with 2 outs as well, with Fuentes pitching. We were packing up to go home when he hit it out. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 07:50 PM Just turned this on only to find they're showing Game 1 of the 06 NLCS instead. Gwreck Mar 02 2009 08:51 PM I can't remember them ever showing that before. One of Glavine's finest pitching performances as a Met. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 09:34 PM Oh, sorry. I meant the Dodgers series. I think that's the one where John Maine gets his butt saved by the Dodgers' 3rd base coach. themetfairy Mar 02 2009 09:42 PM Yes - the double play at home plate was a thing of beauty. batmagadanleadoff Mar 03 2009 01:15 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":38thmw2y]Just turned this on only to find they're showing Game 1 of the 06 NL[D]S instead.[/quote:38thmw2y] It's obvious that SNY read my post and decided to get with it and show some older games.

[batmagadanleadoff]

="themetfairy":3funch2w] ="batmagadanleadoff":3funch2w]I'm not gonna ruin the ending.[/quote:3funch2w] Oops - too late....[/quote:3funch2w] That's OK. If that game is supposed to be considered a classic, and on a very short list of games being rerun, then this franchise has no history. This is the kind of game I'd expect the Rays to be re-running. By the way, I suspect that the '73 RoseBud game has been long lost, misplaced or deteriorated beyond repair. I haven't seen video of that game since the '70's. themetfairy Jan 22 2009 02:01 PM I'd love to see Seaver's Imperfect Game, if the footage still exists. metirish Jan 22 2009 02:02 PM IIRC that game( the Floyd game) was tagged as an " instant classic" . G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:05 PM Edited 5 time(s), most recently on Jan 24 2009 03:13 AM Dave O'Brien not being Gary Cohen calling Marlon Anderson is always a disappointment when it's on. I counted recently and came up with 41 different Mets Classics/UltiMET Classics that have run in the course of SNY history. Nine were the '86 division clincher and eight postseason wins from that year; four were the '69 Series wins. Those seem to have been removed from circulation. Likewise the three '06 NLDS games. That's 16, leaving 25 games that seem to rotate, 14 of them pre-Snigh. 1986: The Padres game that ends on the 8-2-5 DP. 1988: Division clincher 1991: Darryl's return with Dodgers; Cone's 19-K game 1997: Mlicki shuts out MFYs 1998: Piazza's first game 1999: Matt Franco game; Ventura first game Grand Slam doubleheader; Leiter two-hitter to clinch Wild Card 2000: Benny hits grand slam in Tokyo; Ten-running inning 2001: Post-9/11 game 2005: Marlon Anderson game; Mister Koo game Eleven from the SNY era: 2006: Pedro's 200th win; Brian Bannister/Barry Bonds [played to death in a way the others haven't been, even the ones that have been played as much -- it seems to have been retired finally]; Wright beats Mariano; Beltran 16th inning HR [which I don't recall seeing since 2006]; Beltran walkoff vs. Cardinals; division clincher 2007: Endy bunt to beat Rockies; Five-run ninth to beat Cubs; Delgado walkoff following Armando balks 2008: Tatis walkoff from May; Johan three-hit masterpiece from Setpember ETA Mets Classics that occurred to me after the fact: Ventura, Koo, Leiter metirish Jan 22 2009 02:06 PM You Sir are a wealth of knowledge. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:06 PM And/or watch a lot of TV. batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 02:07 PM But do you know how many times each game was shown? G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:09 PM ="batmagadanleadoff":2kvq7ghb]But do you know how many times each game was shown?[/quote:2kvq7ghb] Almost all of them have been shown too much to truly surprise, but on the other hand, a Mets win can't be shown nearly enough. When you can't be specific, at least be zen. batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 02:12 PM I'm impressed. Do you keep a list? And didn't they once show Opening Day '83 (Seaver's return)? Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:16 PM Here's a Mets Classic. Tom Seaver and Pete Rose on the Mike Douglas Show in 1977. Seaver starts talking about the trade about 4:00 Carrie Fisher stares at Seaver's crotch about 5:00. Mike Douglas is a sexist around 7:10. Rose is a jerk pretty much from 0:00. What's with the sherriff's badge pendant? Frayed Knot Jan 22 2009 02:18 PM Re: Mets Classics ="batmagadanleadoff":mqoaopu1]I'm exaggerating a little just to make a point here, but watching these Mets Classics reruns, you'd think that the Mets history consists of once beating the Yankees on a Matt Franco pinch hit, a hiatus, and then coming into full-time existence during --ugh!-- the Willie Randolph era.[/quote:mqoaopu1] It's not that the Willie Randolph era fascinates them so much it's that running games they already own the rights to is so much easier ... and profitable. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:19 PM ="batmagadanleadoff":1070xs1a]I'm impressed. Do you keep a list? And didn't they once show Opening Day '83 (Seaver's return)?[/quote:1070xs1a] Working from memory. I'd plotz if they ever showed Seaver's return. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to join Carrie Fisher. themetfairy Jan 22 2009 02:21 PM ="G-Fafif":3zka4awh] ="batmagadanleadoff":3zka4awh]I'm impressed. Do you keep a list? And didn't they once show Opening Day '83 (Seaver's return)?[/quote:3zka4awh] Working from memory. I'd plotz if they ever showed Seaver's return. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to join Carrie Fisher.[/quote:3zka4awh] SNY didn't show Seaver's return. A poster on YouTube named JPhillips41 had footage from Seaver's return until MLB made him take it down (bastages!). Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:22 PM More on the trade here. Around 1:30 Douglas presciently points out that Rose will attempt to play into his fifties. Gay innuendo between Seaver and Rose at 5:00. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:24 PM That Pete Rose, he was quite the "free agent". You ladies know what I'm talking about. Maybe you don't. Tom, could you explain it to Carrie? Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:26 PM I got the idea that JPhillips41 taped the Seaver return 25 years ago. metirish Jan 22 2009 02:26 PM Video constraints here at work mean that I can't partake in the Seaver crotch viewing , describe please what I am missing? batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 02:29 PM Re: Mets Classics ="Frayed Knot":2ivynf2i] ="batmagadanleadoff":2ivynf2i]I'm exaggerating a little just to make a point here, but watching these Mets Classics reruns, you'd think that the Mets history consists of once beating the Yankees on a Matt Franco pinch hit, a hiatus, and then coming into full-time existence during --ugh!-- the Willie Randolph era.[/quote:2ivynf2i] It's not that the Willie Randolph era fascinates them so much it's that running games they already own the rights to is so much easier ... and profitable.[/quote:2ivynf2i] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:35 PM I noticed that when Mets Weekly did wrapup stuff in '06 for best games of the year they didn't use anything that aired on Fox or ESPN; for example, the eleven-run inning game against the Cubs, which was a Sunday nighter, went unmentioned. Later, there was a show (under the UltiMET umbrella) devoted to great home runs of 2006 and they entirely skipped the three-HR inning at Wrigley with the two grand slams -- ESPN. Must be a rights fee issue, though you'd figure it's all part of the same consortium. metirish Jan 22 2009 02:36 PM Wasn't there an issue a few years ago regarding SNY and WPIX , something about SNY trying to buy the WPIX Mets games or a question about ownership. Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:38 PM ="metirish":23uzvoxc]Video constraints here at work mean that I can't partake in the Seaver crotch viewing , describe please what I am missing?[/quote:23uzvoxc] It's real, and it's spectacular. Frayed Knot Jan 22 2009 02:38 PM And, likewise, I suspect there's some negotiating to be done for the stuff that originally aired under the Cablevision banner. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 22 2009 02:39 PM Re: Mets Classics ="batmagadanleadoff":37dsjy4t] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast.[/quote:37dsjy4t] I asked a SNY guy about this and he said MLB owns the whole shebang these days -- or at least what of that shebang still exists. My brilliant idea of replaying Random Crappy Met Games from the past as cheap SNY programming seems like a pipe dream. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:40 PM The '86 San Diego game is Channel 9; '88 Clincher is SportsChannel; several of the later Bobby V games are FSNY; a little Fox network is thrown in. Very much a hodgepodge. Seems to me they can get done what they want to get done. Maybe a new year brings a new slate. Gwreck Jan 22 2009 02:44 PM ="G-Fafif":2hielg5a]The '86 San Diego game is Channel 9; '88 Clincher is SportsChannel; several of the later Bobby V games are FSNY; a little Fox network is thrown in. Very much a hodgepodge. Seems to me they can get done what they want to get done. Maybe a new year brings a new slate.[/quote:2hielg5a] I'm sure it's a money thing. And with MLB network starting now, I bet they're going to keep the first right to games they want rather than allowing SNY to air them. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 04:19 PM There are certain SNY shows that use almost no postseason footage even when it is called for. Instead you see still photos as if video has yet to be invented. That is most definitely rights fees-related. batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 06:10 PM Another "classic" tonight on SNY from the Wee Willie years -- the 2006 Mets come back from a 4-0 1st inning deficit to defeat Randy Johnson and the MFY's. You knew the Mets were in it as soon as the MFY's plated their fourth run of the first inning. This effectively took away Willie's cherished though moronic let's sac bunt in the first inning strategy and forced Lo Duca to hit away after Reyes led off the home first with a walk. Lo Duca singled and came around to score on Beltran's homer. I always rooted for a big first inning from Met opponents during the Randolph era. metirish Jan 22 2009 06:17 PM 4 to 3 now in the second.....come on you Mets.... Edgy DC Jan 23 2009 07:01 AM I don't want to defend Willie too much, but I went back and checked Lo Duca's record. He had 10 sacrifice hits. All but one of them was to advance a runner from second with no outs --- not to advance a guy from first. I think three of them were in the first, and the rest were in late and close situations. Fman99 Jan 23 2009 07:56 AM Re: Mets Classics ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2vnfd2jw] ="batmagadanleadoff":2vnfd2jw] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast.[/quote:2vnfd2jw] I asked a SNY guy about this and he said MLB owns the whole shebang these days -- or at least what of that shebang still exists. My brilliant idea of replaying Random Crappy Met Games from the past as cheap SNY programming seems like a pipe dream.[/quote:2vnfd2jw] I would love that. Monday-Thursday, 7 PM, put on random Mets games from last year. Did they win or lose? I don't remember, let's watch! Their original content is still just a lot of blather meant to distract from the fact that, yes, it is still winter outside and no, you are not watching baseball right now. Benjamin Grimm Jan 23 2009 08:24 AM I'd rather see a random game from 20 or 30 years ago than one from last season, but maybe that's just me. metirish Jan 23 2009 08:33 AM I like the random recent game idea , I don't tune into SNY much these days as I get my baseball information from MLB Network. G-Fafif Feb 09 2009 12:02 PM The 1969 World Series returns to SNY tonight through Thursday night at 7:30, Games Two through Five. Mets in four...those four. John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 09 2009 12:22 PM Longest. Offseason. Ever. Gwreck Feb 16 2009 10:39 PM MLB Network is showing a game that SNY hasn't aired: Opening Day '85. This Saturday at 11:00 AM. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 03:31 PM Grab some popcorn and fire up the ol� DeLorean Time Machine because tonight, SNY and the Mets dig deep into yesteryear�s archives to shake the cobwebs from your memories. Does anyone still remember the iPhone? How about the Iraqi war? Tonight, it�s another Mets Classic from 2007 -way way back when the uniforms were black and the President was white. It�s the Mets vs. the Rockies tonight, all over again. Don�t bother looking for Jane Jarvis. Also starring Willie �I Will Sac Bunt for Food� Randolph as the manager and Burt Mustin as the batboy Gwreck Mar 02 2009 04:35 PM I believe that game was won on a bunt, actually. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 04:45 PM ="Gwreck":2ktjqog1]I believe that game was won on a bunt, actually.[/quote:2ktjqog1] But was it a base-hit bunt, or the out-making kind of bunt that Willie loved? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 02 2009 05:47 PM Walk-off bunt single. Endy's second finest moment in blue y orange. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 06:09 PM I knew that. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 06:10 PM I was at this game. I have to say, Easley's HR was a much bigger thrill. It was the absolute last thing I expected. Guy on 3rd, tie game in the home 12th, you're gonna win somehow. Edgy DC Mar 02 2009 06:42 PM Damion Easley, still jobless. Gwreck Mar 02 2009 07:13 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3g7r2yy9]I was at this game. I have to say, Easley's HR was a much bigger thrill. It was the absolute last thing I expected.[/quote:3g7r2yy9] So was I. My recollection was that Easley was down to his final strike with 2 outs as well, with Fuentes pitching. We were packing up to go home when he hit it out. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 07:50 PM Just turned this on only to find they're showing Game 1 of the 06 NLCS instead. Gwreck Mar 02 2009 08:51 PM I can't remember them ever showing that before. One of Glavine's finest pitching performances as a Met. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 09:34 PM Oh, sorry. I meant the Dodgers series. I think that's the one where John Maine gets his butt saved by the Dodgers' 3rd base coach. themetfairy Mar 02 2009 09:42 PM Yes - the double play at home plate was a thing of beauty. batmagadanleadoff Mar 03 2009 01:15 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":38thmw2y]Just turned this on only to find they're showing Game 1 of the 06 NL[D]S instead.[/quote:38thmw2y] It's obvious that SNY read my post and decided to get with it and show some older games.

[Guest themetfairy]

I'd love to see Seaver's Imperfect Game, if the footage still exists.

[metirish]

IIRC that game( the Floyd game) was tagged as an " instant classic" .

[G-Fafif]

Dave O'Brien not being Gary Cohen calling Marlon Anderson is always a disappointment when it's on.

I counted recently and came up with 41 different Mets Classics/UltiMET Classics that have run in the course of SNY history. Nine were the '86 division clincher and eight postseason wins from that year; four were the '69 Series wins. Those seem to have been removed from circulation. Likewise the three '06 NLDS games. That's 16, leaving 25 games that seem to rotate, 14 of them pre-Snigh.

1986: The Padres game that ends on the 8-2-5 DP.
1988: Division clincher
1991: Darryl's return with Dodgers; Cone's 19-K game
1997: Mlicki shuts out MFYs
1998: Piazza's first game
1999: Matt Franco game; Ventura first game Grand Slam doubleheader; Leiter two-hitter to clinch Wild Card
2000: Benny hits grand slam in Tokyo; Ten-running inning
2001: Post-9/11 game
2005: Marlon Anderson game; Mister Koo game

Eleven from the SNY era:

2006: Pedro's 200th win; Brian Bannister/Barry Bonds [played to death in a way the others haven't been, even the ones that have been played as much -- it seems to have been retired finally]; Wright beats Mariano; Beltran 16th inning HR [which I don't recall seeing since 2006]; Beltran walkoff vs. Cardinals; division clincher

2007: Endy bunt to beat Rockies; Five-run ninth to beat Cubs; Delgado walkoff following Armando balks

2008: Tatis walkoff from May; Johan three-hit masterpiece from Setpember

ETA Mets Classics that occurred to me after the fact: Ventura, Koo, Leiter

[metirish]

You Sir are a wealth of knowledge.

[G-Fafif]

And/or watch a lot of TV.

[batmagadanleadoff]

But do you know how many times each game was shown?

[G-Fafif]

="batmagadanleadoff":2kvq7ghb]But do you know how many times each game was shown?[/quote:2kvq7ghb] Almost all of them have been shown too much to truly surprise, but on the other hand, a Mets win can't be shown nearly enough. When you can't be specific, at least be zen.

batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 02:12 PM

I'm impressed. Do you keep a list? And didn't they once show Opening Day '83 (Seaver's return)?

Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:16 PM

Here's a Mets Classic. Tom Seaver and Pete Rose on the Mike Douglas Show in 1977. Seaver starts talking about the trade about 4:00 Carrie Fisher stares at Seaver's crotch about 5:00. Mike Douglas is a sexist around 7:10. Rose is a jerk pretty much from 0:00. What's with the sherriff's badge pendant?

Frayed Knot Jan 22 2009 02:18 PM Re: Mets Classics

="batmagadanleadoff":mqoaopu1]I'm exaggerating a little just to make a point here, but watching these Mets Classics reruns, you'd think that the Mets history consists of once beating the Yankees on a Matt Franco pinch hit, a hiatus, and then coming into full-time existence during --ugh!-- the Willie Randolph era.[/quote:mqoaopu1] It's not that the Willie Randolph era fascinates them so much it's that running games they already own the rights to is so much easier ... and profitable. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:19 PM ="batmagadanleadoff":1070xs1a]I'm impressed. Do you keep a list? And didn't they once show Opening Day '83 (Seaver's return)?[/quote:1070xs1a] Working from memory. I'd plotz if they ever showed Seaver's return. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to join Carrie Fisher. themetfairy Jan 22 2009 02:21 PM ="G-Fafif":3zka4awh] ="batmagadanleadoff":3zka4awh]I'm impressed. Do you keep a list? And didn't they once show Opening Day '83 (Seaver's return)?[/quote:3zka4awh] Working from memory. I'd plotz if they ever showed Seaver's return. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to join Carrie Fisher.[/quote:3zka4awh] SNY didn't show Seaver's return. A poster on YouTube named JPhillips41 had footage from Seaver's return until MLB made him take it down (bastages!). Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:22 PM More on the trade here. Around 1:30 Douglas presciently points out that Rose will attempt to play into his fifties. Gay innuendo between Seaver and Rose at 5:00. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:24 PM That Pete Rose, he was quite the "free agent". You ladies know what I'm talking about. Maybe you don't. Tom, could you explain it to Carrie? Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:26 PM I got the idea that JPhillips41 taped the Seaver return 25 years ago. metirish Jan 22 2009 02:26 PM Video constraints here at work mean that I can't partake in the Seaver crotch viewing , describe please what I am missing? batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 02:29 PM Re: Mets Classics ="Frayed Knot":2ivynf2i] ="batmagadanleadoff":2ivynf2i]I'm exaggerating a little just to make a point here, but watching these Mets Classics reruns, you'd think that the Mets history consists of once beating the Yankees on a Matt Franco pinch hit, a hiatus, and then coming into full-time existence during --ugh!-- the Willie Randolph era.[/quote:2ivynf2i] It's not that the Willie Randolph era fascinates them so much it's that running games they already own the rights to is so much easier ... and profitable.[/quote:2ivynf2i] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:35 PM I noticed that when Mets Weekly did wrapup stuff in '06 for best games of the year they didn't use anything that aired on Fox or ESPN; for example, the eleven-run inning game against the Cubs, which was a Sunday nighter, went unmentioned. Later, there was a show (under the UltiMET umbrella) devoted to great home runs of 2006 and they entirely skipped the three-HR inning at Wrigley with the two grand slams -- ESPN. Must be a rights fee issue, though you'd figure it's all part of the same consortium. metirish Jan 22 2009 02:36 PM Wasn't there an issue a few years ago regarding SNY and WPIX , something about SNY trying to buy the WPIX Mets games or a question about ownership. Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:38 PM ="metirish":23uzvoxc]Video constraints here at work mean that I can't partake in the Seaver crotch viewing , describe please what I am missing?[/quote:23uzvoxc] It's real, and it's spectacular. Frayed Knot Jan 22 2009 02:38 PM And, likewise, I suspect there's some negotiating to be done for the stuff that originally aired under the Cablevision banner. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 22 2009 02:39 PM Re: Mets Classics ="batmagadanleadoff":37dsjy4t] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast.[/quote:37dsjy4t] I asked a SNY guy about this and he said MLB owns the whole shebang these days -- or at least what of that shebang still exists. My brilliant idea of replaying Random Crappy Met Games from the past as cheap SNY programming seems like a pipe dream. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:40 PM The '86 San Diego game is Channel 9; '88 Clincher is SportsChannel; several of the later Bobby V games are FSNY; a little Fox network is thrown in. Very much a hodgepodge. Seems to me they can get done what they want to get done. Maybe a new year brings a new slate. Gwreck Jan 22 2009 02:44 PM ="G-Fafif":2hielg5a]The '86 San Diego game is Channel 9; '88 Clincher is SportsChannel; several of the later Bobby V games are FSNY; a little Fox network is thrown in. Very much a hodgepodge. Seems to me they can get done what they want to get done. Maybe a new year brings a new slate.[/quote:2hielg5a] I'm sure it's a money thing. And with MLB network starting now, I bet they're going to keep the first right to games they want rather than allowing SNY to air them. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 04:19 PM There are certain SNY shows that use almost no postseason footage even when it is called for. Instead you see still photos as if video has yet to be invented. That is most definitely rights fees-related. batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 06:10 PM Another "classic" tonight on SNY from the Wee Willie years -- the 2006 Mets come back from a 4-0 1st inning deficit to defeat Randy Johnson and the MFY's. You knew the Mets were in it as soon as the MFY's plated their fourth run of the first inning. This effectively took away Willie's cherished though moronic let's sac bunt in the first inning strategy and forced Lo Duca to hit away after Reyes led off the home first with a walk. Lo Duca singled and came around to score on Beltran's homer. I always rooted for a big first inning from Met opponents during the Randolph era. metirish Jan 22 2009 06:17 PM 4 to 3 now in the second.....come on you Mets.... Edgy DC Jan 23 2009 07:01 AM I don't want to defend Willie too much, but I went back and checked Lo Duca's record. He had 10 sacrifice hits. All but one of them was to advance a runner from second with no outs --- not to advance a guy from first. I think three of them were in the first, and the rest were in late and close situations. Fman99 Jan 23 2009 07:56 AM Re: Mets Classics ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2vnfd2jw] ="batmagadanleadoff":2vnfd2jw] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast.[/quote:2vnfd2jw] I asked a SNY guy about this and he said MLB owns the whole shebang these days -- or at least what of that shebang still exists. My brilliant idea of replaying Random Crappy Met Games from the past as cheap SNY programming seems like a pipe dream.[/quote:2vnfd2jw] I would love that. Monday-Thursday, 7 PM, put on random Mets games from last year. Did they win or lose? I don't remember, let's watch! Their original content is still just a lot of blather meant to distract from the fact that, yes, it is still winter outside and no, you are not watching baseball right now. Benjamin Grimm Jan 23 2009 08:24 AM I'd rather see a random game from 20 or 30 years ago than one from last season, but maybe that's just me. metirish Jan 23 2009 08:33 AM I like the random recent game idea , I don't tune into SNY much these days as I get my baseball information from MLB Network. G-Fafif Feb 09 2009 12:02 PM The 1969 World Series returns to SNY tonight through Thursday night at 7:30, Games Two through Five. Mets in four...those four. John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 09 2009 12:22 PM Longest. Offseason. Ever. Gwreck Feb 16 2009 10:39 PM MLB Network is showing a game that SNY hasn't aired: Opening Day '85. This Saturday at 11:00 AM. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 03:31 PM Grab some popcorn and fire up the ol� DeLorean Time Machine because tonight, SNY and the Mets dig deep into yesteryear�s archives to shake the cobwebs from your memories. Does anyone still remember the iPhone? How about the Iraqi war? Tonight, it�s another Mets Classic from 2007 -way way back when the uniforms were black and the President was white. It�s the Mets vs. the Rockies tonight, all over again. Don�t bother looking for Jane Jarvis. Also starring Willie �I Will Sac Bunt for Food� Randolph as the manager and Burt Mustin as the batboy Gwreck Mar 02 2009 04:35 PM I believe that game was won on a bunt, actually. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 04:45 PM ="Gwreck":2ktjqog1]I believe that game was won on a bunt, actually.[/quote:2ktjqog1] But was it a base-hit bunt, or the out-making kind of bunt that Willie loved? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 02 2009 05:47 PM Walk-off bunt single. Endy's second finest moment in blue y orange. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 06:09 PM I knew that. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 06:10 PM I was at this game. I have to say, Easley's HR was a much bigger thrill. It was the absolute last thing I expected. Guy on 3rd, tie game in the home 12th, you're gonna win somehow. Edgy DC Mar 02 2009 06:42 PM Damion Easley, still jobless. Gwreck Mar 02 2009 07:13 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3g7r2yy9]I was at this game. I have to say, Easley's HR was a much bigger thrill. It was the absolute last thing I expected.[/quote:3g7r2yy9] So was I. My recollection was that Easley was down to his final strike with 2 outs as well, with Fuentes pitching. We were packing up to go home when he hit it out. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 07:50 PM Just turned this on only to find they're showing Game 1 of the 06 NLCS instead. Gwreck Mar 02 2009 08:51 PM I can't remember them ever showing that before. One of Glavine's finest pitching performances as a Met. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 09:34 PM Oh, sorry. I meant the Dodgers series. I think that's the one where John Maine gets his butt saved by the Dodgers' 3rd base coach. themetfairy Mar 02 2009 09:42 PM Yes - the double play at home plate was a thing of beauty. batmagadanleadoff Mar 03 2009 01:15 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":38thmw2y]Just turned this on only to find they're showing Game 1 of the 06 NL[D]S instead.[/quote:38thmw2y] It's obvious that SNY read my post and decided to get with it and show some older games.

[batmagadanleadoff]

I'm impressed. Do you keep a list? And didn't they once show Opening Day '83 (Seaver's return)?

[Guest Edgy DC]

Here's a Mets Classic. Tom Seaver and Pete Rose on the Mike Douglas Show in 1977.



Seaver starts talking about the trade about 4:00

Carrie Fisher stares at Seaver's crotch about 5:00.

Mike Douglas is a sexist around 7:10.

Rose is a jerk pretty much from 0:00. What's with the sherriff's badge pendant?

[Frayed Knot]

="batmagadanleadoff":mqoaopu1]I'm exaggerating a little just to make a point here, but watching these Mets Classics reruns, you'd think that the Mets history consists of once beating the Yankees on a Matt Franco pinch hit, a hiatus, and then coming into full-time existence during --ugh!-- the Willie Randolph era.[/quote:mqoaopu1] It's not that the Willie Randolph era fascinates them so much it's that running games they already own the rights to is so much easier ... and profitable.

G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:19 PM

="batmagadanleadoff":1070xs1a]I'm impressed. Do you keep a list? And didn't they once show Opening Day '83 (Seaver's return)?[/quote:1070xs1a] Working from memory. I'd plotz if they ever showed Seaver's return. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to join Carrie Fisher. themetfairy Jan 22 2009 02:21 PM ="G-Fafif":3zka4awh] ="batmagadanleadoff":3zka4awh]I'm impressed. Do you keep a list? And didn't they once show Opening Day '83 (Seaver's return)?[/quote:3zka4awh] Working from memory. I'd plotz if they ever showed Seaver's return. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to join Carrie Fisher.[/quote:3zka4awh] SNY didn't show Seaver's return. A poster on YouTube named JPhillips41 had footage from Seaver's return until MLB made him take it down (bastages!). Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:22 PM More on the trade here. Around 1:30 Douglas presciently points out that Rose will attempt to play into his fifties. Gay innuendo between Seaver and Rose at 5:00. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:24 PM That Pete Rose, he was quite the "free agent". You ladies know what I'm talking about. Maybe you don't. Tom, could you explain it to Carrie? Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:26 PM I got the idea that JPhillips41 taped the Seaver return 25 years ago. metirish Jan 22 2009 02:26 PM Video constraints here at work mean that I can't partake in the Seaver crotch viewing , describe please what I am missing? batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 02:29 PM Re: Mets Classics ="Frayed Knot":2ivynf2i] ="batmagadanleadoff":2ivynf2i]I'm exaggerating a little just to make a point here, but watching these Mets Classics reruns, you'd think that the Mets history consists of once beating the Yankees on a Matt Franco pinch hit, a hiatus, and then coming into full-time existence during --ugh!-- the Willie Randolph era.[/quote:2ivynf2i] It's not that the Willie Randolph era fascinates them so much it's that running games they already own the rights to is so much easier ... and profitable.[/quote:2ivynf2i] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:35 PM I noticed that when Mets Weekly did wrapup stuff in '06 for best games of the year they didn't use anything that aired on Fox or ESPN; for example, the eleven-run inning game against the Cubs, which was a Sunday nighter, went unmentioned. Later, there was a show (under the UltiMET umbrella) devoted to great home runs of 2006 and they entirely skipped the three-HR inning at Wrigley with the two grand slams -- ESPN. Must be a rights fee issue, though you'd figure it's all part of the same consortium. metirish Jan 22 2009 02:36 PM Wasn't there an issue a few years ago regarding SNY and WPIX , something about SNY trying to buy the WPIX Mets games or a question about ownership. Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:38 PM ="metirish":23uzvoxc]Video constraints here at work mean that I can't partake in the Seaver crotch viewing , describe please what I am missing?[/quote:23uzvoxc] It's real, and it's spectacular. Frayed Knot Jan 22 2009 02:38 PM And, likewise, I suspect there's some negotiating to be done for the stuff that originally aired under the Cablevision banner. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 22 2009 02:39 PM Re: Mets Classics ="batmagadanleadoff":37dsjy4t] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast.[/quote:37dsjy4t] I asked a SNY guy about this and he said MLB owns the whole shebang these days -- or at least what of that shebang still exists. My brilliant idea of replaying Random Crappy Met Games from the past as cheap SNY programming seems like a pipe dream. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:40 PM The '86 San Diego game is Channel 9; '88 Clincher is SportsChannel; several of the later Bobby V games are FSNY; a little Fox network is thrown in. Very much a hodgepodge. Seems to me they can get done what they want to get done. Maybe a new year brings a new slate. Gwreck Jan 22 2009 02:44 PM ="G-Fafif":2hielg5a]The '86 San Diego game is Channel 9; '88 Clincher is SportsChannel; several of the later Bobby V games are FSNY; a little Fox network is thrown in. Very much a hodgepodge. Seems to me they can get done what they want to get done. Maybe a new year brings a new slate.[/quote:2hielg5a] I'm sure it's a money thing. And with MLB network starting now, I bet they're going to keep the first right to games they want rather than allowing SNY to air them. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 04:19 PM There are certain SNY shows that use almost no postseason footage even when it is called for. Instead you see still photos as if video has yet to be invented. That is most definitely rights fees-related. batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 06:10 PM Another "classic" tonight on SNY from the Wee Willie years -- the 2006 Mets come back from a 4-0 1st inning deficit to defeat Randy Johnson and the MFY's. You knew the Mets were in it as soon as the MFY's plated their fourth run of the first inning. This effectively took away Willie's cherished though moronic let's sac bunt in the first inning strategy and forced Lo Duca to hit away after Reyes led off the home first with a walk. Lo Duca singled and came around to score on Beltran's homer. I always rooted for a big first inning from Met opponents during the Randolph era. metirish Jan 22 2009 06:17 PM 4 to 3 now in the second.....come on you Mets.... Edgy DC Jan 23 2009 07:01 AM I don't want to defend Willie too much, but I went back and checked Lo Duca's record. He had 10 sacrifice hits. All but one of them was to advance a runner from second with no outs --- not to advance a guy from first. I think three of them were in the first, and the rest were in late and close situations. Fman99 Jan 23 2009 07:56 AM Re: Mets Classics ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2vnfd2jw] ="batmagadanleadoff":2vnfd2jw] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast.[/quote:2vnfd2jw] I asked a SNY guy about this and he said MLB owns the whole shebang these days -- or at least what of that shebang still exists. My brilliant idea of replaying Random Crappy Met Games from the past as cheap SNY programming seems like a pipe dream.[/quote:2vnfd2jw] I would love that. Monday-Thursday, 7 PM, put on random Mets games from last year. Did they win or lose? I don't remember, let's watch! Their original content is still just a lot of blather meant to distract from the fact that, yes, it is still winter outside and no, you are not watching baseball right now. Benjamin Grimm Jan 23 2009 08:24 AM I'd rather see a random game from 20 or 30 years ago than one from last season, but maybe that's just me. metirish Jan 23 2009 08:33 AM I like the random recent game idea , I don't tune into SNY much these days as I get my baseball information from MLB Network. G-Fafif Feb 09 2009 12:02 PM The 1969 World Series returns to SNY tonight through Thursday night at 7:30, Games Two through Five. Mets in four...those four. John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 09 2009 12:22 PM Longest. Offseason. Ever. Gwreck Feb 16 2009 10:39 PM MLB Network is showing a game that SNY hasn't aired: Opening Day '85. This Saturday at 11:00 AM. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 03:31 PM Grab some popcorn and fire up the ol� DeLorean Time Machine because tonight, SNY and the Mets dig deep into yesteryear�s archives to shake the cobwebs from your memories. Does anyone still remember the iPhone? How about the Iraqi war? Tonight, it�s another Mets Classic from 2007 -way way back when the uniforms were black and the President was white. It�s the Mets vs. the Rockies tonight, all over again. Don�t bother looking for Jane Jarvis. Also starring Willie �I Will Sac Bunt for Food� Randolph as the manager and Burt Mustin as the batboy Gwreck Mar 02 2009 04:35 PM I believe that game was won on a bunt, actually. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 04:45 PM ="Gwreck":2ktjqog1]I believe that game was won on a bunt, actually.[/quote:2ktjqog1] But was it a base-hit bunt, or the out-making kind of bunt that Willie loved? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 02 2009 05:47 PM Walk-off bunt single. Endy's second finest moment in blue y orange. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 06:09 PM I knew that. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 06:10 PM I was at this game. I have to say, Easley's HR was a much bigger thrill. It was the absolute last thing I expected. Guy on 3rd, tie game in the home 12th, you're gonna win somehow. Edgy DC Mar 02 2009 06:42 PM Damion Easley, still jobless. Gwreck Mar 02 2009 07:13 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3g7r2yy9]I was at this game. I have to say, Easley's HR was a much bigger thrill. It was the absolute last thing I expected.[/quote:3g7r2yy9] So was I. My recollection was that Easley was down to his final strike with 2 outs as well, with Fuentes pitching. We were packing up to go home when he hit it out. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 07:50 PM Just turned this on only to find they're showing Game 1 of the 06 NLCS instead. Gwreck Mar 02 2009 08:51 PM I can't remember them ever showing that before. One of Glavine's finest pitching performances as a Met. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 09:34 PM Oh, sorry. I meant the Dodgers series. I think that's the one where John Maine gets his butt saved by the Dodgers' 3rd base coach. themetfairy Mar 02 2009 09:42 PM Yes - the double play at home plate was a thing of beauty. batmagadanleadoff Mar 03 2009 01:15 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":38thmw2y]Just turned this on only to find they're showing Game 1 of the 06 NL[D]S instead.[/quote:38thmw2y] It's obvious that SNY read my post and decided to get with it and show some older games.

[G-Fafif]

="batmagadanleadoff":1070xs1a]I'm impressed. Do you keep a list? And didn't they once show Opening Day '83 (Seaver's return)?[/quote:1070xs1a] Working from memory. I'd plotz if they ever showed Seaver's return. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to join Carrie Fisher.

themetfairy Jan 22 2009 02:21 PM

="G-Fafif":3zka4awh] ="batmagadanleadoff":3zka4awh]I'm impressed. Do you keep a list? And didn't they once show Opening Day '83 (Seaver's return)?[/quote:3zka4awh] Working from memory. I'd plotz if they ever showed Seaver's return. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to join Carrie Fisher.[/quote:3zka4awh] SNY didn't show Seaver's return. A poster on YouTube named JPhillips41 had footage from Seaver's return until MLB made him take it down (bastages!). Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:22 PM More on the trade here. Around 1:30 Douglas presciently points out that Rose will attempt to play into his fifties. Gay innuendo between Seaver and Rose at 5:00. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:24 PM That Pete Rose, he was quite the "free agent". You ladies know what I'm talking about. Maybe you don't. Tom, could you explain it to Carrie? Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:26 PM I got the idea that JPhillips41 taped the Seaver return 25 years ago. metirish Jan 22 2009 02:26 PM Video constraints here at work mean that I can't partake in the Seaver crotch viewing , describe please what I am missing? batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 02:29 PM Re: Mets Classics ="Frayed Knot":2ivynf2i] ="batmagadanleadoff":2ivynf2i]I'm exaggerating a little just to make a point here, but watching these Mets Classics reruns, you'd think that the Mets history consists of once beating the Yankees on a Matt Franco pinch hit, a hiatus, and then coming into full-time existence during --ugh!-- the Willie Randolph era.[/quote:2ivynf2i] It's not that the Willie Randolph era fascinates them so much it's that running games they already own the rights to is so much easier ... and profitable.[/quote:2ivynf2i] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:35 PM I noticed that when Mets Weekly did wrapup stuff in '06 for best games of the year they didn't use anything that aired on Fox or ESPN; for example, the eleven-run inning game against the Cubs, which was a Sunday nighter, went unmentioned. Later, there was a show (under the UltiMET umbrella) devoted to great home runs of 2006 and they entirely skipped the three-HR inning at Wrigley with the two grand slams -- ESPN. Must be a rights fee issue, though you'd figure it's all part of the same consortium. metirish Jan 22 2009 02:36 PM Wasn't there an issue a few years ago regarding SNY and WPIX , something about SNY trying to buy the WPIX Mets games or a question about ownership. Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:38 PM ="metirish":23uzvoxc]Video constraints here at work mean that I can't partake in the Seaver crotch viewing , describe please what I am missing?[/quote:23uzvoxc] It's real, and it's spectacular. Frayed Knot Jan 22 2009 02:38 PM And, likewise, I suspect there's some negotiating to be done for the stuff that originally aired under the Cablevision banner. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 22 2009 02:39 PM Re: Mets Classics ="batmagadanleadoff":37dsjy4t] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast.[/quote:37dsjy4t] I asked a SNY guy about this and he said MLB owns the whole shebang these days -- or at least what of that shebang still exists. My brilliant idea of replaying Random Crappy Met Games from the past as cheap SNY programming seems like a pipe dream. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:40 PM The '86 San Diego game is Channel 9; '88 Clincher is SportsChannel; several of the later Bobby V games are FSNY; a little Fox network is thrown in. Very much a hodgepodge. Seems to me they can get done what they want to get done. Maybe a new year brings a new slate. Gwreck Jan 22 2009 02:44 PM ="G-Fafif":2hielg5a]The '86 San Diego game is Channel 9; '88 Clincher is SportsChannel; several of the later Bobby V games are FSNY; a little Fox network is thrown in. Very much a hodgepodge. Seems to me they can get done what they want to get done. Maybe a new year brings a new slate.[/quote:2hielg5a] I'm sure it's a money thing. And with MLB network starting now, I bet they're going to keep the first right to games they want rather than allowing SNY to air them. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 04:19 PM There are certain SNY shows that use almost no postseason footage even when it is called for. Instead you see still photos as if video has yet to be invented. That is most definitely rights fees-related. batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 06:10 PM Another "classic" tonight on SNY from the Wee Willie years -- the 2006 Mets come back from a 4-0 1st inning deficit to defeat Randy Johnson and the MFY's. You knew the Mets were in it as soon as the MFY's plated their fourth run of the first inning. This effectively took away Willie's cherished though moronic let's sac bunt in the first inning strategy and forced Lo Duca to hit away after Reyes led off the home first with a walk. Lo Duca singled and came around to score on Beltran's homer. I always rooted for a big first inning from Met opponents during the Randolph era. metirish Jan 22 2009 06:17 PM 4 to 3 now in the second.....come on you Mets.... Edgy DC Jan 23 2009 07:01 AM I don't want to defend Willie too much, but I went back and checked Lo Duca's record. He had 10 sacrifice hits. All but one of them was to advance a runner from second with no outs --- not to advance a guy from first. I think three of them were in the first, and the rest were in late and close situations. Fman99 Jan 23 2009 07:56 AM Re: Mets Classics ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2vnfd2jw] ="batmagadanleadoff":2vnfd2jw] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast.[/quote:2vnfd2jw] I asked a SNY guy about this and he said MLB owns the whole shebang these days -- or at least what of that shebang still exists. My brilliant idea of replaying Random Crappy Met Games from the past as cheap SNY programming seems like a pipe dream.[/quote:2vnfd2jw] I would love that. Monday-Thursday, 7 PM, put on random Mets games from last year. Did they win or lose? I don't remember, let's watch! Their original content is still just a lot of blather meant to distract from the fact that, yes, it is still winter outside and no, you are not watching baseball right now. Benjamin Grimm Jan 23 2009 08:24 AM I'd rather see a random game from 20 or 30 years ago than one from last season, but maybe that's just me. metirish Jan 23 2009 08:33 AM I like the random recent game idea , I don't tune into SNY much these days as I get my baseball information from MLB Network. G-Fafif Feb 09 2009 12:02 PM The 1969 World Series returns to SNY tonight through Thursday night at 7:30, Games Two through Five. Mets in four...those four. John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 09 2009 12:22 PM Longest. Offseason. Ever. Gwreck Feb 16 2009 10:39 PM MLB Network is showing a game that SNY hasn't aired: Opening Day '85. This Saturday at 11:00 AM. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 03:31 PM Grab some popcorn and fire up the ol� DeLorean Time Machine because tonight, SNY and the Mets dig deep into yesteryear�s archives to shake the cobwebs from your memories. Does anyone still remember the iPhone? How about the Iraqi war? Tonight, it�s another Mets Classic from 2007 -way way back when the uniforms were black and the President was white. It�s the Mets vs. the Rockies tonight, all over again. Don�t bother looking for Jane Jarvis. Also starring Willie �I Will Sac Bunt for Food� Randolph as the manager and Burt Mustin as the batboy Gwreck Mar 02 2009 04:35 PM I believe that game was won on a bunt, actually. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 04:45 PM ="Gwreck":2ktjqog1]I believe that game was won on a bunt, actually.[/quote:2ktjqog1] But was it a base-hit bunt, or the out-making kind of bunt that Willie loved? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 02 2009 05:47 PM Walk-off bunt single. Endy's second finest moment in blue y orange. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 06:09 PM I knew that. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 06:10 PM I was at this game. I have to say, Easley's HR was a much bigger thrill. It was the absolute last thing I expected. Guy on 3rd, tie game in the home 12th, you're gonna win somehow. Edgy DC Mar 02 2009 06:42 PM Damion Easley, still jobless. Gwreck Mar 02 2009 07:13 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3g7r2yy9]I was at this game. I have to say, Easley's HR was a much bigger thrill. It was the absolute last thing I expected.[/quote:3g7r2yy9] So was I. My recollection was that Easley was down to his final strike with 2 outs as well, with Fuentes pitching. We were packing up to go home when he hit it out. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 07:50 PM Just turned this on only to find they're showing Game 1 of the 06 NLCS instead. Gwreck Mar 02 2009 08:51 PM I can't remember them ever showing that before. One of Glavine's finest pitching performances as a Met. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 09:34 PM Oh, sorry. I meant the Dodgers series. I think that's the one where John Maine gets his butt saved by the Dodgers' 3rd base coach. themetfairy Mar 02 2009 09:42 PM Yes - the double play at home plate was a thing of beauty. batmagadanleadoff Mar 03 2009 01:15 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":38thmw2y]Just turned this on only to find they're showing Game 1 of the 06 NL[D]S instead.[/quote:38thmw2y] It's obvious that SNY read my post and decided to get with it and show some older games.

[Guest themetfairy]

="G-Fafif":3zka4awh] ="batmagadanleadoff":3zka4awh]I'm impressed. Do you keep a list? And didn't they once show Opening Day '83 (Seaver's return)?[/quote:3zka4awh] Working from memory. I'd plotz if they ever showed Seaver's return. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to join Carrie Fisher.[/quote:3zka4awh] SNY didn't show Seaver's return. A poster on YouTube named JPhillips41 had footage from Seaver's return until MLB made him take it down (bastages!). Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:22 PM More on the trade here. Around 1:30 Douglas presciently points out that Rose will attempt to play into his fifties. Gay innuendo between Seaver and Rose at 5:00. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:24 PM That Pete Rose, he was quite the "free agent". You ladies know what I'm talking about. Maybe you don't. Tom, could you explain it to Carrie? Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:26 PM I got the idea that JPhillips41 taped the Seaver return 25 years ago. metirish Jan 22 2009 02:26 PM Video constraints here at work mean that I can't partake in the Seaver crotch viewing , describe please what I am missing? batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 02:29 PM Re: Mets Classics ="Frayed Knot":2ivynf2i] ="batmagadanleadoff":2ivynf2i]I'm exaggerating a little just to make a point here, but watching these Mets Classics reruns, you'd think that the Mets history consists of once beating the Yankees on a Matt Franco pinch hit, a hiatus, and then coming into full-time existence during --ugh!-- the Willie Randolph era.[/quote:2ivynf2i] It's not that the Willie Randolph era fascinates them so much it's that running games they already own the rights to is so much easier ... and profitable.[/quote:2ivynf2i] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:35 PM I noticed that when Mets Weekly did wrapup stuff in '06 for best games of the year they didn't use anything that aired on Fox or ESPN; for example, the eleven-run inning game against the Cubs, which was a Sunday nighter, went unmentioned. Later, there was a show (under the UltiMET umbrella) devoted to great home runs of 2006 and they entirely skipped the three-HR inning at Wrigley with the two grand slams -- ESPN. Must be a rights fee issue, though you'd figure it's all part of the same consortium. metirish Jan 22 2009 02:36 PM Wasn't there an issue a few years ago regarding SNY and WPIX , something about SNY trying to buy the WPIX Mets games or a question about ownership. Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:38 PM ="metirish":23uzvoxc]Video constraints here at work mean that I can't partake in the Seaver crotch viewing , describe please what I am missing?[/quote:23uzvoxc] It's real, and it's spectacular. Frayed Knot Jan 22 2009 02:38 PM And, likewise, I suspect there's some negotiating to be done for the stuff that originally aired under the Cablevision banner. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 22 2009 02:39 PM Re: Mets Classics ="batmagadanleadoff":37dsjy4t] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast.[/quote:37dsjy4t] I asked a SNY guy about this and he said MLB owns the whole shebang these days -- or at least what of that shebang still exists. My brilliant idea of replaying Random Crappy Met Games from the past as cheap SNY programming seems like a pipe dream. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:40 PM The '86 San Diego game is Channel 9; '88 Clincher is SportsChannel; several of the later Bobby V games are FSNY; a little Fox network is thrown in. Very much a hodgepodge. Seems to me they can get done what they want to get done. Maybe a new year brings a new slate. Gwreck Jan 22 2009 02:44 PM ="G-Fafif":2hielg5a]The '86 San Diego game is Channel 9; '88 Clincher is SportsChannel; several of the later Bobby V games are FSNY; a little Fox network is thrown in. Very much a hodgepodge. Seems to me they can get done what they want to get done. Maybe a new year brings a new slate.[/quote:2hielg5a] I'm sure it's a money thing. And with MLB network starting now, I bet they're going to keep the first right to games they want rather than allowing SNY to air them. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 04:19 PM There are certain SNY shows that use almost no postseason footage even when it is called for. Instead you see still photos as if video has yet to be invented. That is most definitely rights fees-related. batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 06:10 PM Another "classic" tonight on SNY from the Wee Willie years -- the 2006 Mets come back from a 4-0 1st inning deficit to defeat Randy Johnson and the MFY's. You knew the Mets were in it as soon as the MFY's plated their fourth run of the first inning. This effectively took away Willie's cherished though moronic let's sac bunt in the first inning strategy and forced Lo Duca to hit away after Reyes led off the home first with a walk. Lo Duca singled and came around to score on Beltran's homer. I always rooted for a big first inning from Met opponents during the Randolph era. metirish Jan 22 2009 06:17 PM 4 to 3 now in the second.....come on you Mets.... Edgy DC Jan 23 2009 07:01 AM I don't want to defend Willie too much, but I went back and checked Lo Duca's record. He had 10 sacrifice hits. All but one of them was to advance a runner from second with no outs --- not to advance a guy from first. I think three of them were in the first, and the rest were in late and close situations. Fman99 Jan 23 2009 07:56 AM Re: Mets Classics ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2vnfd2jw] ="batmagadanleadoff":2vnfd2jw] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast.[/quote:2vnfd2jw] I asked a SNY guy about this and he said MLB owns the whole shebang these days -- or at least what of that shebang still exists. My brilliant idea of replaying Random Crappy Met Games from the past as cheap SNY programming seems like a pipe dream.[/quote:2vnfd2jw] I would love that. Monday-Thursday, 7 PM, put on random Mets games from last year. Did they win or lose? I don't remember, let's watch! Their original content is still just a lot of blather meant to distract from the fact that, yes, it is still winter outside and no, you are not watching baseball right now. Benjamin Grimm Jan 23 2009 08:24 AM I'd rather see a random game from 20 or 30 years ago than one from last season, but maybe that's just me. metirish Jan 23 2009 08:33 AM I like the random recent game idea , I don't tune into SNY much these days as I get my baseball information from MLB Network. G-Fafif Feb 09 2009 12:02 PM The 1969 World Series returns to SNY tonight through Thursday night at 7:30, Games Two through Five. Mets in four...those four. John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 09 2009 12:22 PM Longest. Offseason. Ever. Gwreck Feb 16 2009 10:39 PM MLB Network is showing a game that SNY hasn't aired: Opening Day '85. This Saturday at 11:00 AM. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 03:31 PM Grab some popcorn and fire up the ol� DeLorean Time Machine because tonight, SNY and the Mets dig deep into yesteryear�s archives to shake the cobwebs from your memories. Does anyone still remember the iPhone? How about the Iraqi war? Tonight, it�s another Mets Classic from 2007 -way way back when the uniforms were black and the President was white. It�s the Mets vs. the Rockies tonight, all over again. Don�t bother looking for Jane Jarvis. Also starring Willie �I Will Sac Bunt for Food� Randolph as the manager and Burt Mustin as the batboy Gwreck Mar 02 2009 04:35 PM I believe that game was won on a bunt, actually. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 04:45 PM ="Gwreck":2ktjqog1]I believe that game was won on a bunt, actually.[/quote:2ktjqog1] But was it a base-hit bunt, or the out-making kind of bunt that Willie loved? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 02 2009 05:47 PM Walk-off bunt single. Endy's second finest moment in blue y orange. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 06:09 PM I knew that. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 06:10 PM I was at this game. I have to say, Easley's HR was a much bigger thrill. It was the absolute last thing I expected. Guy on 3rd, tie game in the home 12th, you're gonna win somehow. Edgy DC Mar 02 2009 06:42 PM Damion Easley, still jobless. Gwreck Mar 02 2009 07:13 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3g7r2yy9]I was at this game. I have to say, Easley's HR was a much bigger thrill. It was the absolute last thing I expected.[/quote:3g7r2yy9] So was I. My recollection was that Easley was down to his final strike with 2 outs as well, with Fuentes pitching. We were packing up to go home when he hit it out. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 07:50 PM Just turned this on only to find they're showing Game 1 of the 06 NLCS instead. Gwreck Mar 02 2009 08:51 PM I can't remember them ever showing that before. One of Glavine's finest pitching performances as a Met. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 09:34 PM Oh, sorry. I meant the Dodgers series. I think that's the one where John Maine gets his butt saved by the Dodgers' 3rd base coach. themetfairy Mar 02 2009 09:42 PM Yes - the double play at home plate was a thing of beauty. batmagadanleadoff Mar 03 2009 01:15 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":38thmw2y]Just turned this on only to find they're showing Game 1 of the 06 NL[D]S instead.[/quote:38thmw2y] It's obvious that SNY read my post and decided to get with it and show some older games.

[Guest Edgy DC]

More on the trade here.



Around 1:30 Douglas presciently points out that Rose will attempt to play into his fifties.

Gay innuendo between Seaver and Rose at 5:00.

[G-Fafif]

That Pete Rose, he was quite the "free agent". You ladies know what I'm talking about.

Maybe you don't. Tom, could you explain it to Carrie?

[Guest Edgy DC]

I got the idea that JPhillips41 taped the Seaver return 25 years ago.

[metirish]

Video constraints here at work mean that I can't partake in the Seaver crotch viewing , describe please what I am missing?

[batmagadanleadoff]

="Frayed Knot":2ivynf2i] ="batmagadanleadoff":2ivynf2i]I'm exaggerating a little just to make a point here, but watching these Mets Classics reruns, you'd think that the Mets history consists of once beating the Yankees on a Matt Franco pinch hit, a hiatus, and then coming into full-time existence during --ugh!-- the Willie Randolph era.[/quote:2ivynf2i] It's not that the Willie Randolph era fascinates them so much it's that running games they already own the rights to is so much easier ... and profitable.[/quote:2ivynf2i] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:35 PM I noticed that when Mets Weekly did wrapup stuff in '06 for best games of the year they didn't use anything that aired on Fox or ESPN; for example, the eleven-run inning game against the Cubs, which was a Sunday nighter, went unmentioned. Later, there was a show (under the UltiMET umbrella) devoted to great home runs of 2006 and they entirely skipped the three-HR inning at Wrigley with the two grand slams -- ESPN. Must be a rights fee issue, though you'd figure it's all part of the same consortium. metirish Jan 22 2009 02:36 PM Wasn't there an issue a few years ago regarding SNY and WPIX , something about SNY trying to buy the WPIX Mets games or a question about ownership. Edgy DC Jan 22 2009 02:38 PM ="metirish":23uzvoxc]Video constraints here at work mean that I can't partake in the Seaver crotch viewing , describe please what I am missing?[/quote:23uzvoxc] It's real, and it's spectacular. Frayed Knot Jan 22 2009 02:38 PM And, likewise, I suspect there's some negotiating to be done for the stuff that originally aired under the Cablevision banner. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 22 2009 02:39 PM Re: Mets Classics ="batmagadanleadoff":37dsjy4t] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast.[/quote:37dsjy4t] I asked a SNY guy about this and he said MLB owns the whole shebang these days -- or at least what of that shebang still exists. My brilliant idea of replaying Random Crappy Met Games from the past as cheap SNY programming seems like a pipe dream. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:40 PM The '86 San Diego game is Channel 9; '88 Clincher is SportsChannel; several of the later Bobby V games are FSNY; a little Fox network is thrown in. Very much a hodgepodge. Seems to me they can get done what they want to get done. Maybe a new year brings a new slate. Gwreck Jan 22 2009 02:44 PM ="G-Fafif":2hielg5a]The '86 San Diego game is Channel 9; '88 Clincher is SportsChannel; several of the later Bobby V games are FSNY; a little Fox network is thrown in. Very much a hodgepodge. Seems to me they can get done what they want to get done. Maybe a new year brings a new slate.[/quote:2hielg5a] I'm sure it's a money thing. And with MLB network starting now, I bet they're going to keep the first right to games they want rather than allowing SNY to air them. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 04:19 PM There are certain SNY shows that use almost no postseason footage even when it is called for. Instead you see still photos as if video has yet to be invented. That is most definitely rights fees-related. batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 06:10 PM Another "classic" tonight on SNY from the Wee Willie years -- the 2006 Mets come back from a 4-0 1st inning deficit to defeat Randy Johnson and the MFY's. You knew the Mets were in it as soon as the MFY's plated their fourth run of the first inning. This effectively took away Willie's cherished though moronic let's sac bunt in the first inning strategy and forced Lo Duca to hit away after Reyes led off the home first with a walk. Lo Duca singled and came around to score on Beltran's homer. I always rooted for a big first inning from Met opponents during the Randolph era. metirish Jan 22 2009 06:17 PM 4 to 3 now in the second.....come on you Mets.... Edgy DC Jan 23 2009 07:01 AM I don't want to defend Willie too much, but I went back and checked Lo Duca's record. He had 10 sacrifice hits. All but one of them was to advance a runner from second with no outs --- not to advance a guy from first. I think three of them were in the first, and the rest were in late and close situations. Fman99 Jan 23 2009 07:56 AM Re: Mets Classics ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2vnfd2jw] ="batmagadanleadoff":2vnfd2jw] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast.[/quote:2vnfd2jw] I asked a SNY guy about this and he said MLB owns the whole shebang these days -- or at least what of that shebang still exists. My brilliant idea of replaying Random Crappy Met Games from the past as cheap SNY programming seems like a pipe dream.[/quote:2vnfd2jw] I would love that. Monday-Thursday, 7 PM, put on random Mets games from last year. Did they win or lose? I don't remember, let's watch! Their original content is still just a lot of blather meant to distract from the fact that, yes, it is still winter outside and no, you are not watching baseball right now. Benjamin Grimm Jan 23 2009 08:24 AM I'd rather see a random game from 20 or 30 years ago than one from last season, but maybe that's just me. metirish Jan 23 2009 08:33 AM I like the random recent game idea , I don't tune into SNY much these days as I get my baseball information from MLB Network. G-Fafif Feb 09 2009 12:02 PM The 1969 World Series returns to SNY tonight through Thursday night at 7:30, Games Two through Five. Mets in four...those four. John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 09 2009 12:22 PM Longest. Offseason. Ever. Gwreck Feb 16 2009 10:39 PM MLB Network is showing a game that SNY hasn't aired: Opening Day '85. This Saturday at 11:00 AM. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 03:31 PM Grab some popcorn and fire up the ol� DeLorean Time Machine because tonight, SNY and the Mets dig deep into yesteryear�s archives to shake the cobwebs from your memories. Does anyone still remember the iPhone? How about the Iraqi war? Tonight, it�s another Mets Classic from 2007 -way way back when the uniforms were black and the President was white. It�s the Mets vs. the Rockies tonight, all over again. Don�t bother looking for Jane Jarvis. Also starring Willie �I Will Sac Bunt for Food� Randolph as the manager and Burt Mustin as the batboy Gwreck Mar 02 2009 04:35 PM I believe that game was won on a bunt, actually. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 04:45 PM ="Gwreck":2ktjqog1]I believe that game was won on a bunt, actually.[/quote:2ktjqog1] But was it a base-hit bunt, or the out-making kind of bunt that Willie loved? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 02 2009 05:47 PM Walk-off bunt single. Endy's second finest moment in blue y orange. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 06:09 PM I knew that. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 06:10 PM I was at this game. I have to say, Easley's HR was a much bigger thrill. It was the absolute last thing I expected. Guy on 3rd, tie game in the home 12th, you're gonna win somehow. Edgy DC Mar 02 2009 06:42 PM Damion Easley, still jobless. Gwreck Mar 02 2009 07:13 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3g7r2yy9]I was at this game. I have to say, Easley's HR was a much bigger thrill. It was the absolute last thing I expected.[/quote:3g7r2yy9] So was I. My recollection was that Easley was down to his final strike with 2 outs as well, with Fuentes pitching. We were packing up to go home when he hit it out. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 07:50 PM Just turned this on only to find they're showing Game 1 of the 06 NLCS instead. Gwreck Mar 02 2009 08:51 PM I can't remember them ever showing that before. One of Glavine's finest pitching performances as a Met. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 09:34 PM Oh, sorry. I meant the Dodgers series. I think that's the one where John Maine gets his butt saved by the Dodgers' 3rd base coach. themetfairy Mar 02 2009 09:42 PM Yes - the double play at home plate was a thing of beauty. batmagadanleadoff Mar 03 2009 01:15 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":38thmw2y]Just turned this on only to find they're showing Game 1 of the 06 NL[D]S instead.[/quote:38thmw2y] It's obvious that SNY read my post and decided to get with it and show some older games.

[G-Fafif]

I noticed that when Mets Weekly did wrapup stuff in '06 for best games of the year they didn't use anything that aired on Fox or ESPN; for example, the eleven-run inning game against the Cubs, which was a Sunday nighter, went unmentioned. Later, there was a show (under the UltiMET umbrella) devoted to great home runs of 2006 and they entirely skipped the three-HR inning at Wrigley with the two grand slams -- ESPN. Must be a rights fee issue, though you'd figure it's all part of the same consortium.

[metirish]

Wasn't there an issue a few years ago regarding SNY and WPIX , something about SNY trying to buy the WPIX Mets games or a question about ownership.

[Guest Edgy DC]

="metirish":23uzvoxc]Video constraints here at work mean that I can't partake in the Seaver crotch viewing , describe please what I am missing?[/quote:23uzvoxc] It's real, and it's spectacular.

Frayed Knot Jan 22 2009 02:38 PM

And, likewise, I suspect there's some negotiating to be done for the stuff that originally aired under the Cablevision banner.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 22 2009 02:39 PM Re: Mets Classics

="batmagadanleadoff":37dsjy4t] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast.[/quote:37dsjy4t] I asked a SNY guy about this and he said MLB owns the whole shebang these days -- or at least what of that shebang still exists. My brilliant idea of replaying Random Crappy Met Games from the past as cheap SNY programming seems like a pipe dream. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:40 PM The '86 San Diego game is Channel 9; '88 Clincher is SportsChannel; several of the later Bobby V games are FSNY; a little Fox network is thrown in. Very much a hodgepodge. Seems to me they can get done what they want to get done. Maybe a new year brings a new slate. Gwreck Jan 22 2009 02:44 PM ="G-Fafif":2hielg5a]The '86 San Diego game is Channel 9; '88 Clincher is SportsChannel; several of the later Bobby V games are FSNY; a little Fox network is thrown in. Very much a hodgepodge. Seems to me they can get done what they want to get done. Maybe a new year brings a new slate.[/quote:2hielg5a] I'm sure it's a money thing. And with MLB network starting now, I bet they're going to keep the first right to games they want rather than allowing SNY to air them. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 04:19 PM There are certain SNY shows that use almost no postseason footage even when it is called for. Instead you see still photos as if video has yet to be invented. That is most definitely rights fees-related. batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 06:10 PM Another "classic" tonight on SNY from the Wee Willie years -- the 2006 Mets come back from a 4-0 1st inning deficit to defeat Randy Johnson and the MFY's. You knew the Mets were in it as soon as the MFY's plated their fourth run of the first inning. This effectively took away Willie's cherished though moronic let's sac bunt in the first inning strategy and forced Lo Duca to hit away after Reyes led off the home first with a walk. Lo Duca singled and came around to score on Beltran's homer. I always rooted for a big first inning from Met opponents during the Randolph era. metirish Jan 22 2009 06:17 PM 4 to 3 now in the second.....come on you Mets.... Edgy DC Jan 23 2009 07:01 AM I don't want to defend Willie too much, but I went back and checked Lo Duca's record. He had 10 sacrifice hits. All but one of them was to advance a runner from second with no outs --- not to advance a guy from first. I think three of them were in the first, and the rest were in late and close situations. Fman99 Jan 23 2009 07:56 AM Re: Mets Classics ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2vnfd2jw] ="batmagadanleadoff":2vnfd2jw] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast.[/quote:2vnfd2jw] I asked a SNY guy about this and he said MLB owns the whole shebang these days -- or at least what of that shebang still exists. My brilliant idea of replaying Random Crappy Met Games from the past as cheap SNY programming seems like a pipe dream.[/quote:2vnfd2jw] I would love that. Monday-Thursday, 7 PM, put on random Mets games from last year. Did they win or lose? I don't remember, let's watch! Their original content is still just a lot of blather meant to distract from the fact that, yes, it is still winter outside and no, you are not watching baseball right now. Benjamin Grimm Jan 23 2009 08:24 AM I'd rather see a random game from 20 or 30 years ago than one from last season, but maybe that's just me. metirish Jan 23 2009 08:33 AM I like the random recent game idea , I don't tune into SNY much these days as I get my baseball information from MLB Network. G-Fafif Feb 09 2009 12:02 PM The 1969 World Series returns to SNY tonight through Thursday night at 7:30, Games Two through Five. Mets in four...those four. John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 09 2009 12:22 PM Longest. Offseason. Ever. Gwreck Feb 16 2009 10:39 PM MLB Network is showing a game that SNY hasn't aired: Opening Day '85. This Saturday at 11:00 AM. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 03:31 PM Grab some popcorn and fire up the ol� DeLorean Time Machine because tonight, SNY and the Mets dig deep into yesteryear�s archives to shake the cobwebs from your memories. Does anyone still remember the iPhone? How about the Iraqi war? Tonight, it�s another Mets Classic from 2007 -way way back when the uniforms were black and the President was white. It�s the Mets vs. the Rockies tonight, all over again. Don�t bother looking for Jane Jarvis. Also starring Willie �I Will Sac Bunt for Food� Randolph as the manager and Burt Mustin as the batboy Gwreck Mar 02 2009 04:35 PM I believe that game was won on a bunt, actually. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 04:45 PM ="Gwreck":2ktjqog1]I believe that game was won on a bunt, actually.[/quote:2ktjqog1] But was it a base-hit bunt, or the out-making kind of bunt that Willie loved? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 02 2009 05:47 PM Walk-off bunt single. Endy's second finest moment in blue y orange. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 06:09 PM I knew that. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 06:10 PM I was at this game. I have to say, Easley's HR was a much bigger thrill. It was the absolute last thing I expected. Guy on 3rd, tie game in the home 12th, you're gonna win somehow. Edgy DC Mar 02 2009 06:42 PM Damion Easley, still jobless. Gwreck Mar 02 2009 07:13 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3g7r2yy9]I was at this game. I have to say, Easley's HR was a much bigger thrill. It was the absolute last thing I expected.[/quote:3g7r2yy9] So was I. My recollection was that Easley was down to his final strike with 2 outs as well, with Fuentes pitching. We were packing up to go home when he hit it out. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 07:50 PM Just turned this on only to find they're showing Game 1 of the 06 NLCS instead. Gwreck Mar 02 2009 08:51 PM I can't remember them ever showing that before. One of Glavine's finest pitching performances as a Met. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 09:34 PM Oh, sorry. I meant the Dodgers series. I think that's the one where John Maine gets his butt saved by the Dodgers' 3rd base coach. themetfairy Mar 02 2009 09:42 PM Yes - the double play at home plate was a thing of beauty. batmagadanleadoff Mar 03 2009 01:15 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":38thmw2y]Just turned this on only to find they're showing Game 1 of the 06 NL[D]S instead.[/quote:38thmw2y] It's obvious that SNY read my post and decided to get with it and show some older games.

[Frayed Knot]

And, likewise, I suspect there's some negotiating to be done for the stuff that originally aired under the Cablevision banner.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

="batmagadanleadoff":37dsjy4t] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast.[/quote:37dsjy4t] I asked a SNY guy about this and he said MLB owns the whole shebang these days -- or at least what of that shebang still exists. My brilliant idea of replaying Random Crappy Met Games from the past as cheap SNY programming seems like a pipe dream.

G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 02:40 PM

The '86 San Diego game is Channel 9; '88 Clincher is SportsChannel; several of the later Bobby V games are FSNY; a little Fox network is thrown in. Very much a hodgepodge. Seems to me they can get done what they want to get done. Maybe a new year brings a new slate.

Gwreck Jan 22 2009 02:44 PM

="G-Fafif":2hielg5a]The '86 San Diego game is Channel 9; '88 Clincher is SportsChannel; several of the later Bobby V games are FSNY; a little Fox network is thrown in. Very much a hodgepodge. Seems to me they can get done what they want to get done. Maybe a new year brings a new slate.[/quote:2hielg5a] I'm sure it's a money thing. And with MLB network starting now, I bet they're going to keep the first right to games they want rather than allowing SNY to air them. G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 04:19 PM There are certain SNY shows that use almost no postseason footage even when it is called for. Instead you see still photos as if video has yet to be invented. That is most definitely rights fees-related. batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 06:10 PM Another "classic" tonight on SNY from the Wee Willie years -- the 2006 Mets come back from a 4-0 1st inning deficit to defeat Randy Johnson and the MFY's. You knew the Mets were in it as soon as the MFY's plated their fourth run of the first inning. This effectively took away Willie's cherished though moronic let's sac bunt in the first inning strategy and forced Lo Duca to hit away after Reyes led off the home first with a walk. Lo Duca singled and came around to score on Beltran's homer. I always rooted for a big first inning from Met opponents during the Randolph era. metirish Jan 22 2009 06:17 PM 4 to 3 now in the second.....come on you Mets.... Edgy DC Jan 23 2009 07:01 AM I don't want to defend Willie too much, but I went back and checked Lo Duca's record. He had 10 sacrifice hits. All but one of them was to advance a runner from second with no outs --- not to advance a guy from first. I think three of them were in the first, and the rest were in late and close situations. Fman99 Jan 23 2009 07:56 AM Re: Mets Classics ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2vnfd2jw] ="batmagadanleadoff":2vnfd2jw] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast.[/quote:2vnfd2jw] I asked a SNY guy about this and he said MLB owns the whole shebang these days -- or at least what of that shebang still exists. My brilliant idea of replaying Random Crappy Met Games from the past as cheap SNY programming seems like a pipe dream.[/quote:2vnfd2jw] I would love that. Monday-Thursday, 7 PM, put on random Mets games from last year. Did they win or lose? I don't remember, let's watch! Their original content is still just a lot of blather meant to distract from the fact that, yes, it is still winter outside and no, you are not watching baseball right now. Benjamin Grimm Jan 23 2009 08:24 AM I'd rather see a random game from 20 or 30 years ago than one from last season, but maybe that's just me. metirish Jan 23 2009 08:33 AM I like the random recent game idea , I don't tune into SNY much these days as I get my baseball information from MLB Network. G-Fafif Feb 09 2009 12:02 PM The 1969 World Series returns to SNY tonight through Thursday night at 7:30, Games Two through Five. Mets in four...those four. John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 09 2009 12:22 PM Longest. Offseason. Ever. Gwreck Feb 16 2009 10:39 PM MLB Network is showing a game that SNY hasn't aired: Opening Day '85. This Saturday at 11:00 AM. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 03:31 PM Grab some popcorn and fire up the ol� DeLorean Time Machine because tonight, SNY and the Mets dig deep into yesteryear�s archives to shake the cobwebs from your memories. Does anyone still remember the iPhone? How about the Iraqi war? Tonight, it�s another Mets Classic from 2007 -way way back when the uniforms were black and the President was white. It�s the Mets vs. the Rockies tonight, all over again. Don�t bother looking for Jane Jarvis. Also starring Willie �I Will Sac Bunt for Food� Randolph as the manager and Burt Mustin as the batboy Gwreck Mar 02 2009 04:35 PM I believe that game was won on a bunt, actually. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 04:45 PM ="Gwreck":2ktjqog1]I believe that game was won on a bunt, actually.[/quote:2ktjqog1] But was it a base-hit bunt, or the out-making kind of bunt that Willie loved? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 02 2009 05:47 PM Walk-off bunt single. Endy's second finest moment in blue y orange. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 06:09 PM I knew that. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 06:10 PM I was at this game. I have to say, Easley's HR was a much bigger thrill. It was the absolute last thing I expected. Guy on 3rd, tie game in the home 12th, you're gonna win somehow. Edgy DC Mar 02 2009 06:42 PM Damion Easley, still jobless. Gwreck Mar 02 2009 07:13 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3g7r2yy9]I was at this game. I have to say, Easley's HR was a much bigger thrill. It was the absolute last thing I expected.[/quote:3g7r2yy9] So was I. My recollection was that Easley was down to his final strike with 2 outs as well, with Fuentes pitching. We were packing up to go home when he hit it out. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 07:50 PM Just turned this on only to find they're showing Game 1 of the 06 NLCS instead. Gwreck Mar 02 2009 08:51 PM I can't remember them ever showing that before. One of Glavine's finest pitching performances as a Met. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 09:34 PM Oh, sorry. I meant the Dodgers series. I think that's the one where John Maine gets his butt saved by the Dodgers' 3rd base coach. themetfairy Mar 02 2009 09:42 PM Yes - the double play at home plate was a thing of beauty. batmagadanleadoff Mar 03 2009 01:15 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":38thmw2y]Just turned this on only to find they're showing Game 1 of the 06 NL[D]S instead.[/quote:38thmw2y] It's obvious that SNY read my post and decided to get with it and show some older games.

[G-Fafif]

The '86 San Diego game is Channel 9; '88 Clincher is SportsChannel; several of the later Bobby V games are FSNY; a little Fox network is thrown in. Very much a hodgepodge.

Seems to me they can get done what they want to get done. Maybe a new year brings a new slate.

[Gwreck]

="G-Fafif":2hielg5a]The '86 San Diego game is Channel 9; '88 Clincher is SportsChannel; several of the later Bobby V games are FSNY; a little Fox network is thrown in. Very much a hodgepodge. Seems to me they can get done what they want to get done. Maybe a new year brings a new slate.[/quote:2hielg5a] I'm sure it's a money thing. And with MLB network starting now, I bet they're going to keep the first right to games they want rather than allowing SNY to air them.

G-Fafif Jan 22 2009 04:19 PM

There are certain SNY shows that use almost no postseason footage even when it is called for. Instead you see still photos as if video has yet to be invented. That is most definitely rights fees-related.

batmagadanleadoff Jan 22 2009 06:10 PM

Another "classic" tonight on SNY from the Wee Willie years -- the 2006 Mets come back from a 4-0 1st inning deficit to defeat Randy Johnson and the MFY's. You knew the Mets were in it as soon as the MFY's plated their fourth run of the first inning. This effectively took away Willie's cherished though moronic let's sac bunt in the first inning strategy and forced Lo Duca to hit away after Reyes led off the home first with a walk. Lo Duca singled and came around to score on Beltran's homer. I always rooted for a big first inning from Met opponents during the Randolph era.

metirish Jan 22 2009 06:17 PM

4 to 3 now in the second.....come on you Mets....

Edgy DC Jan 23 2009 07:01 AM

I don't want to defend Willie too much, but I went back and checked Lo Duca's record. He had 10 sacrifice hits. All but one of them was to advance a runner from second with no outs --- not to advance a guy from first. I think three of them were in the first, and the rest were in late and close situations.

Fman99 Jan 23 2009 07:56 AM Re: Mets Classics

="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2vnfd2jw] ="batmagadanleadoff":2vnfd2jw] I could be wrong, but I would imagine that the team owns the audio and video rights to every single Met game ever played, no matter how it was broadcast.[/quote:2vnfd2jw] I asked a SNY guy about this and he said MLB owns the whole shebang these days -- or at least what of that shebang still exists. My brilliant idea of replaying Random Crappy Met Games from the past as cheap SNY programming seems like a pipe dream.[/quote:2vnfd2jw] I would love that. Monday-Thursday, 7 PM, put on random Mets games from last year. Did they win or lose? I don't remember, let's watch! Their original content is still just a lot of blather meant to distract from the fact that, yes, it is still winter outside and no, you are not watching baseball right now. Benjamin Grimm Jan 23 2009 08:24 AM I'd rather see a random game from 20 or 30 years ago than one from last season, but maybe that's just me. metirish Jan 23 2009 08:33 AM I like the random recent game idea , I don't tune into SNY much these days as I get my baseball information from MLB Network. G-Fafif Feb 09 2009 12:02 PM The 1969 World Series returns to SNY tonight through Thursday night at 7:30, Games Two through Five. Mets in four...those four. John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 09 2009 12:22 PM Longest. Offseason. Ever. Gwreck Feb 16 2009 10:39 PM MLB Network is showing a game that SNY hasn't aired: Opening Day '85. This Saturday at 11:00 AM. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 03:31 PM Grab some popcorn and fire up the ol� DeLorean Time Machine because tonight, SNY and the Mets dig deep into yesteryear�s archives to shake the cobwebs from your memories. Does anyone still remember the iPhone? How about the Iraqi war? Tonight, it�s another Mets Classic from 2007 -way way back when the uniforms were black and the President was white. It�s the Mets vs. the Rockies tonight, all over again. Don�t bother looking for Jane Jarvis. Also starring Willie �I Will Sac Bunt for Food� Randolph as the manager and Burt Mustin as the batboy Gwreck Mar 02 2009 04:35 PM I believe that game was won on a bunt, actually. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 04:45 PM ="Gwreck":2ktjqog1]I believe that game was won on a bunt, actually.[/quote:2ktjqog1] But was it a base-hit bunt, or the out-making kind of bunt that Willie loved? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 02 2009 05:47 PM Walk-off bunt single. Endy's second finest moment in blue y orange. batmagadanleadoff Mar 02 2009 06:09 PM I knew that. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 06:10 PM I was at this game. I have to say, Easley's HR was a much bigger thrill. It was the absolute last thing I expected. Guy on 3rd, tie game in the home 12th, you're gonna win somehow. Edgy DC Mar 02 2009 06:42 PM Damion Easley, still jobless. Gwreck Mar 02 2009 07:13 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3g7r2yy9]I was at this game. I have to say, Easley's HR was a much bigger thrill. It was the absolute last thing I expected.[/quote:3g7r2yy9] So was I. My recollection was that Easley was down to his final strike with 2 outs as well, with Fuentes pitching. We were packing up to go home when he hit it out. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 07:50 PM Just turned this on only to find they're showing Game 1 of the 06 NLCS instead. Gwreck Mar 02 2009 08:51 PM I can't remember them ever showing that before. One of Glavine's finest pitching performances as a Met. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 02 2009 09:34 PM Oh, sorry. I meant the Dodgers series. I think that's the one where John Maine gets his butt saved by the Dodgers' 3rd base coach. themetfairy Mar 02 2009 09:42 PM Yes - the double play at home plate was a thing of beauty. batmagadanleadoff Mar 03 2009 01:15 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":38thmw2y]Just turned this on only to find they're showing Game 1 of the 06 NL[D]S instead.[/quote:38thmw2y] It's obvious that SNY read my post and decided to get with it and show some older games.