Arbitrary

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Vidro, Nomah, Stewart, Tatis, Baker, Fontenot all play some infield too.

My main point isn't about these guys though -- it's that at this point next year that list will include a whole new set of names. Omar IMO has to do a better job at finding those guys, not just clinging to those who'd made it.

[Frayed Knot]

All this got me a bit curious about bench strength and perception thereof.

And maybe PH-ing alone isn't teh best measure of it, but it's a quick 'n easy way to get a handle on it.

NYM - PH:
234 ABs, 53 Hits, 6 2Bs, 1 3B, 4 HR, .226/..303/.312

Per/team Avg of rest of NL:
235 ABs, 54 Hits, 10 2Bs, 1 3B, 5 HR, .229/..308/.348

In short, we were a little light in the power dept but otherwise about average.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Another look at bench stats, using the box score data in the UMDB. I looked at production from players who were not in the starting lineup, both for the Mets and their opponents.

Mets: 354 AB, 80 H, 9 2B, 1 3B, 6 HR, 38 BB, 1 HBP, 1 SF. .226 Avg., .308 Slg., .302 OBP.

Mets opponents: 416 AB, 104 H, 16 2B, 1 TR, 14 HR, 39 BB, 2 HBP, 3 SF, .250 Avg., .394 Slg., .315 OBP.

The Mets clearly got out-benched in 2008.

[Benjamin Grimm]

In 2006, the Mets bench had 330 AB, 67 H, 20 2B, 1 3B, 4 HR, 29 BB, 3 HBP and 2 SF.

Their opponents had 413 AB, 90 H, 21 2B, 3 3B, 9 HR, 39 BB, 4 HBP, and 2 SF.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Not to commit the sin of small samples or anything but trailing 3-1 in the 6th inning of a game we absolutely had to win, with 2 men on, and prepared to turn things over to the shakiest bullpen ever, we absolutely have to do better than calling on Marlon F. Anderson, who I needen't remind no one is already signed for next season.

GAWD.

[Guest AG/DC]

The reason we're discussing Easley in this thread is not because he's better than other options, but because arbitration applies to him and other options don't come inot play until the free agent season opens.

Yes, the Mets should pursue improvement on the bench. But comparing how the Mets bench performed to how the opponents bench performs lis a false comparison. One side performed against the entire league, mostly the relievers, and the other performed exclusively against the Mets, mostly against the Mets bullpen

[metirish]

I thought Anderson was through with the mets , forgot that Minaya picked of the scrap heap during the 07 season and then signed him for two years after that season.


If Anderson did anything good last season it was show some leadership with his wins plan.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Well guess I did need to remind someone.

As for Easley, I might offer him a peice of gum or a handshake or something but I sure wouldn't offer him no arbitration.

[Vic Sage]

i'm with JCL.

I'd offer arb to Perez, and that's it. He's the only 1 we'd get compensation for and that i would want back at anywhere near (or above) his current salary.

If we can sign Tatis and Ayala to reasonable deals, given their age, injuries, and limited recent history of success, then i'm amenable to their return, but no arbitration.

Easley i'm slightly less interested in, but would be willing to have back if he comes to ST and wins a job.

but that's it.