Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 Muniz 2Schoeneweis 1Wagner 1Heilman 1Martinez 1Reyes 2Schneider 0.80Beltran 0.80Tatis 0.25Delgado .15
Guest themetfairy Guests Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 Martinez - 1.25Muniz - 1.75Heilman - 1Schoenweis - 1Wagner - 1Reyes - 1.5Tatis - 1Schneider - 1Beltran - .25Delgado - .25
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 Muniz 2Schneider 2Martinez 1Wagner 1Heilman 1Schoeneweis 1Reyes 1Tatis 1
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2008 Posted July 13, 2008 Martinez - 2.1Muniz - 1.0Heilman - 0.6Schoeneweis - 0.6Wagner - 0.6Reyes - 1.5Beltran - 0.9Schneider - 0.9Tatis - 0.9Delgado - 0.9
soupcan Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2008 Posted July 13, 2008 Martinez - 2Muniz - 1Reyes - 1Schneider - 1 Tatis - 1Wagner - 1Beltran - .75Delgado - .75Heilman - .75Schoeneweis - .75
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2008 Posted July 13, 2008 Martinez 1.8Muniz 1.5Beltran 1Reyes 1.3Schneider 1.3Heilman 0.7Schoeneweis 0.7Wagner 0.7Tatis 1
Guest Vince Coleman Firecracker Guests Posted July 13, 2008 Posted July 13, 2008 Martinez 2Muniz 2Heilman 1Schoeneweis 1Wagner 1Reyes 1Beltran 1Schneider 1
Guest KC Guests Posted July 13, 2008 Posted July 13, 2008 beltran 1.00heilman 0.75martinez 1.50muniz 2.00reyes 1.00schneider 1.25schoeneweis 0.75tatis 1.00wagner 0.75
Guest Rockin' Doc Guests Posted July 13, 2008 Posted July 13, 2008 Muniz 1.50Reyes 1.25Schneider 1.00Martinez 1.00Tatis 0.75Heilman 0.75Schoeneweis 0.75Wagner 0.75Beltran 0.50Delgado 0.50
Elster88 Old-Timey Member Posted July 14, 2008 Posted July 14, 2008 Martinez 2.75Muniz 1.5Reyes 1Schneider 1Delgado 1Heilman 0.75Schoeneweis 0.75Wagner 0.75Beltran 0.5
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted July 18, 2008 Posted July 18, 2008 VOTING FOR THIS GAME IS NOW CLOSEDTotals for July 12, 2008 (10 votes)New York Mets 3, Colorado Rockies 0 NameTotalPointsPointsAwardedPlayer PerformancePedro Martinez16.401.644.0 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 3 BB, 3 SO.Carlos Muniz16.251.62(W) 2.0 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 2 SO.Jos� Reyes12.551.251-4, R, HR, RBI, BB.Brian Schneider11.251.121-1, 2B, RBI, 3 BB.Billy Wagner8.550.86(Sv) 1.0 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 SO.Scott Schoeneweis8.300.831.0 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 SO.Aaron Heilman8.300.831.0 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 SO.Fernando Tatis6.900.691-4, RBI, 2 SO, SB.Carlos Beltran6.700.671-4, R, 2B, SB.Carlos Delgado3.550.361-2, R, 2 BB, SO.
Elster88 Old-Timey Member Posted July 18, 2008 Posted July 18, 2008 Muniz pitched half as many innings but ends up with the same number of points.
Guest Rockin' Doc Guests Posted July 18, 2008 Posted July 18, 2008 I gave Muniz 1.50 pts. and Pedro 1.00 pts. For me personally, it has to do with expectations. Four innings of shut out ball from a starter is nice, but I truthfully expect my starter to go a minimum of five innings (I prefer six or more). Shorter stints from the starters lead to excessive use of the bullpen which can have a detrimental effect on their performance. However, two innings of no hit, shutout ball from a reliever easily meets my expectations of a good performance by a member of the pen. You may not agree, but that is the rationale I used when assessing the respective performance of Martinez and Muniz.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted July 18, 2008 Posted July 18, 2008 That's pretty much how I looked at it too.Pedro did less than was expected, although what he did he did well.Muniz was asked for two innings and he fully accomplished his mission.
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted July 18, 2008 Posted July 18, 2008 I agree with Rockin' Doc's analysis. Pedro's job is to go 6 innings or more; that's why he's only expected to pitch every 5 days. His 4 innings were excellent, but overall, it's not unfair to say that he didn't perform as well as he should have.
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