Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 SCHAEFER METS PLAYER AND PITCHERS OF THE MONTH, MAY 2008 The Schaefer Mets Player of the Month for May 2008 is CARLOS BELTRAN. This is the fourth time that Carlos has been Player of the Month. (He won twice in 2006 and once in 2007.) Carlos hit .306 and slugged .491 in May, and led the Mets with 19 runs batted in. Jose Reyes finished second. Jose hit .310 and slugged .534 in May, hitting 5 home runs and 7 doubles. (The 7 doubles tied for the team lead with David Wright.) The Schaefer Mets Pitcher of the Month for May 2008 is JOHN MAINE. This is the fifth time that Maine was Pitcher of the Month. He won once previously in 2006, and three times in 2007. (In June of 2007 he was both Player and Pitcher of the Month.) Maine's win was a narrow one, edging Johan Santana by a mere 0.05 points. In May, Maine was 3-2 in 6 starts and had a 3.72 ERA. He led the Mets in innings with 36.1, and strikeouts with 31. Santana, in 5 starts, was 3-1 with a 3.74 ERA and 26 strikeouts.And the Schaefer Mets Relief Pitcher of the Month is SCOTT SCHOENEWEIS. In 11 appearances, Scott had a 0.64 ERA in 14 innings pitched. He led the bullpen in innings and in ERA. (Billy Wagner had a 0.82 ERA in 10 games and 11 innings.)Month-to-date totals for May 2008Through game of May 31, 2008RankNamePoints1Carlos Beltran19.862Jos� Reyes16.273David Wright15.634John Maine15.375Johan Santana15.326Ryan Church12.357Mike Pelfrey12.178Luis Castillo11.299Carlos Delgado10.5910Claudio Vargas8.8511Oliver Perez8.0212Scott Schoeneweis7.4213Moises Alou7.1614Fernando Tatis6.4715Brian Schneider5.6616Aaron Heilman5.5717Billy Wagner5.3518Ramon Castro4.0619Duaner Sanchez3.8720Endy Chavez3.7021Pedro Feliciano3.3922Joe Smith2.7123Marlon Anderson2.4224Jorge Sosa2.4125Matt Wise2.2526Damion Easley2.2127Nick Evans2.0528Raul Casanova1.4429Angel Pagan1.2030Carlos Muniz0.7931Nelson Figueroa0.20
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Wow! Three total shockers as far as I'm concerned!Maine seems to have beaten Santana on the basis of one extra start, but still.Nice work on the cards and the press release.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Is relief Pitcher of the Month new , I don't remember that beofre , am I going crazy?Maine wins by 0.05 points , just shows how important the voting can be , great work Ben Grim.
Guest AG/DC Guests Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 I wonder. Is that Figueroa's last gasp?How about Heilman beating Wagner?
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Heilman appeared in five more games than Wags.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted June 4, 2008 Author Posted June 4, 2008 ="metirish":2o2x0mpo]Is relief Pitcher of the Month new , I don't remember that beofre , am I going crazy?Maine wins by 0.05 points , just show how important the voting can be , great work Ben Grim.[/quote:2o2x0mpo]Yes, it's new this year. And thanks!sharpie Jun 04 2008 09:44 AMIf a relief pitcher wins Pitcher of the Month does that mean there will be a Starter of the Month?Benjamin Grimm Jun 04 2008 09:53 AMNo.When a pitcher wins player of the month, there's no position player of the month.Frayed Knot Jun 04 2008 10:55 AM="AG/DC":xeb25qa0]How about Heilman beating Wagner?[/quote:xeb25qa0]That, along with Schoeneweis's margin over Wagner despite very similar stats,continues last month's discussion about closers not getting their due.Rockin' Doc Jun 04 2008 10:59 AMDue to his role as closer, Wagner generally receives fewer opportunities to score points.TheOldMole Jun 04 2008 11:00 AMHow much better could Wagner have done?AG/DC Jun 04 2008 11:01 AMThat should inform our voting, I think. I'm no exception there.themetfairy Jun 04 2008 11:07 AM="Frayed Knot":o25k6kpw]="AG/DC":o25k6kpw]How about Heilman beating Wagner?[/quote:o25k6kpw]That, along with Schoeneweis's margin over Wagner despite very similar stats,continues last month's discussion about closers not getting their due.[/quote:o25k6kpw]Which again opens up the discussion of whether closers are truly more valuable to their teams than the set-up men.John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 04 2008 11:08 AMI don't necessarily think the results show a flaw with us, just the limits of Schaefering in general. Results here are more or less a random snapshot, in that usage patterns don't coincide with the calendar month. Also, on the per-appearance basis (aka, "The Refreshment Index"), Wagner outscores all relievers.themetfairy Jun 04 2008 11:13 AM="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3m4hznl6]I don't necessarily think the results show a flaw with us, just the limits of Schaefering in general.[/quote:3m4hznl6]True, especially since we don't award negative points when players have bad outings.seawolf17 Jun 04 2008 11:13 AMSo if Aaron Heilman wins Player of the Month, he takes home all three trophies? Sweet.themetfairy Jun 04 2008 12:28 PM="seawolf17":15md44kh]So if Aaron Heilman wins Player of the Month, he takes home all three trophies? Sweet.[/quote:15md44kh]I think that's the month that BG decides to amend Schaefer voting to award negative points seawolf17 Jun 04 2008 12:31 PMNah, it's kinda like golf, where the lowest score wins.Rockin' Doc Jun 04 2008 03:12 PMmetfairy - "True, especially since we don't award negative points when players have bad outings."It's rather tough to take back the beer once they've drank it.
Guest sharpie Guests Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 If a relief pitcher wins Pitcher of the Month does that mean there will be a Starter of the Month?
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted June 4, 2008 Author Posted June 4, 2008 No.When a pitcher wins player of the month, there's no position player of the month.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 ="AG/DC":xeb25qa0]How about Heilman beating Wagner?[/quote:xeb25qa0]That, along with Schoeneweis's margin over Wagner despite very similar stats,continues last month's discussion about closers not getting their due.Rockin' Doc Jun 04 2008 10:59 AMDue to his role as closer, Wagner generally receives fewer opportunities to score points.TheOldMole Jun 04 2008 11:00 AMHow much better could Wagner have done?AG/DC Jun 04 2008 11:01 AMThat should inform our voting, I think. I'm no exception there.themetfairy Jun 04 2008 11:07 AM="Frayed Knot":o25k6kpw]="AG/DC":o25k6kpw]How about Heilman beating Wagner?[/quote:o25k6kpw]That, along with Schoeneweis's margin over Wagner despite very similar stats,continues last month's discussion about closers not getting their due.[/quote:o25k6kpw]Which again opens up the discussion of whether closers are truly more valuable to their teams than the set-up men.John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 04 2008 11:08 AMI don't necessarily think the results show a flaw with us, just the limits of Schaefering in general. Results here are more or less a random snapshot, in that usage patterns don't coincide with the calendar month. Also, on the per-appearance basis (aka, "The Refreshment Index"), Wagner outscores all relievers.themetfairy Jun 04 2008 11:13 AM="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3m4hznl6]I don't necessarily think the results show a flaw with us, just the limits of Schaefering in general.[/quote:3m4hznl6]True, especially since we don't award negative points when players have bad outings.seawolf17 Jun 04 2008 11:13 AMSo if Aaron Heilman wins Player of the Month, he takes home all three trophies? Sweet.themetfairy Jun 04 2008 12:28 PM="seawolf17":15md44kh]So if Aaron Heilman wins Player of the Month, he takes home all three trophies? Sweet.[/quote:15md44kh]I think that's the month that BG decides to amend Schaefer voting to award negative points seawolf17 Jun 04 2008 12:31 PMNah, it's kinda like golf, where the lowest score wins.Rockin' Doc Jun 04 2008 03:12 PMmetfairy - "True, especially since we don't award negative points when players have bad outings."It's rather tough to take back the beer once they've drank it.
Guest Rockin' Doc Guests Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Due to his role as closer, Wagner generally receives fewer opportunities to score points.
Theoldmole Old-Timey Member Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 How much better could Wagner have done?
Guest AG/DC Guests Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 That should inform our voting, I think. I'm no exception there.
Guest themetfairy Guests Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 ="Frayed Knot":o25k6kpw]="AG/DC":o25k6kpw]How about Heilman beating Wagner?[/quote:o25k6kpw]That, along with Schoeneweis's margin over Wagner despite very similar stats,continues last month's discussion about closers not getting their due.[/quote:o25k6kpw]Which again opens up the discussion of whether closers are truly more valuable to their teams than the set-up men.John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 04 2008 11:08 AMI don't necessarily think the results show a flaw with us, just the limits of Schaefering in general. Results here are more or less a random snapshot, in that usage patterns don't coincide with the calendar month. Also, on the per-appearance basis (aka, "The Refreshment Index"), Wagner outscores all relievers.themetfairy Jun 04 2008 11:13 AM="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3m4hznl6]I don't necessarily think the results show a flaw with us, just the limits of Schaefering in general.[/quote:3m4hznl6]True, especially since we don't award negative points when players have bad outings.seawolf17 Jun 04 2008 11:13 AMSo if Aaron Heilman wins Player of the Month, he takes home all three trophies? Sweet.themetfairy Jun 04 2008 12:28 PM="seawolf17":15md44kh]So if Aaron Heilman wins Player of the Month, he takes home all three trophies? Sweet.[/quote:15md44kh]I think that's the month that BG decides to amend Schaefer voting to award negative points seawolf17 Jun 04 2008 12:31 PMNah, it's kinda like golf, where the lowest score wins.Rockin' Doc Jun 04 2008 03:12 PMmetfairy - "True, especially since we don't award negative points when players have bad outings."It's rather tough to take back the beer once they've drank it.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 I don't necessarily think the results show a flaw with us, just the limits of Schaefering in general. Results here are more or less a random snapshot, in that usage patterns don't coincide with the calendar month. Also, on the per-appearance basis (aka, "The Refreshment Index"), Wagner outscores all relievers.
Guest themetfairy Guests Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3m4hznl6]I don't necessarily think the results show a flaw with us, just the limits of Schaefering in general.[/quote:3m4hznl6]True, especially since we don't award negative points when players have bad outings.seawolf17 Jun 04 2008 11:13 AMSo if Aaron Heilman wins Player of the Month, he takes home all three trophies? Sweet.themetfairy Jun 04 2008 12:28 PM="seawolf17":15md44kh]So if Aaron Heilman wins Player of the Month, he takes home all three trophies? Sweet.[/quote:15md44kh]I think that's the month that BG decides to amend Schaefer voting to award negative points seawolf17 Jun 04 2008 12:31 PMNah, it's kinda like golf, where the lowest score wins.Rockin' Doc Jun 04 2008 03:12 PMmetfairy - "True, especially since we don't award negative points when players have bad outings."It's rather tough to take back the beer once they've drank it.
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 So if Aaron Heilman wins Player of the Month, he takes home all three trophies? Sweet.
Guest themetfairy Guests Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 ="seawolf17":15md44kh]So if Aaron Heilman wins Player of the Month, he takes home all three trophies? Sweet.[/quote:15md44kh]I think that's the month that BG decides to amend Schaefer voting to award negative points seawolf17 Jun 04 2008 12:31 PMNah, it's kinda like golf, where the lowest score wins.Rockin' Doc Jun 04 2008 03:12 PMmetfairy - "True, especially since we don't award negative points when players have bad outings."It's rather tough to take back the beer once they've drank it.
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Nah, it's kinda like golf, where the lowest score wins.
Guest Rockin' Doc Guests Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 metfairy - "True, especially since we don't award negative points when players have bad outings."It's rather tough to take back the beer once they've drank it.
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