IGT - Sat 5/24 Mets @ Rox

[metirish]

Matt enjoying his holiday weekend.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Matt Holliday's last three AB's:

HR, game winning single, HR.

He needs to go down.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Castillo leads off the second. So far, he's not sac bunting. I know this because he just fouled off a pitch. On a full swing.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Wright homers. What are Wright's lifetime stats against lefties in Colorado?

[Frayed Knot]

Wright says: 'Fuck that humidor shit'


I can't believe that carried out.

[batmagadanleadoff]

metirish wrote: ="batmagadanleadoff"]When was the last time the Mets scored 5 in the first inning? It's happeed five times this season so far.

What are you busting my balls for? It never happened until today. I just looked it up.

[metirish]

Dick Stockton said it during that inning , no shitting.

[DocTee]

I bet the papers Horowitz was holding pertained to Gary Carter.

[Guest AG/DC]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: ="metirish"] batmagadanleadoff wrote: When was the last time the Mets scored 5 in the first inning? It's happeed five times this season so far. If it happened five times, it should've happened 10 times.

And if it happened 10, it should have happened 20?

What does how many times they scored five in the first inning matter?

Edited May 24, 2008 by Guest

[Frayed Knot]

DocTee wrote: I bet the papers Horowitz was holding pertained to Gary Carter.

Employment forms or restraining order?

[Frayed Knot]

2 pitches seen, 2 doubles

[batmagadanleadoff]

Evans lines a nice looking double in his second at bat. He's on pace to hit a double every single time up.

[Guest AG/DC]

Frayed Knot wrote: ="DocTee"]I bet the papers Horowitz was holding pertained to Gary Carter. Employment forms or restraining order?

Trying to win a Bullet of Cool award?

[batmagadanleadoff]

AG/DC wrote: And if it happened 10, it should have happened 20? What does how many times they scored five in the first inning matter?

Because the best batters might all come up with men on base. Because a lineup should optimally be designed to score big in the first inning. Because the first inning is the only inning where the manager knows for sure which three batters are guaranteed to get an at bat. And if the batters at the top get on base, the entire middle of the order gets a chance to drive in runs. And the chances of scoring big are greater when no one's making outs on purpose. A manager who almost always calls for a sac bunt even in the first inning, as soon as his leadoff batter gets on base, is reducing the team's chances of scoring big.

[batmagadanleadoff]

You see, I think that Randolph's managerial style reduces offense. And if you're costing your team runs, you could be costing your team some games. And if you're costing your team some games, you could be costing your team the right to play in the post-season. You might even be engineering one of the most embarrassing baseball collapses in modern baseball history.

[batmagadanleadoff]

AG/DC wrote: [What does how many times they scored five in the first inning matter?

Randolph had the sacrifice bunt on in the first inning with Castillo up. And it's not the first time I've seen Willie put on a sac bunt in the first inning of a game in Coors. Any manager that doesn't assume going in, that they're gonna need seven or eight runs to win a game in this stadium is, in my opinion, too stupid to deserve to manage. And if Wilie does understand this, then the sac bunt in the first inning has no justification.

[batmagadanleadoff]

FOX sez: The Mets five run first inning is the most since August of last year.

[metirish]

I swear I heard Stockton say they had done it five times already this season .

[Frayed Knot]

Seth Smith robs Tatis of an extra base hit on a nice running catch in deep RF right in front of a screened-off area where a lady is sitting immersed in some conversation totally oblivious to the play coming right at her.

[Guest AG/DC]

I'm certain the incidence of five-run firsts indicates little or nothing.

A good team will tend to do better, but I doubt the best team does the best.

The Cubs have the best O in the league, but they've scored five times in the first once.

[Frayed Knot]

I'd really like to see em tack on a few runs here.

[batmagadanleadoff]

AG/DC wrote: I'm certain the incidence of five-run firsts indicates little or nothing.... The Cubs have the best O in the league, but they've scored five times in the first once.

It doesn't have to be five. It could be four. Or three. Or six. And I'd bet that the incidence of scoring three or more runs in the first inning correlates very strongly with winning games. Teams score more runs in the first inning than in any other, and not by coincidence. The game's designed for that.

AG/DC wrote: A good team will tend to do better, but I doubt the best team does the best.

The best teams don't have to be the best at anything. But they're usually near the top in a whole bunch of categories.

[Frayed Knot]

Nice strong inning by Vargas there getting the middle of the order 1-2-3.

I even thought about PH-ing for him the previous inning when he was leading off, but with the pen hving to go all those innings (7?) last night it's best to see how far he can go.

[Frayed Knot]

9 in a row for Vargas since a leadoff single in the 5th

[batmagadanleadoff]

Evans the rookie hit his third double. Stockton sez it's the fifth time this week that a Met rookie debuted with three doubles in his first game.

[Valadius]

Where the hell did this Nick Evans come from?

[batmagadanleadoff]

Valadius wrote: Where the hell did this Nick Evans come from?

Gary Carter says he mentored Evans and wants credit.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

Evans apparently showed up in Colorado thirsty from his travels.

[Guest AG/DC]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: ="AG/DC"]I'm certain the incidence of five-run firsts indicates little or nothing.... The Cubs have the best O in the league, but they've scored five times in the first once. It doesn't have to be five. It could be four. Or three. Or six.

Then please don't say otherwise.

I fully agree Willie Randolph doesn't manage as well as I'd like. The idea that the incidence of five-run firsts is a direct indicator doesn't work. It just confuses the matter more, in fact.

[batmagadanleadoff]

AG/DC wrote: ="batmagadanleadoff"] AG/DC wrote: I'm certain the incidence of five-run firsts indicates little or nothing.... The Cubs have the best O in the league, but they've scored five times in the first once. It doesn't have to be five. It could be four. Or three. Or six. Then please don't say otherwise.

What exactly is the "otherwise" that I wrote that you have a problem with?