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you should give up, because the pitxching is clearly the problem, telling the offense "hey guys, your pitchers suck so i expect you to score 10 runs a game" isnt fair.


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I don;t recall saying it was fair.


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Nor did I.

I just know we're at the time of year that nobody can look to anybody but themselves. And I hoped the batters could pull this shit off, as the pitching is falling like a house of cards.

If and when Pedro leaves the game tonight, he should walk right to the bullpen and coach those suckers up.


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maybe Pedro should just try not to leave at all tonight. can the starters stop going 4 1/3 or 5 2/3 every night?


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The offense shares the blame for last night, imo. The Mets scored 6 runs in the first four innings, then when their opponent counterpunched, they did nothing, nada, zip, the last five innings. As bad as the 5th was, Schoenweis, Duque, and Heilman kept it a 1-run game for 3 innings, and the offense did not capitalize.


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They went down on 6 pitches in the 8th (and 11 in the 9th) but let's pretend it didn't happen.

They had only 2 baserunners, both on infield singles, in the final 5 innings.


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The Mets scored 6 runs last night. Whether they scored in the 1st or the 9th should be immaterial. putting up 6 runs should be enough for a major league pitching staff to get a win. That the pitchers couldn't make that stand up is on THEM, not the hitters.


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I'd love to think that they just match up poorly against Washington and Philadelphia. If that were true, they could potentially romp to the World Series from this point forward without facing either team again.

During that series at RFK they looked so obviously tight. It was most noticeable in the field. Every time they picked up a ball I felt like they were going to throw it wildly. (And they often did.)

Now the tightness is more subtle. They come into a game like gangbusters and score early. Then once they fall behind, the life goes out of them. They've been playing like they're afraid to lose and it's making them lose.

Maybe they'll have better mojo against the Cardinals and Marlins. It's a slim hope to hang our hat on, but it is what it is.


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Vic Sage wrote:
The Mets scored 6 runs last night. Whether they scored in the 1st or the 9th should be immaterial. putting up 6 runs should be enough for a major league pitching staff to get a win. That the pitchers couldn't make that stand up is on THEM, not the hitters.


It should be immaterial except it isn't. Whether they scored 6 runs or 0 they still fell a run short. Nowhere am I intimating the pitchers don't suck a great deal more bhmc than the hitters. Or that 6 runs ought to be enough to win. It should.

I'm saying that shitty pitching being the case, the hitters need to do more in order to win. That means, they can't go 5 innings without scoring.

(I am also saying that poor innings and poor execution tend to have been an isssue with this offense whether they score 6, 3 or 0 runs in a game).


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Vic Sage wrote:
That the pitchers couldn't make that stand up is on THEM, not the hitters.


True that. Still, there are specific changes that would improve the offense and get us more runs (take more pitches, be careful when taking a big lead off first, don't attempt to steal third with two out). Is there anything specific that would improve the pitching, other than having them suck less?

As a baseball fan, I'd like to see the pitching improve so that we can have some nice, well-played, 2-1 games for a change. As a Mets fan, I don't care whether the Mets win 2-1 or 12-11, as long as the Mets win. If the offense can squeeze out more runs, that's just as good as the pitching giving up fewer runs.


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Yancy Street Gang wrote:
I'd love to think that they just match up poorly against Washington and Philadelphia.


I'd love to think that they match up perfectly well against Philly and that the laws of probability dictate that a four-game squasher in our favor is in order should we meet up again. But let's get there first.


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Okay.

Tomorrow is the last working day (for me at least) of the regular season. I'm already going to get some good natured ribbing so I might as well show my colors. It's the Mets orange hoodie for me. Maybe with the Bernie shirt under for luck. Can't hurt.


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Got the expected reaction but I told Jason he'd be wearing this orange hoodie come Monday when I have bragging rights.


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