IGT 08/05, Phillies at Mets

[metirish]

I love how Delgado pumps his fist after the catch from Wright to end the game, 3 good plays in the field today for him.

[Zvon]

metirish wrote: Glavine with career win 287....

Wow--watching that replay.
What a great play--that ball was by him.
He saves the save for Wagner.
Saves the win for Glavine.

That was HUGE.

[Zvon]

Frayed Knot wrote: IIRC, that's the 2nd time Wright's glove has bailed Wagner's ass out after costing him one early in the season. Wright's glove is now ahead 2-1

....and that other one turned into a double play.
Factor that.

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

="Zvon"]WHAT A PLAY BY WRIGHT! A diving stab down the line and great throw to 1st ends it. Wipe the sweat from your brow andput it in the books.

I love that boy

Thanks for the description and account of the play

[Elster88]

Lieberreally did pitch a great game.

[Willets Point]

Elster88 wrote: Lieberreally did pitch a great game.

Any relation to Liberace?

[Zvon]

ScarletKnight41 wrote: I love that boy Thanks for the description and account of the play

My pleasure.
We miss your I LOVE WRIGHT thingy.

Next time you go on vacation you should pack that.

[Elster88]

Zvon wrote: We miss your I LOVE WRIGHT thingy.

Speak for yourself.

[Zvon]

Willets Point wrote: ="Elster88"]Lieberreally did pitch a great game. Any relation to Liberace?

Lmao-- lotd.

laugh of the day

[Zvon]

Elster88 wrote: ="Zvon"]We miss your I LOVE WRIGHT thingy. Speak for yourself.

K.

All of us cept Elster miss your I LOVE WRIGHT thingy.

[Elster88]

That's not speaking for yourself.

[Elster88]

Willie on the postgame: Cliff just cramped up a little bit and should be okay for tomorrow.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

That's good news. I think Cliffie should start hitting balls in the stands more often so he can cut down on his running.

[Zvon]

Elster88 wrote: Willie on the postgame: Cliff just cramped up a little bit and should be okay for tomorrow.

Cramped up?
He wasnt even running full steam-
He was joggin over there.

I thought he hurt his rib cage smackin the sidewall, but it looked like most of the impact went to his thigh, as he leaped a lil while hitting it.

Well, as long as he's back for tomorrow......whatever.

[metirish]

I really don't know what to think about Milledge.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

ESPN reported that Cliff felt tightness in his left Achilles tendon. They stated it had bothered him on July 30th and caused him to be held out of that game.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

metirish - "I really don't know what to think about Milledge.

So far, my impression is that he's a talented head case.

[Guest sharpie]

Lenny and I went to the game today and broke each of our 7-game losing streaks stretching back to '04. Once a season we get great seats from mrs. sharpie's work and today was the day. Great game to be at.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

It's rare to see a complete game loss anymore, but Leiber had one today.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

It's rare to see a complete game anymore.

Tough loss for Lieber. He really pitched pretty well. He got himself in trouble when he threw the ball away on Beltran's check swing grounder. He had retired 17 straight Mets up to that point.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Mets getting no walks is nettlesome.

Well, it would be nettlesome, but Graig Nettles had a lot of walks.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

We haven't a game since Monday where we haven't cried out for Duaner AND Xavier. It's as if their heads collided both diving for the same ball at the same time.

Honestly, we look a lot less dangerous and it's almost palpable.

[Guest Edgy DC]

How do you see the bullpen shaking out right now?

I guess Willy has Heilman and Hernandez at equal status, probably reasoning (to himself at least) that he'll need Heilman's best at the end fo the year and, considering the team's cushion he'd better be as restrained as possible to demote him and undercut his cahnfidence.

But a few more self-destructive outings, and I'm strongly suspicious that it'll clearly be Hernandez in the eighth and Heilman in the seventh, and a few more after that and it'll be Hernandez in the eighth and Chadro Bradiciano in the seventh.

And there's also a strong argument that Bell or Pelfrey should be given a chance to auditon as Hernandez's partner in setting up Wagner.

There's probably a strong argument for Oliver.

Heilman got the job done today.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Yeah, I think you got the basic idea: Give the 8th innings to Heilman until the lead shrinks to single digits or he gets better, or he gets killed.

Relief pitching is so enigmatic. It seems to me Duaner was this octopus with his arms gently supporting each of his fellow bullpenners: removing him upsets the whole balance of things. Oliver suddenly gets a leverage inning and surrenders a giant HR. Wagner looks like crap. Heilman looks like he knows he doesn't have anyone's faith. And no guarantee Sanchez will return to reclaim such a role, ever: It's all momentum, with talent, sure, and health.

So I don't trust obvious bullpen fixes that come at the moment you need them, and I do think it'd be ballsy and interesting to see what Maine or Pelfrey could do if they're given a chance.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Ring hasn't appeared yet. I'd like him to get some innings soon so that we can get an idea of how he'll fit into the equation.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Pedro Feliciano has shown some acceptably even splits

Vs. lefties:.256 / .278 / .372 // .650
Vs. righties: .263 / .358 / .375 // .733

Maybe he gets a broader role and Ring becomes the LOOGy.

[Elster88]

Link

NEW YORK -- Even before the injury to setup man Duaner Sanchez forced Willie Randolph to redo the bullpen, the manager spoke of using Darren Oliver in late-game situations, mostly as a means of preparing him for postseason duty, but also with a sense of testing the veteran left-hander who has prospered in long relief this season.

The plan backfired on Friday night, when Oliver entered the game in the seventh inning with the score tied at 3-3 and surrendered a home run to his first batter -- a left-handed batter -- David Dellucci. The Phillies scored in the ninth as well, when Ryan Howard, also a left-handed hitter, hit his 37th home run, against southpaw Pedro Feliciano.

The assignment Friday marked the second time this season Oliver has been asked to pitch later than the sixth inning with the score tied or with a margin of one run either way. In each instance he allowed a run.

A rundown of Oliver's seven "seventh or later" appearances follows:

April 7: In the Mets' fourth game, Oliver makes his first appearance and starts the ninth with the Mets leading, 9-3, against the Marlins in Miami. Three up, three down.

May 18: Oliver is summoned to start the eighth inning in St. Louis with the Mets trailing, 6-3. Three up, three down.

June 3: With the Mets trailing the Giants, 5-4, at Shea, Oliver starts and completes the ninth and allows a run on a single by Barry Bonds.

June 6: Oliver starts the eighth in Los Angeles vs. the Dodgers with the Mets trailing by three runs. He allows two hits and a walk but no runs and completes the inning.

June 20: Oliver works the ninth against the Reds at Shea with the Mets leading, 9-2. He faces four batters, allowing a hit.

June 21: With the Mets trailing the Reds by four at home, Oliver is assigned the seventh inning. Again, he faces four batters and allows one hit.

Aug. 4: With the Mets and Phillies tied at 3, Oliver is given the seventh inning. His first batter, David Dellucci, a left-handed hitter, provides the decisive run in what becomes a 5-3 Phillies victory.