All Purpose Schaefer Discussion Thread

[metsmarathon]

well, right now, i'm not really giving out bonus or demerit points, unless there's something that really jumps out at me. and i think i distracted myself away from that catch...

regardless, since he wasn't in the top six point-getters, he does not make it into the vote-allocating process.

as you can see, he recieved only three points in the game. for him to have made it into the voting, he would have had to at least surpass el duque's 5.40 points, and likely would have had to pass feliciano's 5.50 to get any votes. (i normally give the top point-getter a bonus vote for being player of the game, but since there were so many nearly equal contributers, and cos i felt like el duque deserved a vote, i took a vote from oliver and gave it to ducky.)

[nymr83]

]are all of this year's schaeffer threads around somewhere or just the recent ones? Older ones are in the offline archives.

any way i could get a look at those?

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Just click on the link in the paragraph describing the Featured Archives Forum.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Voting for the June 13 game will end on Friday morning.

[nymr83]

My Totals through the 15th:

[list:067f2c8bcd]Wright 70.75
Beltran 53.5
Delgado 50.75
Glavine 48.5
Martinez 41.5
Reyes 37
Nady 29
Floyd 23
LoDuca 21.75
Traschel 20.75
Valentin 18.5
Sanchez 16.75
Soler 15
Chavez 14.5
Bannister 13.5
Wagner 11.75
Oliver 11.75
Heilman 11
Milledge 8.25
Matsui 7.75
Hernandez,O. 7.5
Woodward 7.5
Bradford 6.25
Franco 6.25
Feliciano 6.25
Castro 4
Gonzalez 3.5
Zambrano 3.25
Bell 2.25
Julio 1.75[/list:u:067f2c8bcd]

on edit- 6 players have appeared in games but gotten no points from me: John Maine, Jose Lima, Bartolome Fortunado, Victor Diaz, Anderson Hernandez, and Eli Marrero (so far.)

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Namor has a much bigger lead for Wright than GYC does, or than the forum as a whole.

Maybe if Valadius returns when school ends, we can assign him to tallying everyone's individual votes.

(Actually, school probably has ended for him. I suspect he ain't coming back.)

[nymr83]

my totals in general are probably higher because i give the full ten points in all wins and probably 75% of the losses as well. not sure how wright alone got so much higher, it may or may not balance out over the season (or i'm wright about his value and you're all wrong...lol)

[Elster88]

Good looking out. I meant to put Bradford. No discussion in the game threads.

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

Show some love for Marrero today - his 7th inning catch kept the game from being tied and potentially changed the entire complexion of the game.

[Frayed Knot]

He took a somewhat less-than-optimal track to that ball at first which made it a bit tougher than it should have been, but still a helluva catch in a big spot. Coupla nice catches by the new guy today.

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

The ball up the shirt play was bizarre!

We had heard it on the radio this afternoon, and just saw it on the replay of the game. Unbelievable!

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Voting for all three games of the Baltimore series will close on Wednesday morning.

[Elster88]

The losses get much less voter turnout.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Yes. Losses get more votes than last year, though, when the 10-point requirement was in effect.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Marrero's fine game is going underscored.

[nymr83]

in the 9th inning of a game that you trail by more than one run a solo shot is essentially a single, or at best a double since theres no possibility of a DP after it. is Beltran getting points for that from everyone? or is it just the first inning RBI groundout?

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

He had the only two Met RBIs of the night. That's beer-worthy.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

The Baltimore games can all use some more votes. Voting for all three games will close on Wednesday morning.

Make your voice heard!

[Elster88]

For those who missed yesterday's game, Duaner came in with bases loaded and no outs.

He wasn't perfect, a fly ball to the first hitter drove in a run, but the next batter up hit a tailor made double play ball to Wright and that was all the scoring they got.

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

I didn't realize that Elster - I was out for most of the game last night.

I just amended my vote based on your description and account of the inning.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

David Wright, looking to repeat last year's title, is opening up a lead in the year-to-date totals. The 4.21 points he earned on Sunday against the Orioles pushes him to a more than ten-point lead.

Xavier Nady, despite all the lost time, is still in the top ten. (And his two-homer performance against Cincinnati hasn't been tallied yet.)

And who would have guessed that Jos� Valentin would be ahead of Cliff Floyd?


Season-to-date totals for 2006
Through game of June 18, 2006

Rank	Name	Points
1	David Wright	60.77
2	Carlos Beltran	50.51
3	Carlos Delgado	50.44
4	Tom Glavine	45.82
5	Pedro Martinez	43.81
6	Jos� Reyes	43.78
7	Xavier Nady	24.68
8	Paul Lo Duca	24.05
9	Steve Trachsel	21.80
10	Duaner Sanchez	19.75
11	Billy Wagner	18.85
12	Jos� Valentin	18.17
13	Cliff Floyd	17.88
14	Alay Soler	17.25
15	Endy Chavez	15.08
16	Aaron Heilman	14.83
17	Darren Oliver	14.25
18	Brian Bannister	12.69
19	Pedro Feliciano	10.70
20	Lastings Milledge	9.46
21	Chad Bradford	8.63
22	Chris Woodward	8.32
23	Orlando Hernandez	8.24
24	Kaz Matsui	7.97
25	Ramon Castro	7.55
26	Julio Franco	5.72
27	Jorge Julio	5.37
28	Victor Zambrano	4.66
29	Heath Bell	4.25
30	Jeremi Gonzalez	3.25
31	Eli Marrero	1.01
32	John Maine	0.76
33	Anderson Hernandez	0.57
34	Victor Diaz	0.32
35	Bartolome Fortunato	0.28
36	Jos� Lima	0.12

Wright also has a healthy lead in the Player of the Month race for June. There are still 9 games left to play, and 11 to tally, so Beltran, Delgado, and Reyes can still overtake him with a big week. The Glavine-Martinez deadlock on Pitcher of the Month looks almost certain to be broken. Even if Glavine earns a pair of 5's he's unlikely to pass Alay Soler.


Month-to-date totals for June 2006
Through game of June 18, 2006

Rank	Name	Points
1	David Wright	22.25
2	Carlos Beltran	15.03
3	Alay Soler	14.56
4	Carlos Delgado	13.28
5	Jos� Reyes	13.17
6	Lastings Milledge	9.02
7	Orlando Hernandez	6.59
8	Tom Glavine	5.32
9	Endy Chavez	5.27
10	Jos� Valentin	5.07
11	Chad Bradford	4.23
12	Steve Trachsel	4.14
13	Pedro Feliciano	4.11
14	Billy Wagner	3.88
15	Pedro Martinez	3.84
16	Chris Woodward	3.62
17	Paul Lo Duca	3.16
18	Aaron Heilman	2.79
19	Duaner Sanchez	2.00
20	Darren Oliver	1.88
21	Heath Bell	1.67
22	Ramon Castro	1.46
23	Cliff Floyd	1.20
24	Eli Marrero	1.01
25	Julio Franco	0.97

The official annoucement of the June Player and Pitcher of the Month will be delayed a bit. I'll be away on vacation in Alaska from June 30 through July 11. Upon my return I'll catch up on all the game tallying (and on my personal voting) and the June annoucement will come some time during the second week of July.

[Elster88]

I think Wright is getting a little underscored for yesterday's game. Two two-run homers in 3 at-bats. Throw a walk in. If I'm remembering right, one homer tied the other game and the other took the lead. I'd say at least four points. You can't have a much better game then that. I guess maybe three home runs is better.

[Elster88]

I like using mlb.com for box scores because I think those links will be around longest, but I think I may switch because they don't have easy access to a "how they scored". I think ESPN has how they scored right there on the same page.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Yahoo boxes have that info, too.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Regarding Elster's comments on the June 22 game, if the voting were to end right now, Wright would get 3.97 points, Pedro 2.84, Bradford 0.86, Beltran 0.83, and smaller fractions of points for Reyes, Nady, Franco, Milledge, Bell, and Feliciano.

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

I love David Wright, but you need to reward the pitching, and the other RBIs were important also.

Sometimes there just isn't enough beer to go around.

[Elster88]

When the guy has a two-homer, 4 RBI day on a day we win 6-2, I'll take it away from the guy who pitches an inning with a 4 run lead or the guy who goes 2-4 with no RBI and no runs scored before I take some away from Him.

But that's just me.

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

Bradford came in with two on, put out that fire quickly, then pitched a quick 9th. IMO, that's more than just pitching an inning - that kept Cincinnati from getting back into the game.

[nymr83]

i would probably have given Bradford nothing for the 9th inning of a 4-run game, its the fact that he ended the threat in the 8th AND then pitchedt he 9th that had to be rewarded.

[Elster88]

Why are we having trouble spelling the word Schaefer all of a sudden? That's like three threads now. One f.