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[Elster88]

What is the funk?

How many of you who are demanding that Cairo stays nailed to the bench are the same as those who were demanding Kaz stayed nailed to the bench a couple of months ago? Be honest, now.
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[Guest Spacemans Bong]

Elster88 wrote: What is the funk? How many of you who are demanding that Cairo stays nailed to the bench are the same as those who were demanding Kaz stayed nailed to the bench a couple of months ago? Be honest, now. _____________________________ This post was under the designation 164) Keith Miller

What's your point? Kaz was not hitting then. Cairo is not hitting now.

[Guest Bret Sabermetric]

KC wrote: I don't read Edge's response as a schoolmarmish mandate or anything. ....Whole lotta bullshit in this thread. Yup ©

I really didn't expect you would. But my point is that he runs around wagging his schoolmarmish fingers at posters, when it's safe, who violate his notion of proper forum etiquette, but when you tell me how annoyingly full of BS I am, which you do about five times a week, so often in fact I've come think that my initials are BS, well, he's strangely tolerant of rudeness and undecorous colloquy.

It's not just me, so don't give me the full five-paragraph-treatment on my supposed martyrdom (I couldn't care less if people think I'm full of shit--that's often the conclusion I eventually reach). But you and Dickshot and Frayed Knot and others, bless you, are hilariously and creatively rude all the time, and he doesn't wag his fucking fingers in your faces.

When you're selective like he is, you're more of a hypocrite than you are a schoolmarm. So I apologize to schoolmarms everywhere.

[Elster88]

Spacemans Bong wrote: ="Elster88"]What is the funk? How many of you who are demanding that Cairo stays nailed to the bench are the same as those who were demanding Kaz stayed nailed to the bench a couple of months ago? Be honest, now. _____________________________ This post was under the designation 164) Keith Miller What's your point? Kaz was not hitting then. Cairo is not hitting now.

From your response, I'm guessing that you were one of those.

What's my point? I'm just curious who was demanding and was pissed off at Willie, and then was demanding and pissed off at Willie about exactly the opposite. My point should be self-explanatory.

And someone please explain what the funk is. I remember the Funk from an old, hilarious Vince Carter commerical, but I don't think that's what Willie was referring to.
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[Frayed Knot]

'Funk' is this case is/was Taguchi's slower than slow changeup which is the "different look" that made him Willie's choice to pitch there in the first place. His fastball - the one that Cabrera hit - is nothing special. Problem was that he had missed with his previous change or two and got behind.

So I guess Willie wanted Taguchi to bring on da funk but not bring in da noise.

[Guest KC]

Supposed martyrdom? You're the poster child for martyrdom.

Cursing has never been an issue on this forum and everyone can curse
freely. So, it wasn't a call for decorum check ... you turned it into one.

With all this schoolmarm waggin' talk, Edgy's gay icon status is going to
soar through the roof.

[Guest Bret Sabermetric]

KC wrote: Supposed martyrdom? You're the poster child for martyrdom.

Only because you've made me into one, instead of dealing with the content of my posts.

KC wrote: . Cursing has never been an issue on this forum and everyone can curse freely. So, it wasn't a call for decorum check ... you turned it into one.

Wrong again. "Decorum" doesn't equal "not cursing." As I understood it, and I think I did understand it, he was telling DocTee that we don't speak to each other rudely and pre-emptorily around here. My point was that Yeah, sometimes, we do, so don't be going all Little Miss Manners on our asses whenever you've got menstrual cramps.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Next time Shingo takes the mound, the Shea faithful (or the Fea Shaithful) rise as one and say:

Oh, we want the funk!

Give up the funk!

Ow, we need the funk!

We gotta have that funk!

[Zvon]

Edgy DC wrote: Next time Shingo takes the mound, the Shea faithful (or the Fea Shaithful) rise as one and say: Oh, we want the funk! Give up the funk! Ow, we need the funk! We gotta have that funk!

lmao

really edge.
That would be perfect. Too perfect.

Yea, by funk Willie meant his off speed funky pitch.
And if Shingo did get behind, and was left to make his own call on what he felt he was more confident throwing there, then Willie really should keep such comments to himself. Cuz both ways you cut it, it doesnt reflect well on him.

But being a manager aint the same as being a coach, and past Yankee accomplishments hold no sway over what he is going thru now.

[Guest Bret Sabermetric]

Zvon wrote: But being a manager aint the same as being a coach, and past Yankee accomplishments hold no sway over what he is going thru now.

Did you notice how, in the Eunuch's pregame show on Sunday, Willie kept referring the the Marlins' closer as "Doug" Jones? I don't know if he THINKS it's the early nineties and Cleveland's still on the schedule, or if this is just another sign of his mental limitations,

[nymr83]

]What's my point? I'm just curious who was demanding and was pissed off at Willie, and then was demanding and pissed off at Willie about exactly the opposite. My point should be self-explanatory

that not true. calling for the opposite would mean calling for more of Matsui...I'm doing nothing of the sort....Matsui proved he can't hit so i called for Cairo (who at the time was a better option than our injured minor leaguers plus hernandez had just switched from ss and needed to learn a position) now that Cairo has shown he cant hit either i am calling for someone else. theres nothing wrong with my position i dont think, i want htem to keep turning the 2b job over to someone else until someone comes along who gets the job done.

[Elster88]

]Matsui proved he can't hit

Is this what he proved last year when he hit over .270 and was on a pace to hit 40 or so doubles over 150 games until his injury?

Or did he prove it in the half of a year that he played this year?

Or maybe he never did and it's a knee-jerk reaction to kick him to the curb and play a guy who has hit well in the minors? How did that work out for Jacobs after his initial spurt? Why is the grass always greener in the minors?

[Elster88]

Bret Sabermetric wrote: ="Zvon"]But being a manager aint the same as being a coach, and past Yankee accomplishments hold no sway over what he is going thru now. Did you notice how, in the Eunuch's pregame show on Sunday, Willie kept referring the the Marlins' closer as "Doug" Jones? I don't know if he THINKS it's the early nineties and Cleveland's still on the schedule, or if this is just another sign of his mental limitations,

I try not to get too hung up when someone attaches the wrong first name to a last name, especially when it's a common name like Jones. If he knows their closer's name is Jones and the kind of stuff he has, that's all I care about.

I can't believe how much defending of Willie I'm doing, but when I hear him getting bashed for screwing up a guy's first name and getting blamed for singlehandedly keeping the Mets out of the playoffs, then I try to defend him.
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[Zvon]

Bret Sabermetric wrote: ="Zvon"]But being a manager aint the same as being a coach, and past Yankee accomplishments hold no sway over what he is going thru now. Did you notice how, in the Eunuch's pregame show on Sunday, Willie kept referring the the Marlins' closer as "Doug" Jones? I don't know if he THINKS it's the early nineties and Cleveland's still on the schedule, or if this is just another sign of his mental limitations,

lol.I missed Sundays game, and didnt catch that.
So he cant keep up with the Jones's....... (I used that joke like 4 times 2day,hehe)

As long as I dont ever get the impression that Randolf isnt as sharp as Ralph Kiner in his primo drinking days, Ill let that kinda thing slide.
Like if he cant come up with Loopers 1st name, Id have a problem. As long as he's at least that familiar with his team.

I meant to add more under that statement that you quoted, and I got a phonecall and just hit submit and left. That was an unfinished thought.....
Figured youd quote just that, bret,lol.

I was gonna add afew things but my train of thought seems to have stopped at the last station.
Something like how Willie seems to have this belief in karma thing goin.

Now I really have a firm belief that baseball is the game most ruled by luck.
Its the game where karma finds its greater course.

But ITS SEPTEMBER, dagnabbitt.
And the Mets have a chance, albiet far out, to get the wild card.
So give luck and karma a lil help by usin your noggin.

By using what you have to its full potential, even if that potential ends up falling short of the goal. And dont do it whimsically. Do it with care.

Dont say "Hey, Pennant race, big game, big situation, I think we should give Shingo a try out there........hope he throws the funk."

Its September........MAKE IT HAPPEN.

[Zvon]

What im sayin is I think Randolf can be a great manager.
I want him to be a great and VERY successful Met manager.

All he has to do is show me.
Im not asking for the WC,even.
Im asking him to put the Mets in the best position to have their best chance to get there.
Tomorrow Ill hear how "Trachsel wanted to stay in there and I wanted to show him confidence and help his confidence so.........."(
Whatever confidence the Mets have at this point, thats what they are gonna have to settle for,lol. You cant play the game in September like you do all season if you are in a pennant race. And one of the closest and hottest and best WC races up to now. Five teams are within 3 games of one another. Id at least like to see the Mets hang and make the final week more exciting and ulcer inducing.

Let me put it this way:
Im very easy going and laid back when it comes to any Mets manager. Games can go so many different ways.

But when I second guess you before the fact, your in trouble.

Trouble I tell ya, with a capitol 'T' and a 'r-o-u-b' and a 'l' and a 'e'.

[Guest Bret Sabermetric]

Elster88 wrote: I try not to get too hung up when someone attaches the wrong first name to a last name, especially when it's a common name like Jones. If he knows their closer's name is Jones and the kind of stuff he has, that's all I care about.

Sure, but: Doug Jones had VERY unusual stuff for a closer, AND

while it's a trivial, and fairly common, error to mix up people's names, how often do you hear a really brainy manager--Tony LaRussa or Tom Kelly or Earl Weaver--do that? I've rarely heard it. The only really successful manager who did this sort of thing a lot was Stengel, who was basically some kind of idiot savant.

[Guest KC]

>>>Only because you've made me into one, instead of dealing with the content of my posts.<<<

So now in addition to being the rude one, I have the ability to create
martyrs. You're in no position here to dictate how I deal with your
posts. I do a lot of work here. Having to worry about what you're going
to say on a daily basis about me, Edge, or whoever you decide you're
going to cyber-bully for the day makes the work seem kinda pointless
when it's constantly being spit on by former friends.

[Guest Bret Sabermetric]

KC wrote: I have the ability to create martyrs.

Sure you do. If I decide to respond to every single one of your posts as the work of a deranged Lithuanian Liberation Army malcontent because that's much easier than actually responding to the content, and if I take pains to repeat "deranged Lithiuanian Liberation Army malcontent" several times in every response I make, then guess what? I have created a genuine deranged Lithuanian Liberation Army malcontent out of you, at least as far as our readers are concerned.

I would rather you dealt with the content of my posts. I don't think that's quite "dictat[ing] how [you] deal with [me.]" It's only the basic respect you give to any poster. But if you're going to refuse, if you're going to pretend that you're ignoring what I'm saying (which is fine with me) BECAUSE it's all whining, self-pitying ,me-me-me BS, I'm going to take the extreme liberty of pointing out that's what you're doing.

Eef you don't mind, that is. Would you like to borrow my nice clean handerchief to wipe some of that spittle off your face? I'm very sorry for it, and I assure you I would never spit on any of my friends, at least not on purpose.

[Guest KC]

I don't think I can exist in the same room with you anymore.

[Elster88]

Since you don't want to be a martyr, and since KC doesn't want you to be a martyr or to make you a martyr, could you change your avatar?
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[Guest ABG]

I'd have no complaints if KC were to take any cyber action, no matter how drastic, in dealing with this. Just sayin'.

[Guest KC]

Lol, don't get your hopes up ... banning people just invites more shenanigans.

[Guest cooby]

But your list of a half dozen names may start to grow...

[Guest Bret Sabermetric]

Elster88 wrote: Since you don't want to be a martyr, and since KC doesn't want you to be a martyr or to make you a martyr, could you change your avatar?

KC offered to do this weeks ago. His memory, as he says, isn't so good.

You know how to make a martyr, for real? You kill him, right?

I'm just saying.

All I ever wanted to do around here was talk baseball. But my opinions of this spectacularly well-run baseball organization seem to be unacceptable to some of you. If you think banning me will make this organization more competent, knock yourselves out.

[Elster88]

I just don't like your avatar. I am staying out of the rest of it.
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[Guest Bret Sabermetric]

Elster88 wrote: I just don't like your avatar.

Okey-dokey.

You know how this horrible image came to appear on this forum, of course? KC posted it to make fun of my supposedly whining tone (again, not addressing my point, but just manufacturing an image of me that made my point irrelevant), and nobody said boo. After I adopted it, then it became offensive and objectionable.

Them's the plain facts. KC can do whatever he chooses to my avatar, or to me for that matter.

[Guest Bret Sabermetric]

cooby wrote: But your list of a half dozen names may start to grow...

More mythmaking.

[Elster88]

I do know and I think we had this discussion before.

It was objectional all along. Not even necessarily because it's Christ in particular who is depicted, but because it's someone covered in blood screaming in agony.

My point is that this picture is now on every one of your posts, whereas the original post is buried away somewhere that I don't have to look at it.
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[Guest KC]

Bret Sabermetric, message board boy scout.

I hope your happy, I'm breaking out in hives.

[Guest martin]

i am sort of new around here, but this bret sabermetric fellow is the sort of "look at me!" guy that makes me tired of other places.