which trade you'd most like undone

[Gwreck]

Both Kazmir and Ryan deals are equals in value received (bupkis) but Ryan had so much longer a career as a dominating pitcher (even if considered an innings-eater, which he was, too) that I think he maybe answers the OP here, in terms of "numbers of World's Championships his loss cost the Mets." I think Ryan's peak was higher than Kazmir's too, and he repeated that season about a dozen times.

Why, in this exercise, would we attribute Ryan's entire career to the Mets after undoing the trade? He hit free agency multiple times in his career and could have been reacquired by the Mets any number of times.



Accordingly, it's fair to say that 1973 Ryan on the Mets could probably yield another championship. But even if you transplant his other 1970s pre-free agent seasons back to the Mets…do you even get playoff teams those other years?



Maybe 1980s Ryan puts the Mets on top an additional year but the trade didn't prevent that.

[batmagadanleadoff]

=roger_that post_id=96172 time=1655411805 user_id=128] but you really can't complain about the immediate results.

[roger_that]

=Gwreck post_id=96178 time=1655413622 user_id=56]*

Why, in this exercise, would we attribute Ryan's entire career to the Mets after undoing the trade? He hit free agency multiple times in his career and could have been reacquired by the Mets any number of times.

[roger_that]

Newest nominee:https://cubbiescrib.com/2022/06/18/cubs-acquiring-pete-crow-armstrong-fleeced-mets/https://cubbiescrib.com/2022/06/18/cubs-acquiring-pete-crow-armstrong-fleeced-mets/



The Crow-Armstrong Deal!! Were We Robbed or Bamboozled?

[smg58]

I wouldn't have dealt Crow-Armstrong for two months of Baez, but I also wouldn't rush to judgement because somebody made a mockery of A-ball pitching.



Has anybody mentioned the Heath Bell deal? 90+ innings of sub-2 ERA pitching might have helped our pen out a bit in 2007.

[Edgy MD]

Yeah, I can dislike that trade — I dislike 'em all — but so far, the Mets are the only team to make any bank on it.

[roger_that]

Edgy MD wrote: Yeah, I can dislike that trade — I dislike 'em all — but so far, the Mets are the only team to make any bank on it.

We will revisit this one in a couple of decades.

[roger_that]

Edgy MD wrote: Yeah, I can dislike that trade — I dislike 'em all — but so far, the Mets are the only team to make any bank on it. We will revisit this one in a couple of decades. I did think that was a very silly article, focusing more on a minor leaguer doing well rather than Baez's career imploding.

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

People in Detroit are not happy with Baez, for sure.

[roger_that]

Baez was perhaps the strangest Met in memory.

[Edgy MD]

=Marshmallowmilkshake post_id=96796 time=1655756999 user_id=119]
People in Detroit are not happy with Baez, for sure.