get On-BoArd with this kwiz

[Frayed Knot]

Inspired by a Wayne Garrett discussion during a recent IGT, your job is to list the top 10 Mets in order of their greatest walk rate as a NYM.

For purposes of this quiz, ‘Walk Rate' is defined as the simple difference between a player's career BA & OBA even though that may not quite

measure only his ‘batting eye' for a player with a large number of intentional walks and/or HBPs



Also, the answers can only come from among those in the top 30 of At Bats as a Met -- which translates into 2,200+ ABs -- so you need to

restrict your guesses to only those.



Three points for correct name

Minus one point for incorrect name

Add two bonus points for correct placement

No multiple guesses, no consecutive guesses, yadda yadda blah balh



1st place prize = Cadillac Eldorado

2nd place = Set of steak knives

3rd place = You get to go first in Double Jeopardy



And, as always, those who are late do not get fruit cup

[batmagadanleadoff]

You just disqualified John Olerud. What a drag.

[batmagadanleadoff]

OK. Put me down for Wayne Garrett, top tenner. Let's make him #1 all time. Why not?

[Frayed Knot]

And it turns out that Wayne Garrett actually IS the winner of the Wayne Garrett inspired quiz.

With a stunning IsoW of .111 [.247 BA / .348 OBA] he is the #1 walk-drawer-rate-guy of all NYMs



Olerud, btw, is at .110 but doesn't qualify for this quiz as he barely cracks the top 50 in NYM ABs

	Place		PLAYER		Walk Rate
	1)		Wayne Garrett		.111
	2)
	3)
	4)
	5)
	T-6
	T-6
	T-6
	9)
	10)

BatMags = 5 Points

[Edgy MD]

Well, the 2,200 eliminates Rickey Henderson, the greatest walker of all time, and I'm pretty sure he would be #1 if the limit was 500 or 600 at-bats.



I'll go with Lee Mazzilli.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Frayed Knot wrote: And it turns out that Wayne Garrett actually IS the winner of the Wayne Garrett inspired quiz. With a stunning IsoW of .111 [.247 BA / .348 OBA] he is the #1 walk-drawer-rate-guy of all NYMs Olerud, btw, is at .110 but doesn't qualify for this quiz as he barely cracks the top 50 in NYM ABs Place PLAYER Walk Rate 1) Wayne Garrett .111 2) 3) 4) 5) T-6 T-6 T-6 9) 10)

BatMags = 5 Points


It had to be Garrett. Garrett's OBP's were as good as anybody's in franchise history, but he was putting up sub .250 batting averages. He had to have been a walking monster to do that.

[Frayed Knot]

	Place		PLAYER		Walk Rate
	1)		Wayne Garrett		.111
	2)
	3)
	4)
	5)		Lee Mazzilli		93
	T-6
	T-6
	T-6
	9)
	10)

BatMags = 5 Points

Edgy 3 Points

[batmagadanleadoff]

I'll go with Dave Magadan, 2nd best walk rate.

[Edgy MD]

I'll go with Curtis Granderson, #5.

[Frayed Knot]

Neither Dave Magadan (34th in ABs - .099 IsoW) nor Curtis Granderson (35th - .102) qualifies



BatMags = 4

Edgy = 2

[batmagadanleadoff]

Edgy MD wrote: Well, the 2,200 eliminates Rickey Henderson, the greatest walker of all time, and I'm pretty sure he would be #1 if the limit was 500 or 600 at-bats....

Could be. Rickey flirted with a .400 OBA for most of 1999 until he trailed off a bit with an end of season slump. But 2000 might have clinched it for him -- his batting average fell through the floor, but his OBA remained at HOF caliber strength. Like the end of Willie Mays's career.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Keith. 2nd place. When we're talking Mets, he's like Liberace. You don't need to hear his last name to know who I'm talking about.

[Frayed Knot]

	Place		PLAYER		Walk Rate
	1)		Wayne Garrett		.111
	2)
	3)
	4)
	5)		Lee Mazzilli		93
	T-6		Keith Hernandez		90
	T-6
	T-6
	9)
	10)

BatMags = 8 Points

Edgy 3 Points

[Chad ochoseis]

I think Beltran had an OBP up around .400 as a Met, and he probably cracked the top 30 in ABs. 6th?

[Frayed Knot]

Beltran hit .280 / .369 as a Met, good enough for [CROSSOUT]10th[/CROSSOUT] 9th place

	Place		PLAYER		Walk Rate
	1)		Wayne Garrett		.111
	2)
	3)
	4)
	5)		Lee Mazzilli		93
	T-6		Keith Hernandez		90
	T-6
	T-6
	9)		Carlos Beltran		89
	10)

BatMags = 8 Points

Edgy 3 Points

Chad O = 3 Points





Rickey (118) would have won, but he had half as many NYM ABs as Duffy Dyer and it would have taken me forever to put this together if I went that deep.







oe: quick correction on Beltan's placement

[MFS62]

[CROSSOUT]Al Moran[/CROSSOUT] (just kidding)

Mike Piazza



Later

[batmagadanleadoff]

David Wright, 2nd place.

[Frayed Knot]

Piazza (.077) didn't walk as much as one might have thought he would.

He winds up 14th on this list.



Wright, was 13th (.080)



BatMags = 7 Points

Edgy 3 Points

Chad O = 3 Points

MFS = -1

[Edgy MD]

One of those ties for sixth is Strawb.

[Edgy MD]

And please double check Magadan and Granderson. I don't see how they couldn't be there.

[Frayed Knot]

Edgy MD wrote: One of those ties for sixth is Strawb.

Like the late Dr. John, you're in the right place but the wrong time ... or something like that.

	Place		PLAYER		Walk Rate
	1)		Wayne Garrett		.111
	2)				97
	3)		Darryl Strawberry		96
	4)				94
	5)		Lee Mazzilli		93
	T-6		Keith Hernandez		90
	T-6				90
	T-6				90
	9)		Carlos Beltran		89
	10)				83

[Frayed Knot]

Edgy MD wrote: And please double check Magadan and Granderson. I don't see how they couldn't be there.

Because they were 34th & 35th in ABs and so they don't qualify as per the above rules.









BatMags = 7 Points

Edgy 6 Points

Chad O = 3 Points

MFS = -1

[ashie62]

Kevin McReynolds

[Edgy MD]

Wally Backman. Fourth.

[ashie62]

Howard Johnson 4th

[Frayed Knot]

BUDDY!!

Unlike Rey, he complemented his generally weak bat and great glove with a relatively high OBP (.234/.324)

	Place		PLAYER		Walk Rate
	1)		Wayne Garrett		.111
	2)				97
	3)		Darryl Strawberry		96
	4)				94
	5)		Lee Mazzilli		93
	T-6		Keith Hernandez		90
	T-6		Howard Johnson		90
	T-6		Bud Harrelson		90
	9)		Carlos Beltran		89
	10)				83

BatMags = 7 Points

Edgy 5 Points

Chad O = 3 Points

Ashie: +3 -1 = 2 = 2

MFS = -1

[Edgy MD]

That's because I meant Buddy Harrelson.

[Frayed Knot]

BUDDY!!

Unlike Rey, he complemented his generally weak bat and great glove with a relatively high OBP (.234/.324)

	Place		PLAYER		Walk Rate
	1)		Wayne Garrett		.111
	2)				97
	3)		Darryl Strawberry		96
	4)				94
	5)		Lee Mazzilli		93
	T-6		Keith Hernandez		90
	T-6		Howard Johnson		90
	T-6		Bud Harrelson		90
	9)		Carlos Beltran		89
	10)				83

BatMags = 7 Points

Edgy = 8 Points

Chad O = 3 Points

Ashie: +3 -1 = 2 = 2

MFS = -1

[Frayed Knot]

I somehow erased the post where I said that Backman & McReynolds were wrong but that HoJo was right - although not in the right place.

[Edgy MD]

Yeah, I feel like I got something right before I got it right.