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Lefty Specialist wrote: Exactly. So I was watching and listening to sports programs and sports radio and all these goons are saying that there's 'no way' the Mets can get back to the WS without a top-notch Harvey. Because, they rationalize, that last year the Mets had the luxury of of being able to put Colon and whoever else in the bullpen while their upper echelon guys were given the starts. Without Harvey, they are now short of a top-flight starter so they won't be in that position. Am I mistaken or is Zack Wheeler not expected back this month? And if healthy - no reason to believe he won't be - doesn't Wheeler sort of slot right in to Harvey's spot? And if so, doesn't that then allow the Mets to set up a possible postseason staff in a similar way to last year? Granted, there's a few assumptions but even so, not one of these supposed sports media 'professionals' even mentioned Wheeler. They all seem to be harping on the doom and gloom aspect of this. On SNY they even had a doctor (may have been the actual guy that they consulted on Harv, if not the guy thats seeing him today) and this guy even said that its a distinct possibility that this could be fixed with a relatively minor proceedure. He also said that it may be a more significant proceedure invloving the removal of a rib. But again - even if its that dire, the Doc said that he performed THAT proceedure on Josh Beckett and Beckett came back just fine. Kenny Rogers too! Why they gotta be so negative man? I'm looking at this as a good thing. If in fact the Thoracic Outlet Syndrome is causing Harvey numbness, it probably explains everything. His velocity is fine, its his feel for the ball which he says his resulting in his problems with location. Get the Roto-Rooter truck working and Lets Go!

Look out, Ed! Doubles in a Metly Career 1) David Wright: 390 Jose Reyes, Projected to End of Season: 282 2) Daniel Murphy: 228 3) Ed Kranepool: 225 4) Jose Reyes: 224 =#FF8000]Jose Reyes at Start of Season: 222 5) Howard Johnson: 214 6) Edgardo Alfonzo: 212 7) Carlos Beltran: 208 8) Mike Piazza: 193 9) Darryl Strawberry: 187 10) Cleon Jones: 182 Jose is projected to hit 58 more doubles this year? Bring it!

soupcan wrote: With the ASG break coming he'll probably only miss 2-3 starts, tops. I'm guessing there's nothing physically wrong with him anyway. Give him an extended bit of time to work on things without worrying about the next start. It's not like they can't replace what little he's been giving them lately anyway. Okay so I was wrong about Harv being hurt but my other point still stands.

Edgy MD wrote: soupcan wrote: And if it's blocked they unblock it and - PRESTO! - the Dark Knight Returns! Well, in Cone's case, it was the majority of the year missed. Cone had a 'clot', Harvey's got a 'block'. Totally different word.

And if it's blocked they unblock it and - PRESTO! - the Dark Knight Returns!

With the ASG break coming he'll probably only miss 2-3 starts, tops. I'm guessing there's nothing physically wrong with him anyway. Give him an extended bit of time to work on things without worrying about the next start. It's not like they can't replace what little he's been giving them lately anyway.

I was at this game by myself as a result of unforeseen circumstances and scored it. I hadn't scored a MLB game in a long, long time. Sat by myself, paid attention to every at bat. Great fun. Last out made, I got up and left. Had no idea Mattingly was able to challenge the game-ending dp until I was in my car.

Zvon wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Who made that comparison? I mean, my first reaction would be that Pence is a righty. Our booth. One of the three great ones introduced it, can't recall which. Gary said it the other night.

Edgy MD wrote: Not for nothing, but when facing the media and trying to swim upstream against a narrative of domestic violence, the ol' sleeveless tee is maybe not the best choice. I think you gotta cut him some slack here. The guy is either about to go work out or just finished.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: soupcan wrote: Welcome home... (I have a friend at the presser) Is he wearing a track suit and a fedora? Works at NY1.

Welcome home... (I have a friend at the presser)

Ceetar wrote: Hell fans were ready to jettison d'Arnaud this spring for Plawecki. Now you're talking crazy talk.

d'Kong76 wrote: I'm not at all jazzed up about his return. Is he gonna start? Who's he gonna bump? Flores is en fuego. The team is on fire. I trust Terry not to muck up the mojo.

I dont think 8 should be retired, I dont think 15 should be retired and as much as I dig Jose, I don't think Travis should give up 7 for him.

Frayed Knot wrote: Maybe if I get some time I'll look back through the stats and do an Armando vs Jeurys comparison to see who looks better when viewed through these same conditions. THAT would be interesting. I'd be curious to know that. Frayed Knot wrote: soupcan wrote: Benitez -v- Familia in the World Series was more like an expectation of failure coming true as opposed to just being surprised that Jeurys couldn't handle it. If that makes sense. Again, it makes sense through the lens of preconceived assumptions and feelings. Right, and that was the whole debate about Benitez - perception versus reality. With Jeurys I just get the feeling that he's got something Armando didnt have. Whether it can be measured or not. It seems like he gets himself in situations where the blow up is coming and then...he doesnt let it happen.

He said he did it to John Grisham too. Worth a try Mole, no?

Frayed Knot wrote: -- responding to Soupcan -- Except that part of the argument against Benitez **split thread alert** was that even if he saved a game he made a total drama out of it when he did - which is, of course, exactly what Familia did tonight. Also letting Jeurys off the hook for his post-season slip-ups was more than the Benitez detractors would have done for him. Yeah but if Benitez didn't blow so many of those games I don't think people would've cared about the drama. Benitez -v- Familia in the World Series was more like an expectation of failure coming true as opposed to just being surprised that Jeurys couldn't handle it. If that makes sense.

In the classic Armando Benitez debates of the earlier part of this century I was a devoted follower of the arguments put forth by the respected Hall of Fame poster, Centerfield. Centerfield challenged those who dared to say that Benitez was a choker in 'big' games, effectively daring them to define what is 'big' and by their failures to do so, he would point out that Benitez numbers were just as good as, if not better then, other elite closers throughout the league. Watching Familia though, I do see a closer that to this point in his career has something that Benitez did not appear to have. I realize that Jeurys' World Series was a disaster but I'm giving him a bit of a pass in that it was his very first postseason not to mention his first season as a closer. This kid has something that Benitez did not. Like the 'big' game, I can't define what it is,but it's there.

If you're interested and dont have SiriusXM, you can listen to a few 'highlights' here: LENNY DYKSTRA: GREAT AT BASEBALL, EVEN BETTER AT PLEASING WOMEN

Edgy MD wrote: Just noticed a cover blurb from Stephen King. He talked about that. He said he 'Pearl-Harbored' King to get the quote. Went to his house with the book and badgered him to read it and give him a quote. Lenny used the phrase 'Pearl-Harbored' maybe 4 different times in the interview to describe surprising or sneaking up on someone.

Lenny was just on Howard Stern this morning promoting his book. He's a complete trainwreck - surprise! Apparently he has no teeth, he is very hard to understand as he mumbles and speaks very softly. Sounded like he was drunk or high but swearing he was sober and has been for years. Really had nothing interesting to say.

Frayed Knot wrote: There's a radio guy in DC who alternately refers to Strasberg as 'The Orchid' or '75 and Sunny' because of him seemingly being unable to thrive under anything but perfect conditions. 'The Orchid'. I like that.

I'll preface this by saying - again - that I know I'm biased here and wouldn't bother to make the same argument for a guy I don't care about on a team I don't care about (Chapman/Yankees). If you're saying that Jose's domestic abuse situation is the reason you don't want him back on the Mets, then are you saying that he - and anyone else in his position - doesn't deserve a second chance? Do you believe that once this kind of thing happens in a relationship that there is no coming back from it? That no amount of therapy or contrition can change the person? I've been married for over 20 years and I know that marriage ain't easy. There have been times when I've been so angry that I may have wanted to lash out physically. I never did because however angry or frustrated I was, my sense of humanity, decency, whatever stopped me. But I can't assume that every relationship is like mine and that every person has had the same life and life experiences I've had. I'm not saying that domestic violence is ever acceptable or should ever be excused but what I am saying is that we shouldn't paint everyone with the same broad brush. Even the experts and advocates for the abused believe that relationships sometimes can become even stronger and more respectful following a domestic violence instance. In a lot of those cases one of the greatest factors is placing the abuser in a supportive environment with people whom he respects and feels responsibility toward. With Reyes that seems to be what is happening. We all loved this guy once and uniformly thought of him as a 'good guy'. Why not give him another chance at becoming the guy we all thought he once was? He's said all the right things, he's done all the right things.

6th inning, 1-0 Braves. This Noffense is starting to annoy me.

I'm thankful for two things: -The Mets won. -I don't have to listen to Verducci any longer. Not necessarily in that order.