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=kcmets post_id=96551 time=1655590245 user_id=53] I'm anti-stupidity.

Nieto is helping Walker accumulate Ks. He's pulled a few balls into the strike zone. The ump is being particularly cooperative as well.

He does specify, but his argument rests on the need for pitchers to maintain their approach, whatever the situation. If they can adjust to being in a spot where they need to throw strikes because they're in a tie game with the bases loaded, what would prevent them from making a similar adjustment way ahead?

Giving an example of adjusting your approach based on the situation, is how. Another, opposite example would be if you're determined not to put a ball in the strike zone against a particular batter (but you don't want to walk him). So you'll throw OUT of the strike zone, trying to get him to bite on a bad pitch. Point is, that's just a part of a pitcher's skill set: sometimes you need to throw strikes, sometimes you need to throw balls, and every pitcher in MLB should be able to do either on demand. Not gonna be able to execute 100%, of course, but with a 7 run lead, you're not doing your job if you're walking the ballpark. (And you are doing your job if you're getting pounded and the balls are eluding your fielders' glove.)

Lindor! 2 RBI HR!

dinosaur jesus wrote: Pitchers aren't going to change their approach just because they're way ahead. They're still trying to pitch. Disagree. Everyone can shrink and expand the zone, depending on the situation. You've got a tie game, on the road, bases loaded, 9th, and you're telling me your pitcher is going to work the corners just because that's his game? That's completely insane.

Walker's slider looking good. 4 K in 2 IP.

I don't think I'm trying to make the case that athletes never make mistakes. Sometimes you try to throw a pitch low and it ends up high. I'm talking about an inability to put the ball where you want it consistently. I'm talking about some relatively low-level task, such as pitching in a way that makes sense only in a specific situation, with a gigantic lead and innings to be eaten up. You want in that circumstance to avoid walks, and it doesn't matter much if you get hit hard, if you give up a nearly run every inning, a rate that won't make it on the MLB level long-term, but is suitable for this situation. Ankiel and Steve Blass pitched themselves out of MLB in pretty short order. This is a very black mark on Medina's ability--again, not that he pitched a shitty few innings, which happens to everyone once in a while, but that he had one relatively simple job, to throw strikes, and he could not do it. If he'd thrown strikes and gotten hit hard, I'd just say it was one of those hard luck nights, whaddya gonna do.

Just an example, not looking for a discussion of what Buck said to him, but what do YOU think went wrong with Medina last night? Folks all the time maintain that MLB pitchers can throw strikes all day long, any time they choose, but to me Medina last night is a perfect example of that thesis being simply WRONG. The one thing Medina knew not to do with a huge lead was walk people. Walking batters was counterproductive in several different ways: aside from not wanting to give the Marlins baserunners for free, he also wanted to keep his pitch count down so he could as long as he was effective, and preserve the bullpen for the next few nights. If he gives up a few solo HRs, but gets numerous long fly outs and strikeouts, ok, you can live with that, but almost every pitch he throws with that kind of lead should be in the strike zone, and those few that aren't should be borderline strikes. If you can't get six outs or nine outs while giving up a few harmless runs, then your stuff is shit. There's just no excuse for walking the universe in that situation. Far as Im concerned, Medina's instructions last night were very simple: "No walks. I don't care if you get lit up out there, but NO WALKS. Got it? Zero walks. I don't even want you to go three balls on anyone, but ABSOLUTELY NO WALKS." Giving him credit for obeying that simple rule (or for understanding it implicitly with a seven run lead), doesn't an outing like that prove that MLB pitchers do NOT have the kind of control that is often attributed to them?

This shit makes me crazy. Big lead, throw strikes. When people say that big-league pitchers can throw strikes any time they choose, I like to show them games like this.

Marlins' TV crew said Medina has a gigantic reverse platoon, 4 bazillion vs. righties, nuthin against lefties. I think that went up tonight.

And that's it for Carrasco tonight.

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: I don't have any memory of Ostrosser as a player but could tell you he wore no. 19. Thanks for turning a cool humblebrag into a douchy one, though. That part was great. Sorry. I shoot for funny, sometimes I hit douchy by mistake.

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=96404 time=1655501967 user_id=68] =roger_that post_id=96403 time=1655501592 user_id=128] =batmagadanleadoff post_id=96400 time=1655501399 user_id=68] How would he not know Ostrosser's name if he guessed right?

=MFS62 post_id=96402 time=1655501529 user_id=60]Ostrosser is Canadian.

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=96400 time=1655501399 user_id=68] =roger_that post_id=96398 time=1655501300 user_id=128] =batmagadanleadoff post_id=96394 time=1655501027 user_id=68] Did who know his name?

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=96394 time=1655501027 user_id=68] =roger_that post_id=96392 time=1655500902 user_id=128] Yes! At last. Brian Ostrosser. Excellent job--did you know his name?

He was called up when Bud Harrelson busted a bone in his sternum and went on the 15-day IL (!!!!), was sent back to Tidewater when Buddy healed.

Yes! At last. Brian Ostrosser. Excellent job--did you know his name?

Edgy MD wrote: Ross Jones, come on down! Is an infielder, but no. Ross Jones, stay wherever the hell you've been staying. Honestly, I'd be very impressed if any of yuz have heard of this guy.

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Joe gzrenda Also not an infielder (I think--a pitcher, right?) But no anyway.

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Pweeg Yes. The pronunciation, not the player.

=kcmets post_id=96374 time=1655500105 user_id=53] Jim Beauchamp is my final dart

Chad ochoseis wrote: Rich Puig No. Although strangely, when my oldest child was born the other expectant father in the maternity ward with me was named "Rich Puig" and he looked at me like I'd completely lost my mind when (naturally) i asked him if he used to play for the Mets. Apparently, he'd never heard of the famous ball-playing Rich Puig.

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=96372 time=1655499992 user_id=68] =batmagadanleadoff post_id=96371 time=1655499922 user_id=68] Bobby Heise?