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Edgy MD wrote: As the Braves have demonstrated, frequently young, pre-free-agency players are signed above and beyond their arbitration value in exchange for an extension beyond their arbitration eligibility. That allows teams and players to split the risk. It's a path the Mets have only occasionally taken, but their young stars have frequently been pitchers, with whom the risk-reward ratio is different. But Alonso and/or McNeil would definitely be candidates for that sort of contract. As I keep saying, "money" needs to be defined differently in the Steve Cohen era, as does "risk" and perhaps half of the English language, but there's time enough (I think Alonso has two more years of eligibility for an Arby's sandwich) to extend him modestly. I think if they offer to extend him in a year's time for another three years (at superduperstar rates, naturally) that would be prudent on both the team's and the player's part. Players can always be pissed if you take them too close to the edge, or if you don't offer enough years to suit them, and so opt to play out their contracts at 100% personal risk of falling into a manhole, but there's the beauty of free agency: you take the risk-free year, and pay gazillions to someone else.

extend him out for several years Why? To throw millions of dollars around needlessly and screw themselves if he comes down with a career-ending injury in the next two years?

Sometimes, when we Cutch....

the MLB Players' Union forces these guys to always accept the biggest offer, You mean they're not taking into account the way some areas have better school systems?

Hey, second opinions cost money. You think the Mets have co-pay dollars just laying around? how much the two-time All-Star wanted to rejoin the Twins after spending the 2022 season with the organization. OK, I'll bite: how much? And why? I get it that $200 mill in hand is more than 157 mill in hand, but why would anyone want to play in a small-market with a much worse record and much less to spend than a megamarket coming off a 100-win season?

Benjamin Grimm wrote: "Assistant Major League Coach"? Is this something new? Well, for the first few decades I followed baseball, all coaches* got the title "Coach" which implied that they were coaching at the MLB level and that they functioned as the manager's assistant, so I guess this is equivalent to "Coach" plus six redundant syllables. *except for pitching coaches.

Cutch is one of those guys like Strawberry or Mattingly who seemed HoF-bound in his 20s, and definitely not in his 30s. I play a little game sometimes, sorta crude game that really doesn't work (because artificial parameters), where I take a guy's stats in his 20s and double them, to see the sort of career I projected for him through his age-29 season. Cutch rates, by that metric, through 2016 doubled, with just over 2600 hits, 350 HR, a 138 OPS+, a GG, a MVP (and two close finishes)--not quite HoF-worthy, but not too far. Since 2016, of course, he's OPS+ed 113 for five teams in six years, so it's completely OOTFQ now, but once upon a time....

Joe Posnanski's take. First he explains the Giants' botched signing as buyer's remorse and then The Mets are a little bit harder to explain, but again, as a guess — Correa's signing seemed a rash impulse buy from Cohen, not unlike Elon Musk and Twitter. It happened so incredibly fast (and while Cohen was on vacation in Hawaii), and I think when morning came, Cohen was like: “Wait a minute, what have I done here?” When the medical report popped up the way it did, I think Cohen was like: “OK, I still want him, but only on our terms.”

Like my mother, like, makes me do the dishes It's like so gross. . . Like all the stuff, like, sticks to the plates And its like, it's like somebody else's food, y'know It's like Grote.... Grote to the max, I'm sure, gag me with a spoon....

Edgy MD wrote: I disagree that money doesn't mean anything to Steve Cohen. Well, there was a little sarcasm, or irony, or hyperbole, or undetectable skepticism, mixed into my remark. It's not that money doesn't have any meaning for Steve Cohen. More like "We don't, and probably can't, conceive of money in precisely the same way that Steve Cohen thinks of it, and 'stupid' to us probably seems 'could be smart' to him much of the time."

I don't want it to be the Mets paying him Well, you have to understand that money doesn't mean anything to Steve Cohen, and all our quaint notions of "expensive" and "potentially ruinous" are obsolete. As are we, I suppose.

Can he play a hella CF? If so, that would help justify a roster spot--I don't think we have much depth if Nimmo goes down for a week or two.

Never let us down before: https://twitter.com/BenVerlander/status/1612711710888009729 So Coobie's favorite player was 100% wrong only hours before the news broke? He's getting to be Trump-like in his reverse barometer status: the more aggressively he asserts it, the more reliably you can rely on the opposite to be the case.

Never let us down before:

Funny, I was just reading Catfish Hunter's autobiography last night (I plan to hunt some catfish later this week is why) and I came across a passage where he described former Yankee pitcher Ken Clay (Sam's pappy*) as "Great slider, great arm, bad brains. He wouldn't listen to anybody." *Actually, upon checking, not. But "Hunter" is one of Sam Clay's middle names, it turns out.

Frayed Knot wrote: Also, the Tigers included a bat as a throw-in in that deal. Ba-DUMP!!

=whippoorwill post_id=116181 time=1672952052 user_id=79] make the Mets available nationwide again

Benjamin Grimm wrote: A.J., C.J., D.J., D.J., J.J., P.J., R.J. D'oh!

Benjamin Grimm wrote: You're not seeing what all of Edgy's examples have in common. Too subtle for the likes of me.

Edgy MD wrote: A.J. Ramos, C.J. Nitkowski, D.J. Carrasco, D.J. Dozier, J.J. Putz, P.J. Conlon, and R.J. Alvarez salute this signing. T.J. Rivera is all, "We had T. covered, dude." No respect for J.C. Martin?

Benjamin Grimm wrote: For some reason, the artwork has been pixelated. Of course it has. I was just goofing. It is a bit weird though. He lets people photograph his home but not his art?

According to this article https://www.businessinsider.com/billionaire-hedge-fund-manager-steve-cohen-sells-nyc-condo-photos-2019-5#the-homes-great-room-has-ceilings-that-are-more-than-12-feet-tall-7https://www.businessinsider.com/billionaire-hedge-fund-manager-steve-cohen-sells-nyc-condo-photos-2019-5#the-homes-great-room-has-ceilings-that-are-more-than-12-feet-tall-7 he had decorated the place with all this awful art, just big dull squares. It all looks the same, and all looks like a child could have painted it. Nice digs, though.

Is Uncle Steve still in Hawaii? He's not answering my texts. I would ask Steve Cohen directly--he lived across the street from me in the West Village for about six years, 2013-2019-- but no more are we neighbors. He sold his condo for 30 Million, about the time I broke up with my girlfriend whose house I was living in. When he first moved in (the building was a fabulously renovated former nursing home) my ex-GF, who works in finance, was all excited: "Steve COHEN is living right across the street from us!!" and I was all "Who's Steve Cohen?" I'd love to put a big sign in the front window: "Steve, wassup with Correa deal?" and such but alas.

Fascinating! Now do HRs.

Thanks. It's actually very satisfying doing little things like this. I always think "If you don't do it, eventually everyone who knows how to pronounce 'Agee' will be dead and there will be some idiotic controversy about the correct pronunciation." It's one of the reasons I spend hours on ancestry.com straightening out the parentage of some third cousin, four times removed--perpetuating errors chafes my chaps.