The other Manuel is being asked about removing Chase Utley during the post game press conference. Says: "ugh,...we were down,..we were down 10-2,..ugh,..and Chase is pretty banged up, ..ugh, and I felt he ,ugh(sniff)..needed the rest". Swindle was in so long due to Rudy Seanez back spasms making him not available and ol' Charlie did not want to use Romero tonight.