MFS62 wrote: There have been a lot of negatives mentioned in this and other threads about Jerry. So, I have to ask, what positives does Jerry bring to the table as manager? I like Jerrys patience. And his hutzpah. Like battin Reyes 3rd... I did not like it, I did not agree with it, but he did it in the face of adversity. And even when being pressured to stop doing it by media and fans, he felt he needed a certain amount of time to see if it would work. He believed in something and he went with it. And he stuck with it until he decided it wasn't going to work. Until HE decided. No knee jerk reaction to the pressures. Also his even keel. I like that in some managers and not in others.Some become bland. (I like the opposite in some managers but not in others.) I like it in Jerry. He has a good mix of calmness and humor. Most of all I like his patience. It's a long season and it suits the game. MFS62 wrote: And do you feel those positives are enough so you would want to retain him as manager? Yes, in my opinion. Lets face it. The way things are right now we have a third place team here. I pretty much felt that way coming out of spring training. This is not Jerrys fault. Yea, he should stay, at least until the All Star break if the team can keep its head, hey, even just its nose, above water. Many won't agree but I also am a very patient man.