John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: If this were the old days we'd have had this out years ago, but better just to ignore as usual. But let's get off this notion that we're all just great guys doing our best to try and get along here. If you're going to be a deliberate ignorant no-account shit you've got to be prepared to hear it from time to time. I totally agree with this. I think I get where Ashies at. He's fed up. We need pen help bad and they arent makin the moves in the front office, just biding their time. I don't blame him for being fed up. Look, I was fed up with the Mets and was at a point where I could not say or think anything positive about them. So I stopped coming here cause I thought whats the point of bringin everyone down if all I feel is negative. And that was stupid. Cause here is the place you should be able to be negative or fed up if that's the way you feel at the time. Maybe I'm viewing this wrong, maybe there's more going on than I know (I don't read everything). Maybe its none of my business. And sure, you can and should butt heads with another if you feel its needed. If I say something you can agree, disagree,put me in my place, whatever. k, Ill shuddup now. Bad game. Maybe the worst. Gah!