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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Manuel does have weird doghouse issues, though. Outside of obvious performance issues, I think that's what's been keeping Brown from logging regular major-league hours, even in seasons like last year, when the Phils have been playing for fourth and down to four healthy OF. Ceetar wrote: I get Ruf, but I'm not sure Mayberry and Nix really need AB. I'm not even sure Brown needs any. Looking at their outfield is why I think the Mets could easily have the third best OF in the division. Point is... well, look at the rate stats. Mayberry is the same guy as Young, only with more pronounced platoon splits and defense that doesn't make your eyes spontaneously bleed and oh yeah, he's cheaper and under control for two more years AND THEY ALREADY HAD HIM. (Nix is the same way, only opposite-handed, and without the team control bit.) Brown's a little Young-y, but he's still, well, young. And not fat. Yet. Oh, I don't think Young deserves AB over them, I think perhaps they all suck. Young's only two years older than Brown actually. Clearly Brown's the guy who's least proven himself to suck, only through 500 AB, that you should play. And I guess he's the one that would be playing RF if that's as reported, but now that he's here I doubt anyone cares if Young takes AB away from the other two.

smg58 wrote: Are you looking for anything in particular? Mike Trouts. I seem to lack quality middle infielders. Could always use more pitching. I might be able to float all that money on two players, but it seems smart to explore value for one of them.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Worse, he's being brought in to a situation where the Phils were struggling to figure out how to get promising Darin Ruf (.600 slugging at AA-- and a SSS .700-plus slugging in a majors cameo-- last year), Domonic Brown (like Young, but at least athletic and younger), John Mayberry, and Laynce Nix enough at bats in the corners. And Amaro aims to START Young over these guys, in right field (see above throwing GIFs). Yeah, he's cheap-- he also comes with some serious cost. And it's not just because he like to yell slurs at homeless people and has the BMI of a dying Kirby Puckett (although each of these things is true). I get Ruf, but I'm not sure Mayberry and Nix really need AB. I'm not even sure Brown needs any. Looking at their outfield is why I think the Mets could easily have the third best OF in the division.

Listening to reasonable offers for Verlander or Wright, Don't know if I want two players making that much on my team.

metsmarathon wrote: there are still a few teams over the cap, with 9 days to go before the cut deadline. drop your jason bays fast! oh crap, is cut deadlines!

smg58 wrote: He had all of 16 innings between the minors and the Puerto Rican winter league. Obviously it's a short sample and he did give up two home runs in that stretch, but overall his numbers looked all right. There doesn't appear to be an obstacle to him coming to ST ready to pitch. I bet he'll be at least as good as Byrdak has been the past two years. Byrdak's been pretty good. Not saying Pedro can't be better, but I heard someone say he was only clocking 86ish in the winter leagues.

been intrigued by Sherlock via Doctor Who commercial breaks.

Swan Swan H wrote: Section 112, Row D (Field, just past third base) for both. Careful what you say there, the Mets bullpen pitchers can here you. ;-)

Swan Swan H wrote: Just got tickets for March 14 and 16. where you sitting?

Learned a new word from that article, chyron, which is apparently used wrong since it's meant to represent the _bottom_ graphics on screens, and is a company name (so it's the Dumpster of rubbish bins) Scorebug is such a nicer word. I know deadspin has Mets fans, but this writer clearly isn't a regular one having ignored key clues like wall color (not blue, not 12. same with the scorebug, which was changed twice in '12) You can also pinpoint the year via wall advertising. Although I'm not really sure why it was necessary to deduce which cut scenes MLB provided the show in order to fit the dialogue in the first place. neat though. Should I be watching Elementary?

I think you'd be hard pressed to find a non-transitional manager. Most guys seem halfway out the door when they're hired. But if I was looking to be in the running for next playoff bound Mets manager, I'd figure the best place to be would be the Mets dugout.

seawolf17 wrote: seawolf17 wrote: Catcher Landon Powell is your Y. I'll stick him in 73. 14 Pretty sure that's retired, homeboy. well I already unretired it for Buck, so why not Landon?

seawolf17 wrote: Catcher Landon Powell is your Y. I'll stick him in 73. 14

seawolf17 wrote: I would totally go to a Howie Rose signing, by the way. Tempted to hit the Piazza, but I can't imagine how insane that line would be. Over/under on the percentage of people, upon handing him their book to sign, say "Put it in the book"?

Edgy MD wrote: David still gets the WBC nod. How did Head add 100 points to his slugging percentage last year? Oprah wants to know. in _San Diego_! 14.7% HR/FB rate is twice the MLB average. and more than 5x higher than the 2.8 he put up in 2011. He's a prime sell-high candidate. strikeouts rose too.

Only David Wright from the Mets will play in the Classic. A whole ton eliminated in the qualifying round. And about a billion ex-Mets will be there.

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Also, the Nationals were probably talking about Michael Morse much like we're talking about Cowgill and Brown right now. Marginally useful outfielders practically grown on trees which just means there are more often older guys that haven't gotten a fair shake yet that can make an impact.

I think the two things work at counter-purposes though. Acquiring quality starting outfielders is probably the biggest way for the Mets to become 'good', and the better they plug that hole, the less they need the righty backup outfielder to play. Not 400 AB certainly, and probably not even 200. You could certainly overpay for that, but I certainly wouldn't do 2 years of overpaying. It's the 2 years thing that really gets me. If the extra $2-3 for one year isn't costing you anything, certainly take the best possible player for said position, but I wouldn't commit to it not being needing a year in advance. But I suspected that last year, that Hairston had outproduced his value, particularly to the Mets.

Collins extended, Girardi fired.

seawolf17 wrote: Topps does a lot of that, yes. Cap'n Intangibles is card 2, Trout is 27, Felix is 34. Full list: http://sportscardradio.com/index.php/product-previews-a-reviews/1387-2013-topps-series-1-baseball-checklist ahh. is Topps bullish on Duda or something? Why is Mickey Mantle special to have his number retired?

Because the value of win 89-91 that Hairston could provide an expected 89 win team is worth a hell of a lot more to a team than the value of win 75-77 (or whereever you'd like to put the Mets) It doesn't really have to do with budget, or cheapness, or past situation. It's the current situation of the Mets and even if the Mets were 'big market' spenders, it doesn't make sense to spend it on Hairston, which is consistent with Alderson's MO so far.

Is the numbers intentional to match the uniform?

Edgy MD wrote: I run out of infinite money at least twice a week. I don't know how it keeps happening. Call Visa, they'll help.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Aren't you the guy who said that money wasn't finite? It's not, as an investment. investing in 4th outfielders with poor OBP is a good way to run out of even infinite money.