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="Benjamin Grimm":10a3hs2z]This is becoming one of those threads, isn't it?[/quote:10a3hs2z] I guess I provoked this by asking where MLB is promoting David Wright as the "Face of Baseball". Three pages later, evidence of that contention is still lacking. SteveJRogers Nov 17 2008 11:32 AM ="Willets Point":37j7vkjm]="Benjamin Grimm":37j7vkjm]This is becoming one of those threads, isn't it?[/quote:37j7vkjm] I guess I provoked this by asking where MLB is promoting David Wright as the "Face of Baseball". Three pages later, evidence of that contention is still lacking.[/quote:37j7vkjm] Who is on covers of MLB games? Who is the Met usually featured on TV ads and marketing tools of MLB? seawolf17 Nov 17 2008 11:34 AM ="SteveJRogers"]="Willets Point"]="Benjamin Grimm"]This is becoming one of those threads, isn't it? I guess I provoked this by asking where MLB is promoting David Wright as the "Face of Baseball". Three pages later, evidence of that contention is still lacking. Who is on covers of MLB games? Who is the Met usually featured on TV ads and marketing tools of MLB? Willets Point Nov 17 2008 11:38 AM ="SteveJRogers"]Who is on covers of MLB games? A Phillie. ="SteveJRogers"] Who is the Met usually featured on TV ads and marketing tools of MLB? That would make him the face of the Mets not MLB. Here in Boston, I'd wager most baseball fans wouldn't know who David Wright is whereas they'd be familiar with Albert Pujols or Ryan Howard or even other Mets like Delgado & Beltran. Wright is a great player but hasn't gained national attention by winning an MVP or some type of batting title or appearing in a lot of postseason games. I doubt people around the nation are gnashing their teeth about how much overexposure that Wright guy gets SteveJRogers Nov 17 2008 12:03 PM Okay fine, I'll ammend the argument to suggest that he WILL be attaining the heights of the Rose/Ripken/Jeter level of hate because his image is everywhere. And don't for a second think it won't. Edgy DC Nov 17 2008 12:07 PM And then people will hate justifiably. Got it. The silly thing is, Steve, irish's position and yours seem to be similar. If you weren't so fast to choose his as a leaping off point to push your agenda against the rest of us, you'd see that. metirish Nov 17 2008 12:29 PM How is my position similar to Steve's?, Edgy DC Nov 17 2008 12:31 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 18 2008 07:27 PM Well, you seem to imply that there's an unfortuate amount of hatred flying around. Where Steve breaks from you with his his apparent belief that everybody's exercising it but him. metirish Nov 17 2008 12:33 PM Jeez thanks , lump me in with Rogers. Edgy DC Nov 17 2008 12:42 PM Not at all. It would be an unattractive lump. Centerfield Nov 17 2008 01:46 PM I called Mariano Rivera a murderer. You may direct all correspondence on that subject to me. Thanks. metsmarathon Nov 17 2008 06:25 PM wait... who hates cal ripken? i mean, fine, the holiday inn commercials are insufferable and all, but that aside, does anybody really hate him? Willets Point Nov 17 2008 06:27 PM ="metsmarathon"]wait... who hates cal ripken? i mean, fine, the holiday inn commercials are insufferable and all, but that aside, does anybody really hate him? Millions of people hate Cal Ripken. Rogers has lists of all their names! cooby Nov 17 2008 07:37 PM Hey. What does blovating mean? Fman99 Nov 17 2008 07:42 PM ="cooby":1yvq0p7i]Hey. What does blovating mean?[/quote:1yvq0p7i] I don't know. But there is a 100% chance I work it into my CPF song parody challenge play-in game. cooby Nov 17 2008 07:47 PM Fman, if you do, I promise to vote for you HahnSolo Nov 17 2008 08:04 PM ="Edgy DC":3dmxgmap]Steve tries to get support for his viewpoint at a Yankee forum --- while endorsing "hate" as long as it remains baseless --- and annoys them into closing the thread: http://forums.nyyfans.com/archive/index.php/t-97459.html[/quote:3dmxgmap] He's an equal opportunity annoyer. John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 17 2008 08:40 PM Jeezziz. Valadius Nov 17 2008 08:56 PM Steve, I don't like the fact that you bad-mouthed me on another board. Nymr83 Nov 17 2008 09:12 PM wow board-drama. and steve can't even keep it on the board. hey steve, if this place is so bad that you have to complain about it elsewhere, why are you still here? metsguyinmichigan Nov 17 2008 09:29 PM Damn, stuck in a school board meeting all day and I missed this. 1) I hate Derek Jeter. He's Mr. Yankee 2) I like David Wright. A lot. He's Mr. Met, at least the non-costumed one. 3) Mariano Rivera is a soul-less cyborg with a dangerous pool. 4) Steve needs to keeps his beefs about the 'Pool family within the 'Pool family. All caught up. metsmarathon Nov 18 2008 07:37 AM i so wish i had seen this thread earlier yesterday... i still haven't gotten an answer on what evidence there is showing cal ripken's hatedness. and i still don't know how david wright parallels derek jeter. i also would think that the whole point of this thread, initially, was to point out what i would call special hate, not just the generic 'waah i hate XXX 'cos they're our rival and they suck and blah blah blah, and i hate YYY cos he's their best player and he sucks too!' the instances stevie seems to be pulling out about fans of other teams whining over wrights accomplishments and cheering his misaccomplishments seems more like hating on, than hating. "david wright doesn't deserve to win the mvp because YYY was a muuch better player and he didnt come through when they needed him anyways" isn't hating, its hating on, or deliberately (and perhaps intellectually dishonestly) minimizing his accomplishments and value. and of course, using sound logic and reasoning in a fact-based argument against the gross overrating of a player, well, that's not hating. that's called analyzing derek jeter. and he does a terrifically poor job of relaying the conversations of this board to other boards. i mean, jeez! Benjamin Grimm Nov 18 2008 07:51 AM ="metsmarathon":3by8ybm2]and he does a terrifically poor job of relaying the conversations of this board to other boards. i mean, jeez![/quote:3by8ybm2] Is that at all surprising? It's amazing how tenaciously he's held on to this issue, even going to other boards to try to get validation for his point of view. It's appropriate that his link back to us contained the phrase "getalifealready" Centerfield Nov 18 2008 07:56 AM For the record, I have no problem with him talking badly about us on other boards. In fact, I wish he would post on those other boards more often. Like all the time. Steve, don't go away mad... themetfairy Nov 18 2008 08:47 AM There was also the great leap of logic (if you can call it that) that Steve made. He asked, "How can you not like Mario Rivera?" I answered that I found the electrified pool to be a reason not to like him. He then extrapolated that I was blinded by irrational hatred, and posted about my obsessiveness all over the Internet. Yeah, I was the obsessed one here.... G-Fafif Nov 18 2008 09:10 AM I have to confess I barely remember the Mariano Rivera pool story and don't remember, at all, the conversation here about it. That said, fuck Mariano Rivera and fuck the Yankees. I mean, geez... soupcan Nov 18 2008 09:19 AM I didn't get much of a chance to get here yesterday and read most of this thread on my BlackBerry on the train home. "It's gold Jerry, pure gold!" Seriously, I was cracking up all the way home. Edgy DC Nov 18 2008 10:03 AM I keep Metro North moving. Kong76 Nov 18 2008 07:21 PM SJR: I'm clarifing it for you by holding up a fucking mirror <=== EDC: Don't fucking mirror me. <===

="SteveJRogers":mio4z02w]Also Wright is getting tons of Jeter-Hate based on his good looks, squeaky clean image and the fact that he is plastered every where as a "face of MLB."[/quote:mio4z02w] He is? Is this something from Rogers World or are you for real. SteveJRogers Nov 17 2008 09:23 AM ="Willets Point":22x1as5j]="SteveJRogers":22x1as5j]Also Wright is getting tons of Jeter-Hate based on his good looks, squeaky clean image and the fact that he is plastered every where as a "face of MLB."[/quote:22x1as5j] He is? Is this something from Rogers World or are you for real.[/quote:22x1as5j] Wouldn't you hate Wright if he WASN'T a Met the way you hate Derek Jeter? Edgy DC Nov 17 2008 09:26 AM I don't hate Derek Jeter. I don't like peeps over-rating his intangiblity, but even that's not an issue with tangible David Wright. SteveJRogers Nov 17 2008 09:27 AM Go to PhilaPhans.com or any Phillies (or Braves, Dodgers, Yankees, Red Sox, Marlins, etc) site and you'll see posts showing anger over Wright's Gold Glove and Silver Slugger awards and joy when Wright (or any Met) doesn't pick up the NL MVP later this week. Edgy DC Nov 17 2008 09:33 AM I'd rather you go, and tell me about it. Take a lot of pictures. Benjamin Grimm Nov 17 2008 09:51 AM Don't encourage him to report to us what idiots are saying all over the Internet. Because you know he will. SteveJRogers Nov 17 2008 09:55 AM ="Benjamin Grimm"]Don't encourage him to report to us what idiots are saying all over the Internet. Because you know he will. And by the same token Yankee fans consider US idiots because of our irrational hate for Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera, etc. Ditto Phillies fans considering US idiots because of our irrational (beyond the performance on the field) hate for Rollins, Howard, Utley, etc. Benjamin Grimm Nov 17 2008 09:58 AM Rollins is a big-mouth. Does anyone hate Howard or Utley? I haven't sensed that. And your affection for Mariano Rivera is pretty irrational too. SteveJRogers Nov 17 2008 10:01 AM ="Edgy DC":2h2w9ihq]I'd rather you go, and tell me about it. Take a lot of pictures.[/quote:2h2w9ihq] What is it with you wanting me to offer proof? The fact that everyone here thinks Mariano Rivera is a murderous scum and that a Rose/Jeter/Ripken type of "bigger than the game" mega pop-culture star is a POS person whom we should root AGAINST David Wright becoming is enough to know that idiots exist in all fandom with equal amounts of irrational hatred. To say nothing about Val rooting for a Yankee to not win an award or obtain a record, no matter how meaningless said award or record is. Frayed Knot Nov 17 2008 10:01 AM Met hate is mostly leftover stuff from the mid-80s or it's about being anti-NYC. And, either way, the specific reasons given for up-to-date hate; Reyes dancing, Wright's image, etc. are generally nothing more than rationalizations after the fact rather than actual reasons. IOW, once folks decide they dislike something it's easy to find specifics to justify it. SteveJRogers Nov 17 2008 10:03 AM ="Benjamin Grimm"] And your affection for Mariano Rivera is pretty irrational too. You have no further proof than CF/SK and other's "theories" that are asine based on the fact that they DON'T know what happened, they DON'T know what security is like in Panama, and they don't believe in blamming the kid for not checking to see if the fencing was off when he jumped in to get the rod. Edgy DC Nov 17 2008 10:03 AM Fucking Phillies, with their, um, big cars, and the, er, full pouty lips on their wives. I fucking hate those guys. SteveJRogers Nov 17 2008 10:04 AM ="Frayed Knot":3giahnqy]IOW, once folks decide they dislike something it's easy to find specifics to justify it.[/quote:3giahnqy] Ditto with the Rivera hate on this board. We hate the Yankees, Rivera was involved with a tragic accident on his property, MY GOD, RIVERA IS A MURDERER! Edgy DC Nov 17 2008 10:05 AM Steve, make up quotes by somebody else. SteveJRogers Nov 17 2008 10:06 AM You asked where the Met-Hate comes from, I'm clarifing it for you by holding up a fucking mirror. Edgy DC Nov 17 2008 10:09 AM Don't fucking mirror me. If I wrote anything like that, let me know. SteveJRogers Nov 17 2008 10:11 AM ="Benjamin Grimm"] And your affection for Mariano Rivera is pretty irrational too. Lets see: 1) The man is a man of God, and is essentially the Roberto Clemente of Panama. Very charitable and very much a pillar of that communtiy. Even if you disagree with his religious belief system, you have to at least admire that, and no it is not "SO HE PAINTS CHURCHES" it is about doing the work and not simply giving money to charity, it is about getting your hands dirty and doing the work. 2) Other than aforementioned incident in which I've found only people on this board feel that he is culpable for, there has been not a single sliver of controversy attached to him in any sort of either wrong doing, or him being labeled a jerk during brushes of greatness. In other words, he is one of the good guys of the game. Therefore, how is ANYONE's affection for him irrational? metirish Nov 17 2008 10:22 AM ] it is about getting your hands dirty and doing the work. If I'm paying him $15 million a year I don't want him doing the work , is he like laying blocks , that could be dangerous , he could break a finger , mixing cement? , he could hurt his shoulder. Frayed Knot Nov 17 2008 10:24 AM ="SteveJRogers":368piq4i]="Frayed Knot":368piq4i]IOW, once folks decide they dislike something it's easy to find specifics to justify it.[/quote:368piq4i] Ditto with the Rivera hate on this board. We hate the Yankees, Rivera was involved with a tragic accident on his property, MY GOD, RIVERA IS A MURDERER![/quote:368piq4i] You're embarrassing yourself again. SteveJRogers Nov 17 2008 10:25 AM ="metirish"]] it is about getting your hands dirty and doing the work. If I'm paying him $15 million a year I don't want him doing the work , is he like laying blocks , that could be dangerous , he could break a finger , mixing cement? , he could hurt his shoulder.. I was being metaphorical, obviously he isn't the one doing that kind of heavy lifting. Probably more in line with minister duties, making sure goods and foods are delievered, organizing, etc. Edgy DC Nov 17 2008 10:27 AM ="SteveJRogers":7s915vro]You asked where the Met-Hate comes from, I'm clarifing it for you by holding up a fucking mirror.[/quote:7s915vro] And it wasn't me that asked. SteveJRogers Nov 17 2008 10:30 AM ="Edgy DC":3mhnvlei]="SteveJRogers":3mhnvlei]You asked where the Met-Hate comes from, I'm clarifing it for you by holding up a fucking mirror.[/quote:3mhnvlei] And it wasn't me that asked.[/quote:3mhnvlei] Fair enough. themetfairy Nov 17 2008 10:31 AM ="SteveJRogers"]="Benjamin Grimm"] And your affection for Mariano Rivera is pretty irrational too. You have no further proof than CF/SK and other's "theories" that are asine based on the fact that they DON'T know what happened, they DON'T know what security is like in Panama, and they don't believe in blamming the kid for not checking to see if the fencing was off when he jumped in to get the rod. Fine - YOU go for a swim in his pool then. metirish Nov 17 2008 10:32 AM It was I that asked , blame the Irish if you must. Actually I never expected this kind of response , seriously , no really I didn't. Edgy DC Nov 17 2008 10:35 AM Thanks, can you cop to making up quotes to generalize about the entire board when the only one using words like that was centerfield? Can you cop to spinning the incident using nebulous terms like "was involved with"? Will you admit to being wrong that nobody else anywhere has criticized him? Can you get that mirror out of my face? I don't like it. I think Manny Corpas may be more popular among Panamanians, but don't throw a mirror at me if I'm wrong. John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 17 2008 10:40 AM omg Fman99 Nov 17 2008 10:45 AM ="SteveJRogers"]="Benjamin Grimm"] And your affection for Mariano Rivera is pretty irrational too. Lets see: 1) The man is a man of God, and is essentially the Roberto Clemente of Panama. Very charitable and very much a pillar of that communtiy. Even if you disagree with his religious belief system, you have to at least admire that, and no it is not "SO HE PAINTS CHURCHES" it is about doing the work and not simply giving money to charity, it is about getting your hands dirty and doing the work. 2) Other than aforementioned incident in which I've found only people on this board feel that he is culpable for, there has been not a single sliver of controversy attached to him in any sort of either wrong doing, or him being labeled a jerk during brushes of greatness. In other words, he is one of the good guys of the game. Therefore, how is ANYONE's affection for him irrational? Wow, you sound like Dennis Hopper's character in "Apocalypse Now." Time to start cutting the pills in half Jeets. I can hate Rivera - he wears a Yankee uniform. Duh. It's not rocket science or wizardry. Go play with your Giambi dolls. Edgy DC Nov 17 2008 10:46 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":yuzgwi48]omg[/quote:yuzgwi48] Yeah, I know. Manny Corpas. What was I thinking? SteveJRogers Nov 17 2008 10:48 AM ]Thanks, can you cop to making up quotes to generalize about the entire board when the only one using words like that was centerfield? Fine, but most of this board feels the same way as CF does. As evidence to the infamous thread between me and SK a few years back in the RLF. ]Can you cop to spinning the incident using nebulous terms like "was involved with"? No, because that is the extent of his involvement in the incident. There really isn't a smoking gun. ]Will you admit to being wrong that nobody else anywhere has criticized him? Other than blovating Yankee hating forum members? Seriously, try putting the theory on any rational board, even filled with Yankee haters, and you get looked like you wear a tin foil hat. Look, the point is that people have irrational hate for teams and players, that is the bottom line answer to Irish's original question. SteveJRogers Nov 17 2008 10:49 AM ="Fman99":3b129hmh] I can hate Rivera - he wears a Yankee uniform.[/quote:3b129hmh] I wasn't referring to "sports hate," I'm talking about hating on the human being that goes beyond the uniform. Benjamin Grimm Nov 17 2008 10:51 AM This is becoming one of those threads, isn't it? Edgy DC Nov 17 2008 10:55 AM ="SteveJRogers":1lqkd4ig]Fine, but most of this board feels the same way as CF does. As evidence to the infamous thread between me and SK a few years back in the RLF.[/quote:1lqkd4ig] Nonsense. Is there something between saint and murderer? You don't know how "most of this board" feels. ="SteveJRogers":1lqkd4ig]No, because that is the extent of his involvement in the incident. There really isn't a smoking gun.[/quote:1lqkd4ig] He'd be in deeper water in the United States. Of that, I think even you are certain. ="SteveJRogers":1lqkd4ig]Other than blovating Yankee hating forum members?[/quote:1lqkd4ig] Please don't tempt me with any more name-calling. You're wrong. SteveJRogers Nov 17 2008 10:59 AM ="Benjamin Grimm":2a4403r2]This is becoming one of those threads, isn't it?[/quote:2a4403r2] Me against all of you based on the fact that this group seems to be the only people who irrationally hate Mariano Rivera as a person, which I'm using as a point of people's irrational hate on sports teams and players? Yeah it does seem like it. Hell, I can't even find one person that agrees with CF's/SK's and other's theory on the former home of this forum, so what does that tell you? themetfairy Nov 17 2008 11:02 AM ="SteveJRogers":23qztokh] Hell, I can't even find one person that agrees with CF's/SK's and other's theory on the former home of this forum, so what does that tell you?[/quote:23qztokh] That nobody else around here is so obsessed that they want to go dig up ancient threads. The issue, btw, goes back to the person who was electrocuted in Rivera's pool a few years back. CF and I were pretty appalled by the incident. Steve, apparently, finds it excusable. Edgy DC Nov 17 2008 11:03 AM Steve Rogers talks shit about the Crane Pool on another forum: http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=84643 SteveJRogers Nov 17 2008 11:04 AM ="Edgy DC":1wmnx6qa]He'd be in deeper water in the United States. Of that, I think even you are certain. [/quote:1wmnx6qa] Security concerns are quite different here than Panama, of that I think even you are certain. Edgy DC Nov 17 2008 11:05 AM Good. What's your point, Crane Pool insulting guy? SteveJRogers Nov 17 2008 11:07 AM That people have irrational hate for teams and players based on a natural disposition to hate said team and players. metirish Nov 17 2008 11:09 AM ="Edgy DC":3rnp96ob]Steve Rogers talks shit about the Crane Pool on another forum: http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=84643[/quote:3rnp96ob] omg Edgy DC Nov 17 2008 11:10 AM Goodness, Steve. I challenged you to find one such statement from me. Stop with the sweeping generalizations. You're making 'em here. You're making 'em at sites that couldn't care less about us. seawolf17 Nov 17 2008 11:16 AM /throws some popcorn in the microwave /sits back and watches train wreck Edgy DC Nov 17 2008 11:17 AM Glad I could help your day along. Edgy DC Nov 17 2008 11:25 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 17 2008 11:26 AM Steve tries to get support for his viewpoint at a Yankee forum --- while endorsing "hate" as long as it remains baseless --- and annoys them into closing the thread: http://forums.nyyfans.com/archive/index.php/t-97459.html Willets Point Nov 17 2008 11:25 AM ="Benjamin Grimm":10a3hs2z]This is becoming one of those threads, isn't it?[/quote:10a3hs2z] I guess I provoked this by asking where MLB is promoting David Wright as the "Face of Baseball". Three pages later, evidence of that contention is still lacking. SteveJRogers Nov 17 2008 11:32 AM ="Willets Point":37j7vkjm]="Benjamin Grimm":37j7vkjm]This is becoming one of those threads, isn't it?[/quote:37j7vkjm] I guess I provoked this by asking where MLB is promoting David Wright as the "Face of Baseball". Three pages later, evidence of that contention is still lacking.[/quote:37j7vkjm] Who is on covers of MLB games? Who is the Met usually featured on TV ads and marketing tools of MLB? seawolf17 Nov 17 2008 11:34 AM ="SteveJRogers"]="Willets Point"]="Benjamin Grimm"]This is becoming one of those threads, isn't it? I guess I provoked this by asking where MLB is promoting David Wright as the "Face of Baseball". Three pages later, evidence of that contention is still lacking. Who is on covers of MLB games? Who is the Met usually featured on TV ads and marketing tools of MLB? Willets Point Nov 17 2008 11:38 AM ="SteveJRogers"]Who is on covers of MLB games? A Phillie. ="SteveJRogers"] Who is the Met usually featured on TV ads and marketing tools of MLB? That would make him the face of the Mets not MLB. Here in Boston, I'd wager most baseball fans wouldn't know who David Wright is whereas they'd be familiar with Albert Pujols or Ryan Howard or even other Mets like Delgado & Beltran. Wright is a great player but hasn't gained national attention by winning an MVP or some type of batting title or appearing in a lot of postseason games. I doubt people around the nation are gnashing their teeth about how much overexposure that Wright guy gets SteveJRogers Nov 17 2008 12:03 PM Okay fine, I'll ammend the argument to suggest that he WILL be attaining the heights of the Rose/Ripken/Jeter level of hate because his image is everywhere. And don't for a second think it won't. Edgy DC Nov 17 2008 12:07 PM And then people will hate justifiably. Got it. The silly thing is, Steve, irish's position and yours seem to be similar. If you weren't so fast to choose his as a leaping off point to push your agenda against the rest of us, you'd see that. metirish Nov 17 2008 12:29 PM How is my position similar to Steve's?, Edgy DC Nov 17 2008 12:31 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 18 2008 07:27 PM Well, you seem to imply that there's an unfortuate amount of hatred flying around. Where Steve breaks from you with his his apparent belief that everybody's exercising it but him. metirish Nov 17 2008 12:33 PM Jeez thanks , lump me in with Rogers. Edgy DC Nov 17 2008 12:42 PM Not at all. It would be an unattractive lump. Centerfield Nov 17 2008 01:46 PM I called Mariano Rivera a murderer. You may direct all correspondence on that subject to me. Thanks. metsmarathon Nov 17 2008 06:25 PM wait... who hates cal ripken? i mean, fine, the holiday inn commercials are insufferable and all, but that aside, does anybody really hate him? Willets Point Nov 17 2008 06:27 PM ="metsmarathon"]wait... who hates cal ripken? i mean, fine, the holiday inn commercials are insufferable and all, but that aside, does anybody really hate him? Millions of people hate Cal Ripken. Rogers has lists of all their names! cooby Nov 17 2008 07:37 PM Hey. What does blovating mean? Fman99 Nov 17 2008 07:42 PM ="cooby":1yvq0p7i]Hey. What does blovating mean?[/quote:1yvq0p7i] I don't know. But there is a 100% chance I work it into my CPF song parody challenge play-in game. cooby Nov 17 2008 07:47 PM Fman, if you do, I promise to vote for you HahnSolo Nov 17 2008 08:04 PM ="Edgy DC":3dmxgmap]Steve tries to get support for his viewpoint at a Yankee forum --- while endorsing "hate" as long as it remains baseless --- and annoys them into closing the thread: http://forums.nyyfans.com/archive/index.php/t-97459.html[/quote:3dmxgmap] He's an equal opportunity annoyer. John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 17 2008 08:40 PM Jeezziz. Valadius Nov 17 2008 08:56 PM Steve, I don't like the fact that you bad-mouthed me on another board. Nymr83 Nov 17 2008 09:12 PM wow board-drama. and steve can't even keep it on the board. hey steve, if this place is so bad that you have to complain about it elsewhere, why are you still here? metsguyinmichigan Nov 17 2008 09:29 PM Damn, stuck in a school board meeting all day and I missed this. 1) I hate Derek Jeter. He's Mr. Yankee 2) I like David Wright. A lot. He's Mr. Met, at least the non-costumed one. 3) Mariano Rivera is a soul-less cyborg with a dangerous pool. 4) Steve needs to keeps his beefs about the 'Pool family within the 'Pool family. All caught up. metsmarathon Nov 18 2008 07:37 AM i so wish i had seen this thread earlier yesterday... i still haven't gotten an answer on what evidence there is showing cal ripken's hatedness. and i still don't know how david wright parallels derek jeter. i also would think that the whole point of this thread, initially, was to point out what i would call special hate, not just the generic 'waah i hate XXX 'cos they're our rival and they suck and blah blah blah, and i hate YYY cos he's their best player and he sucks too!' the instances stevie seems to be pulling out about fans of other teams whining over wrights accomplishments and cheering his misaccomplishments seems more like hating on, than hating. "david wright doesn't deserve to win the mvp because YYY was a muuch better player and he didnt come through when they needed him anyways" isn't hating, its hating on, or deliberately (and perhaps intellectually dishonestly) minimizing his accomplishments and value. and of course, using sound logic and reasoning in a fact-based argument against the gross overrating of a player, well, that's not hating. that's called analyzing derek jeter. and he does a terrifically poor job of relaying the conversations of this board to other boards. i mean, jeez! Benjamin Grimm Nov 18 2008 07:51 AM ="metsmarathon":3by8ybm2]and he does a terrifically poor job of relaying the conversations of this board to other boards. i mean, jeez![/quote:3by8ybm2] Is that at all surprising? It's amazing how tenaciously he's held on to this issue, even going to other boards to try to get validation for his point of view. It's appropriate that his link back to us contained the phrase "getalifealready" Centerfield Nov 18 2008 07:56 AM For the record, I have no problem with him talking badly about us on other boards. In fact, I wish he would post on those other boards more often. Like all the time. Steve, don't go away mad... themetfairy Nov 18 2008 08:47 AM There was also the great leap of logic (if you can call it that) that Steve made. He asked, "How can you not like Mario Rivera?" I answered that I found the electrified pool to be a reason not to like him. He then extrapolated that I was blinded by irrational hatred, and posted about my obsessiveness all over the Internet. Yeah, I was the obsessed one here.... G-Fafif Nov 18 2008 09:10 AM I have to confess I barely remember the Mariano Rivera pool story and don't remember, at all, the conversation here about it. That said, fuck Mariano Rivera and fuck the Yankees. I mean, geez... soupcan Nov 18 2008 09:19 AM I didn't get much of a chance to get here yesterday and read most of this thread on my BlackBerry on the train home. "It's gold Jerry, pure gold!" Seriously, I was cracking up all the way home. Edgy DC Nov 18 2008 10:03 AM I keep Metro North moving. Kong76 Nov 18 2008 07:21 PM SJR: I'm clarifing it for you by holding up a fucking mirror <=== EDC: Don't fucking mirror me. <===

Why does Jesus hate the Mets? He only played on the club for one season, and his son's been pretty popular as a Met, albeit an oft-injured one.

="Vic Sage":35oihk9c]what are "DINKies"?[/quote:35oihk9c] Penises. Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 10:06 AM Double Income No Kids --- a key demographic that helped bring high property costs back to American cities in recent years. metirish Nov 14 2008 10:09 AM I'll believe all this when I see it , like The Atlantic Yards project in Brooklyn. John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 14 2008 10:14 AM It's not like the city sees eminent domain as anything but a last resort. It's all about the benjamins for these businesses, and so getting the city in as tight a jam as possible with the threat of a major asskicking drawnout lawsuit is one means to squeeze the most from it. This was on the editorial page in the Snooze the other day. I'm sure someone on Bloomy's staff did the ghostwriting, but its not like the biz owners on the other side are saying things without lawyer approval neither. ] Why I'm glad I sold my Willets Point property to the city By Carlos Canal Tuesday, November 11th 2008, 9:46 PM For more than 20 years, my family business, Flushing Towing, has been operating at Willets Point, Queens, where the city wants to clean up the land and build housing, parks, hotels and stores. The City Council is set to vote Thursday on whether to move forward with the city's plan to develop the site - the area right next door to the new Citi Field and close to LaGuardia Airport. Willets Point has been polluted and dirty since I can remember - even before I started my business here. The big landowners are fighting the city. They don't want us to sell our land. But people who want to stop this development need to hear what Willets Point is really like. They need to hear the story of my business, and why I decided to sell. Flushing Towing has three tow trucks, and our clients include anyone whose car breaks down in the five boroughs, in New Jersey or even in Connecticut. We tow cars back here to Willets Point or to another garage nearby to fix. At first, we were renting a lot, and then about six or seven years ago, we bought a 4,000-square-foot lot. I came to America when I was 18 years old from Cali, Colombia. I live in Flushing with my family, and part of my family still lives in Colombia. When I first heard about the city's project to develop Willets Point, I was not very interested in what was happening. The big landowners in Willets Point came around and said that the city was trying to steal the land. They told the small businesses to not talk to the city, and they are still pressuring owners and workers. They are using the small guys to push against the project. You get tired of this place. It's a disgrace. It's too dirty. It's filled with garbage and dust, and there are potholes everywhere. You can't keep anything in our shop clean. The area is filled with rats. If you put a piece of bread in the middle of Willets Point, a thousand rats would run out and attack it. There isn't a place like this anywhere else in New York City. The only people who come down here are people who don't want to pay too much to fix their cars. We worked with the city, and they explained the project to develop Willets Point - and then we agreed to sell our property. When we made a deal, the big businesses asked us why. But the big guys have a bigger interest in the property, and they make more money here. The city paid us more than we paid for it. For me, that was a good deal. I think everyone in Willets Point is different, and you have to find what is right for you. Some people around here think their land is worth a gold mine. They think they'll get a lot of money for their land. But no one will buy it. And why would anyone want to? This place is worse than an eyesore. It's not healthy and it needs to be cleaned up. My company is going to move to a better location in Queens. It's going to be better for us. We will have access to the same highways. We need space to park and store cars, and the new site gives us more room to expand. We are going to spend some money and buy another truck and maybe pay more drivers. It's going to be clean, and we will have sewers and bathrooms. The city has to do something with this property. It's disgusting, and you can't work here because it makes you sick. I think what Mayor Bloomberg wants to do at Willets Point is good for Corona, is good for Flushing, is good for Queens and is good for the city. I hope others, including members of the City Council, can understand that. Canal is the owner and operator of Flushing Towing, a family-owned business that has operated out of Willets Point for two decades. metirish Nov 14 2008 10:17 AM I read that and I thought it was funny , I was thinking that when the guy signed the contract that putting his name to that article above was part of the deal. Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 10:21 AM I think he got a nice incentive for his 12 paragraphs. Centerfield Nov 14 2008 10:36 AM Not mentioned by Carlos Canal from Cali, Colombia is why the city would allow Willets Point to exist in this filthy state, without sewers, and only now seeks to clean it up since a developer of their choice has plans to develop it. I can see both arguments for eminent domain, but since I don't own any land there and would like a better environment when I go to games, I'm all for this one. Go Bloomy. Build me some places to take the kids. Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 11:00 AM Since I don't own any land there and would like a better environment when I go to games, I'm all for the city bringing the full range of utilities to the area that the property owners should be entitled to. Valadius Nov 14 2008 12:35 PM If nothing else, this will FINALLY allow for a sewer system. metirish Nov 14 2008 12:36 PM ="Valadius":2jrwc3or]If nothing else, this will FINALLY allow for a sewer system.[/quote:2jrwc3or] For shitty field? John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 14 2008 12:46 PM It's not like you can go build on unimproved land then demand sewer pipes as if its your right. You notice these bizzes aren;t clamoring for that since they know that would mean the end of them anyway. Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 12:51 PM I thought you could.

Question for Zvon. Is your shirt open showing your Siegfried & Roy hairless chest or were you wearing a fleshtone t-shirt?

="Edgy DC":1ylk3h5q]="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1ylk3h5q]Gotta love the term "20% affordable housing." What does that makes the majority of it?[/quote:1ylk3h5q] Vacant luxury condoms waiting for DINKies to get their insane consumer confidence back.[/quote:1ylk3h5q] Damn! The rich even have luxury condoms for their dinkies. How are they different from regular condoms and why do they need to demolish so many businesses to store them near Citifield? Vic Sage Nov 14 2008 10:03 AM what are "DINKies"? Willets Point Nov 14 2008 10:05 AM ="Vic Sage":35oihk9c]what are "DINKies"?[/quote:35oihk9c] Penises. Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 10:06 AM Double Income No Kids --- a key demographic that helped bring high property costs back to American cities in recent years. metirish Nov 14 2008 10:09 AM I'll believe all this when I see it , like The Atlantic Yards project in Brooklyn. John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 14 2008 10:14 AM It's not like the city sees eminent domain as anything but a last resort. It's all about the benjamins for these businesses, and so getting the city in as tight a jam as possible with the threat of a major asskicking drawnout lawsuit is one means to squeeze the most from it. This was on the editorial page in the Snooze the other day. I'm sure someone on Bloomy's staff did the ghostwriting, but its not like the biz owners on the other side are saying things without lawyer approval neither. ] Why I'm glad I sold my Willets Point property to the city By Carlos Canal Tuesday, November 11th 2008, 9:46 PM For more than 20 years, my family business, Flushing Towing, has been operating at Willets Point, Queens, where the city wants to clean up the land and build housing, parks, hotels and stores. The City Council is set to vote Thursday on whether to move forward with the city's plan to develop the site - the area right next door to the new Citi Field and close to LaGuardia Airport. Willets Point has been polluted and dirty since I can remember - even before I started my business here. The big landowners are fighting the city. They don't want us to sell our land. But people who want to stop this development need to hear what Willets Point is really like. They need to hear the story of my business, and why I decided to sell. Flushing Towing has three tow trucks, and our clients include anyone whose car breaks down in the five boroughs, in New Jersey or even in Connecticut. We tow cars back here to Willets Point or to another garage nearby to fix. At first, we were renting a lot, and then about six or seven years ago, we bought a 4,000-square-foot lot. I came to America when I was 18 years old from Cali, Colombia. I live in Flushing with my family, and part of my family still lives in Colombia. When I first heard about the city's project to develop Willets Point, I was not very interested in what was happening. The big landowners in Willets Point came around and said that the city was trying to steal the land. They told the small businesses to not talk to the city, and they are still pressuring owners and workers. They are using the small guys to push against the project. You get tired of this place. It's a disgrace. It's too dirty. It's filled with garbage and dust, and there are potholes everywhere. You can't keep anything in our shop clean. The area is filled with rats. If you put a piece of bread in the middle of Willets Point, a thousand rats would run out and attack it. There isn't a place like this anywhere else in New York City. The only people who come down here are people who don't want to pay too much to fix their cars. We worked with the city, and they explained the project to develop Willets Point - and then we agreed to sell our property. When we made a deal, the big businesses asked us why. But the big guys have a bigger interest in the property, and they make more money here. The city paid us more than we paid for it. For me, that was a good deal. I think everyone in Willets Point is different, and you have to find what is right for you. Some people around here think their land is worth a gold mine. They think they'll get a lot of money for their land. But no one will buy it. And why would anyone want to? This place is worse than an eyesore. It's not healthy and it needs to be cleaned up. My company is going to move to a better location in Queens. It's going to be better for us. We will have access to the same highways. We need space to park and store cars, and the new site gives us more room to expand. We are going to spend some money and buy another truck and maybe pay more drivers. It's going to be clean, and we will have sewers and bathrooms. The city has to do something with this property. It's disgusting, and you can't work here because it makes you sick. I think what Mayor Bloomberg wants to do at Willets Point is good for Corona, is good for Flushing, is good for Queens and is good for the city. I hope others, including members of the City Council, can understand that. Canal is the owner and operator of Flushing Towing, a family-owned business that has operated out of Willets Point for two decades. metirish Nov 14 2008 10:17 AM I read that and I thought it was funny , I was thinking that when the guy signed the contract that putting his name to that article above was part of the deal. Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 10:21 AM I think he got a nice incentive for his 12 paragraphs. Centerfield Nov 14 2008 10:36 AM Not mentioned by Carlos Canal from Cali, Colombia is why the city would allow Willets Point to exist in this filthy state, without sewers, and only now seeks to clean it up since a developer of their choice has plans to develop it. I can see both arguments for eminent domain, but since I don't own any land there and would like a better environment when I go to games, I'm all for this one. Go Bloomy. Build me some places to take the kids. Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 11:00 AM Since I don't own any land there and would like a better environment when I go to games, I'm all for the city bringing the full range of utilities to the area that the property owners should be entitled to. Valadius Nov 14 2008 12:35 PM If nothing else, this will FINALLY allow for a sewer system. metirish Nov 14 2008 12:36 PM ="Valadius":2jrwc3or]If nothing else, this will FINALLY allow for a sewer system.[/quote:2jrwc3or] For shitty field? John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 14 2008 12:46 PM It's not like you can go build on unimproved land then demand sewer pipes as if its your right. You notice these bizzes aren;t clamoring for that since they know that would mean the end of them anyway. Edgy DC Nov 14 2008 12:51 PM I thought you could.

I don't approve of this. Eminent domain is pretty evil.

Matthew Broderick, Met Lovin' Big Shot.

Sorry, this is Phillies related, but this is hella-cute.

cooby wrote: Yay, the short banged bimbo is losing! IIRC, she was banged for a long time, on the stairs, in a chair...oh wait, you were talking about her hair.

...makes 3 lefts.

Maryland has the best state flag, imho.

Oriole bird-head logo says: "Kiss My Goddamn Ornithologically Incorrect Ass!"

Ghostbusters is about as intellectual as a comedy can get. It's all based on science and stuff.

If you want a pick to win this round, Who you gonna call? Ghostbusters!

"Field of Dreams" knocks "Coming to America" out of the game in the first inning with Joe Jackson on the bench.

On the other hand, more souvenirs for the fans!

If this lead doesn't change hands, Vic is going to blow a gasket.

It's an optical delusion. Which line is longest:

Wasn't this the name of the debut album of the hip-hop group Arrested Development?

Rey Ord��ez.

All the cars are the same size though.

themetfairy wrote: I love both of these films. Had to go with Christmas Story, but I won't be upset if Princess Bride wins. Ditto, although I voted opposite.

That will make it easier to chain to a log.

I kind of like it.