One of the names I was trying to remember re: Baty was that of Hank Sauer, who was not regarded by the Reds as a MLB hitter though they kept on giving him brief chances to show his stuff. Sauer became a regular at age 31, was swapped out to the Cubs, and hit a ton of HRs in his 30s, winning an MVP Award at age 35. Sometimes you've got to give a guy opportunities to hit when he's demonstrated an ability to hit in the minor leagues: Sauer had a .975 OPS at AAA (Syracuse, as it happens) at ages 28 and 29 before he cracked the MLB lineup. A name I know well - his number 9 is retired in Syracuse and there used to be a high end restaurant/lounge in the RF corner named after him (it's now the "Metropolitan Club" I believe). Who is that?