Edgy MD

Dances with Wolves (and Unforgiven) certainly paved the way for a revival of westerns. It's just that most stunk. I think if you checked, though, you'll find that western production went way up in the nineties.

Cameron, Mike 7Floyd, Cliff 9Glavine, Tom 3 Looper, Braden 6 Matsui, Kaz 5Mientkiewicz, Doug 0Milledge, Lastings 8Piazza, Mike 3Seo, Jae Weong 4Trachsel, Steve 5

Well, I still didn't forget him, I just mislaid him.Stupid source.

I forget my source (I think from the Mets' own site) but I got Bud Harrelson there in 1982. I'm pretty sure Rusty's induction day was his own. Those awful wigs stick out in my mind.

Where's the love for Todd Hundley? Currently on the borderline case list.And in Ms. Mets' heart.This guy was our star, our All-Star, for a number of years, held the home run record and even set the single-season record for catchers while wearing the Mets uniform. He belongs!Well, his two All-Star seasons were the only ones he qualified as a star. He holds the team homer record, but so did a lot of guys, though he set a nice record --- homers as a catcher, since broken ---- as a Met.All of which makes him a little bit more qualified than John Stearns, but then Stearnsie's coaching career adds to his legacy.The stadium won't burn if the Mets Hall of Fame were to include Todd Hundley, but, really, aren't there a dozen guys higher up on just about anybody's list? Let's be deliberate here (says the guy looking twenty years into the future).

Rube was one of Roy Campanella's backups with the 1950s Dodgers (and, in fact, his baseball card features prominently in the plot of the film Mask). When Gil Hodges took over as Met manager, he made Rube his pitching coach on his staff of almost all catchers. (Could you imagine how radio callers today would react if a manager named a former catcher as his pitching coach?)Rube lasted from 1968 to 1981 and mentored all the pitchers that came to the Mets during that period. He survived the tenures of Hodges, Berra, McMillan, and Frazier before getting fired along with Joe Torre.Torre despite inheriting the old coot, thought enough of him to re-hire him (and much of his Met staff) when he took over as Atlanta manager.When Jerry Koosman was inducted into the Mets Hall of Fame, Rube Walker was the non-family member he specifically requested be there.

So, Walker it should be then?Maybe Bill Webb should be on the list also...

It doesn't have to be any pace at all.It's been 21 in 25 years, but it was 14 in the first ten years and only seven in the last 15. I think one per year is a nice pace and it keeps the meaning from getting watered down, and it also allows the day to become an expected and celebrated --- rather than ovelooked --- day in the annual schedule, perhaps keeping peeps dramatically anticipating this year's honoree, maybe waiting until a month before the game to announce the name.Of course, early on, they inducted peeps with a shared legacy together, and they still could do that --- Johnson and Cashen, Rose and Cohen when their time comes, Piggy and Walker --- but I still like the power of one guy (or gal, Ms. Payson) getting the year to himself.1981 Joan Whitney Payson (executive) Casey Stengel (manager) 1982 Bud Harrelson Gil Hodges (manager) George Weiss (executive) 1983 Johnny Murphy (executive) William A. Shea (executive) 1984 Ralph Kiner (broadcaster) Bob Murphy (broadcaster) Lindsey Nelson (broadcaster) 1986 Rusty Staub 1988 Tom Seaver 1989 Jerry Koosman 1990 Ed Kranepool 1991 Cleon Jones 1992 Jerry Grote 1993 Tug McGraw 1996 Mookie Wilson 1997 Keith Hernandez 2001 Gary Carter 2002 Tommie Agee

I think M. Donald gets in the year after Walter O'Malley makes the Brooklyn Dodger Hall of Fame.

Now that I'm caught, I must acknowledge the obvious --- that this topic is a spinoff of Greg's essay and our subsequent exchange.I've been arguing in a parallel world for Walker for at least as long. The suggestion of the deans of the Mets press corps as well as Karl Ehrhardt is all him though. While neither are high priorities in my book, I applaud his notion of expansive inclusion.Piggy's got his argument, but it's obvious why his case is less than Walker's --- for the same reason a bullpen coach is a lesser role than a pitching coach. But, yeah, He certainly belongs ahead of some on that waiting list. Please note that my list makes some deference for age. After ranking them purely on merit, if I saw that a guy was five years older than the man ahead of him on the list, he jumped, ten years older than the next guy, he jumped again.In the spirit of rehab and reconciliation, I can't see why, if the case can be made for Nelson Doubleday, Wilpon would block it. Unless he believes that Doubleday really is/was virulently anti-Jewish, holding a grudge over a meatless honor for a dotty old man could only reflect poorly on him and the organization.

Healy's in the conversation also. He's already in the confidence Hall of Fame.Really, all that matters is the next person in. This got weird too fast.

Weird stuff here. Keep in mind that this is mostly third-person speculative, with the fore-noted exception of Walker. Almost none of this is actually going to happen. Obviously, the list suggests Bonilla and Benitez are destined to remain forever outside the honor.Reviving Benitez's legacy may be a lost cause. But taking hateful cheap shots at him now is egregious. After his performance against the Mets last year, the people who deserve the criticism are the ones who ran him out of town. That should be Mt. Rushmore obvious.Darryl and Doc's history is what it is. Safe speculation says that the Mets would like to carefully --- as slowly and discretely as necessary --- rehabilitate both players' relationship with the team, it's fans, and decent society. Whether or not they succeed, rehabilitation is almost always the right thing to do.Even rehabbing men from Yankee associations (and yuck to that McCarvermetaphor). It's altogether possible that this time next year Bobby Valentine or Davey Johnson is managing the Yankees.I don't know that Mets employeeship should necessarily be a standard.

Purely for speculation, fun, and, at least in the first case, wishful thinking.2006) Rube Walker 2007) Dwight Gooden 2008) Darryl Strawberry2009) Davey Johnson2010) Frank Cashen2011) John Franco2012) Howard Johnson2013) Tim McCarver2014) Jack Lang2015) Nelson Doubleday2016) Mike Piazza2017) Sid Fernandez2018) Al Leiter2019) Bobby Valentine2020) Ron Darling2021) Gary Cohen2022) Kevin McReynolds (highly controversial)2023) Marty Noble2024) Yogi Berra2025) David ConeBelow are others in the conversation, but vulnerable to getting eclipsed by subsequent figures (Wright, Reyes, etc.). Asterisks indicate stature likely to grow over time.Jon MatlackFred Wilpon*Karl EhrhardtJesse OroscoLee MazzilliJoe GergenEdgardo Alfonzo*Howie RoseJohn MilnerArmando BenitezBobby J. JonesRick ReedDave KingmanTodd HundleyJohn StearnsRon SwobodaJohn OlerudWayne GarrettBobby OjedaBobby BonillaHubie BrooksMel StottlemyerCraig SwanLenny Dykstra*Stevie HendersonJeff KentGeorge FosterRoger McDowell*Felix Millan

The post-mortem with Biff Thunderpants was the best part.

Frank Thomas, foot fracture, out for the season.

Of course, I'm missing the fact that not all innings equal three outs by the pitcher, because many runners will have been eliminated on the basepaths after reaching safely. Duh.

Pedro's a jerkweed if he retired today, ruining my season and more. But he'd be a jerkweed in the Hall-of-Fame.What could you be inferring? I'm just trying to clear up the record and see that a Met gets his due.Let's go to the record books. Sid Fernandez pitched 1,866.7 innings. Multiply that times three and you see that he got exactly 5,600 outs.He gave up 1,421 hits. So his batting average against, unless I'm missing something obvious should be 1,421 / ( 5,600 + 4,421 ) or 1,421 / 7,021or 0.20239282153539381854436689930209.203.Am I missing something, or is Sid not the all-time leader in this?

I think Sid Fernandez has a batting average against of .204 or something.

Gossage vs. RiveraGossageRiveraAgeIPERA+IPERA+2080.0730.0---2149.7540.0---2289.3900.0---23141.72460.0---24224.01800.0---25133.015667.08326134.3173107.72422758.346570.72352899.018061.32342946.717369.02453093.012375.71783187.319380.719132102.38246.01603379.012770 72653464.78478.7231Gossage was such a horse for so long. I'm totally down with enshrining his Yankee self.

Cooby likes nerdy voices. Mental note.Batting average may be over-rated, but I still wouldn't want to go to a Hall of Fame without Tony Gwynn.Nor will I. Five gold gloves, seven silver sluggers, and 15 all-star games. He'll walk through the front gates on ballot one.

Swan Swan H, please report.

I feel the same way. Don't tell him his shoulder looks like spaghetti, just give him the ball and let him throw eight.So, along with the Met wining streak:The Nats are swooning, tinkering, and their top pitcher and workhourse seems to be done.The Braves have Chipper and Hampton back, but the kiddie corps that replaced much of their ailing and failing lineup is, at least partially, falling back to earthFlorida has fallen into last place, supposedly have Burnett on the block, possibly have their manager on the block, reportedly are considering re-hiring Jeff Torborg, and may get some eggz on their faces if Al Leiter continues to perform with the Yankees.That still leaves the Phils, but I imagine it's a good a time as any to make a move.

Anybody want to specualate regarding the two sources reporting apparently the same quote oppositely:"I'm not happy for three years. After the season, I'm going to tell you" why, said Hernandez, 12-4 with a 3.44 ERA and the unquestioned staff ace--- espn.com Regarding his anger, Hernandez said, "I've been happy [with this franchise] for three years. This is the best organization. After the season, I'm going to tell you something. Don't worry, I'm going to tell you."--- mlb.com

Angry with America.

[code:69txq2hm]Man, I can't stand that weird bohemian Adam Ant lookalike prancing around in the woods. [/code:69txq2hm]Kevin Rowland (of Dexy's Midnight runners) loked more like Bob Geldof. And the video had a rundown urban setting. Dunno what Meat's thinking of here.They were vanguard of Celtic soul (well, I gues Van will always be the Vanguard), and therefore one of the wayshowers for U2.Their original look, before the ovryalls, was supposedly modeled after Mean Streets:Anyhow, I thnk Rowland became a woman."These people round here wear beaten down eyes Sunk in smoke dryed facesThey're so resigned to what their fate isBut not us, not usWe are far too young and clever.Remember toora-loora toora-loo-rye-ayEileen I'll hum this tune forever"