I don't know why you want to create a pointless conflict. Ceetar wrote: Well, it doesn't. Which is fine. It's also not what I'm speaking to. Ceetar wrote: but that wasn't my question. Your question was "What's the other issue?" And I answered that. You're inferring these guys are going to pitch in September for the Mets. If "these guys" is "Wheeler, Mejia, Syndegaard, Montero, deGrom... Matz, Familia," I'm inferring the exact opposite. I guess my problem is your assumptions. They're not mine. I described them as broadly held. Please don't ask me to produce documentation. I think any hope the Mets have on the playoffs hinges a lot on Ike Davis/first base and Travis d'Arnaud and the offense more than the pitching. and it's pitching health that's the concern. And I think it hinges on a cholera outbreak during a weekend series when the Braves are in Washington. But please try and stay with the point of the thread. With the possible exception of Thor (and probably not him), I don't think any of those guys are even remotely expected to be part of the 2014 playoff push. I don't think there's broadly expected to BE a pennant push, but whatever the team's position in the standings, the progression of many of these pitchers to major league contributors has been broadly presented as part of the goal for the season. In fact, I think they may be detrimental to it. Getting Zack Wheeler out of the rotation --- key to the pennant push. Got it. Especially if you hold them back in extended spring training. You're suggesting pick two pitchers to pitch 90-60 minors-majors instead of 120-30, but those 30 innings of AAA are important for development, and unless it's your top guy who you think is mostly ready and say only needs 50 AAA innings, you're just going to end up promoting someone who's even less ready for the adjustment period of stepping up a level. Somebody else is going to have to parse this. But I'm not advocating here for limiting pitchers' workload by a single inning. Nor am I suggesting that they pitch a greater or lesser percentage of their innings in the minors than they already would have. What I am suggesting is that IF it is the team's plan (and it is broadly reported to be such) to limit young pitchers' workloads (and I am NOT speaking to the advisability of this) than perhaps it might be helpful to not end everybody's seasons six weeks early, but start some of them six weeks late. It's really a simple thought. One of the simplest I've had all day.