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Jim Kaat gets pissed... ] "It's embarrassing to come to Yankee Stadium and have to try to talk to people with what we've got going on in the background," he said, referring to loud contemporary music blasting during b.p. "This is not a baseball atmosphere, but for some reason, that's what they do at this stadium more than any other, and it's an embarrassment to the game, really. With that out of the way, let's talk pitching."

Steve that''s a fine looking KTE you got yerself there, great job, the KTE threads have gone great this year, I think the start of season table Edgy made up has helped, plus the new posters.

Don't the Mets give out a 'Brian Cole" award each year, not sure what it's for, I think maybe the organizations top prospect.

I would think Lastings should know how to act as a pro, I mean is showing up " late" tolerated in the minors?, as an organization shouldn't the Mets have this kinda stuff taken care of on the farm.

Certainly one of Willies strengths is how he deals with his players.

Speaking of attitude...and I agree with Monk... ] Milledge's clock is alarming PHILADELPHIA - Lastings Milledge arrived in the clubhouse at 11:55 a.m., only 70 minutes before yesterday's first pitch, prompting a second straight day of tutorials on how to conduct oneself in the majors. A day after Willie Randolph thought Milledge "spectated" rather than raced from first to home Wednesday, coach Sandy Alomar Sr. and veterans pulled Milledge aside and told him it is unwise to arrive so close to game time. Milledge did not play yesterday, but Randolph said the rookie would start today and that the move was made to get recently acquired Eli Marrero a start. The manager downplayed Milledge's arrival time and suggested he wasn't actually late, noting the team didn't take batting practice. Still, even ultra-politically correct David Wright labeled it "unacceptable," saying a general rule of thumb for a young player is to make sure he has arrived at the stadium before players riding the team bus, which departed the hotel at 10:45a.m. for the short ride to the ballpark. "I didn't jump on him," Alomar Sr. said. "I just gave him advice." Part of that advice is to watch how he conducts himself, since labels can be difficult to shake. During his 17-day major-league stint, Milledge also has been instructed to tuck in a four-inch cross that was around his neck during his debut, and advised not to high-five fans after homering. "Lastings is a great kid," Alomar said. "He's a kid who's been caught up in the hype of the game. Really he does listen when you talk to him." Milledge said that in the minors he typically showed up closer to the first pitch for matinees. He also said he was so talented compared to his competition before arriving in the majors that actions like this went unrecognized. "I never had to deal with any teaching because I played the game pretty much well enough for people to have left me alone," Milledge said. GM Omar Minaya tried to suggest that Jose Reyes, Wright and other highly touted young players all go through the same thing; in actuality, however, Wright's biggest problem frequently was getting to ballparks too early. "If he wasn't good, we wouldn't be talking about this," Minaya said of Milledge.

Something like 72% of his career home runs are against the mets.

More fun, although there could be other reasons why things are more fun around here...

] GREEN DAY LYRICS "Wake Me Up When September Ends" Summer has come and passed The innocent can never last wake me up when september ends like my fathers come to pass seven years has gone so fast wake me up when september ends here comes the rain again falling from the stars drenched in my pain again becoming who we are as my memory rests but never forgets what I lost wake me up when september ends summer has come and passed the innocent can never last wake me up when september ends ring out the bells again like we did when spring began wake me up when september ends here comes the rain again falling from the stars drenched in my pain again becoming who we are as my memory rests but never forgets what I lost wake me up when september ends Summer has come and passed The innocent can never last wake me up when september ends like my father's come to pass twenty years has gone so fast wake me up when september ends wake me up when september ends wake me up when september ends

]Manuel should keep walking, cuz he's probably going to be fired by the end of this series. Yeah if not at the end of this series then soon, he's the manager in some part because of Jim thome and the current GM didn't hire him so he's fukced.

So FK in your opionin was Johnson giving payback for Posada or was he throwing at Perez because he hits him good?

We are back , Oliver pitching for the Mets...

Dickshot what happened, I turned over after reading your post but all I heard was Paul O' Neill jawing about how Johnson was a stand up guy.

Remember that the oxygen in those places is recycled, have fun Soupcan, and yeah Beltran for MVP is worth a few quid.

Looking at his numbers the decline of Fonzie is kinda sad, makes me wonder if he was on steroids. http://www.baseball-reference.com/a/alfoned01.shtml

I'm more concerned about no antena on the TV's.

Floyd is one of those Mets players that the fans just love, even when he was hitting like crap I don't think he ever got booed, maybe we remember what he did last year and hope he can still do it.

Speculation in the Daily News today was Bell getting sent down because with the Mets playing in the AL for 9 games they'll have use of the DH thus being able to carry Nady,Lastings and Floyd.

Well shoot me, the article is full of holes and apparently not all that interesting....

Keep him.

Interesting article from Klapisch(I know that's hard to believe), I could have put this in the all purpose thread but thought it might warrant a new one... ] By BOB KLAPISCH SPORTS COLUMNIST PHILADELPHIA -- Ask an '86 Met what it's like to watch his 2006 descendants, and it's like examining a genealogy tree. That's us, is what the retro Mets must be thinking, as this year's squad has taken a 7� game lead in the East, ready to use the summer as calisthenics for the playoffs. Of course, you'll never get Willie Randolph to admit his Mets have become rulers of the National League, if not the baseball universe. He's too smart to start coasting now, especially after watching Tom Glavine give up four home runs to the Phillies on Tuesday night in Citizens Bank Park. Granted, the Phillies' home field is an incubator for missile launches, but seeing Glavine get knocked out in the fifth inning -- breaking his streak of making it to the sixth inning in 27 consecutive games -- strengthens Randolph's belief that nothing is guaranteed over the course of a long season. The manager uses the Yankees' near collapse in 2000 -- they almost blew the nine-game lead they held on Sept. 13 -- as proof that pennant races are never won in June. Still, the Mets don't seem to have any competition in the division, proving in a 9-7 win how much quicker and more athletic they are than the second-place Phillies. David Wright's full-stretch dive of Pat Burrell's one-hop smash in the ninth inning, not only saved Billy Wagner from an embarrassing meltdown in front of his former fans (who are now his sworn enemies), but may have ended the race altogether. The Phillies would be wise to start thinking of a wild-card spot. The Braves are 11 out and legally dead. The rest of the division is irrelevant. The West is soft, almost invisible, and the Cardinals, once regarded as the NL's premier product, look sluggish with Albert Pujols on the disabled list indefinitely. Is it possible that the only measuring stick for the Mets ... is the Mets? What would happen, then, in a seven-game war of the Met worlds, 1986 versus 2006? The answer is obvious enough, at least if you ask Ron Darling and Keith Hernandez. They won't actually say the '86 team would prevail, but a suppressed, knowing smile spoke volumes. "Well, I'd like our five [starters] against anybody," Hernandez said. A moment later, Darling drifted over to the conversation and was even more candid. "Who [among the 2006 Mets] would've hit Dwight?" he asked. "No one did for two years, so why would these guys be any different?" Naturally, the two former stars were quick to temper their remarks. They are, after all employees of the team, and it's part of their job as broadcasters to mingle with the very players they're critiquing. So it's no surprise to hear Darling and Hernandez praise the 2006 team, even if they privately believe the Mets are slaughtering a watered-down National League. Still, that doesn't change the fact that the Mets are loose and happy and happen to like each other. In that sense they're strikingly similar to the '86 team. "Actually, they're probably more mature than we were," Darling said with a laugh. "I think this team reflects the personality of the manager, and Willie is a humble guy, very business-like. "Davey [Johnson] was crazed, exactly the opposite. I guess you could say that was us, crazed." Hernandez likes the depth of the current Mets' bench, which makes him remember Danny Heep and Ed Hearn, as well as the Wally Backman-Tim Teufel platoon, and Mookie Wilson and Lenny Dykstra in center, too. The key difference, then? It's like Darling says, pitching. Who would you pick to win a game with Armageddon looming -- Gooden or Pedro Martinez? Asked for a point-blank answer, Hernandez said, "Well, are you asking me if we could hit Pedro today or Pedro in his prime?" Pedro in his prime, was the answer. "Well, no, but no one could hit him," Hernandez said. "But if we faced Pedro today, I think it would've been interesting." Same question went to the No. 2 starter: Darling versus Tom Glavine. "Depends if you're talking about a 26-year-old Glavine or Glavine as a 40 year old," Darling said. His point? None of today's Met pitchers are in their prime, whereas most of them were just peaking in 1986. Either way, it makes for a delicious debate, and it might be the only fun the Mets have between now and October. The coming months already reek of anticlimax, which is why Randolph is doing his best to keep the Mets focused. There are issues that will require his attention. Deciding what to do with Lastings Milledge is one. Sealing off the back end of the rotation is another. It may be that Alay Soler has won the No. 4 spot outright, but no one's sure how long Orlando Hernandez stays healthy. And then there's the matter of October poise, which the Mets may or may not have. Not even Randolph can guarantee his core players will remain composed in the playoffs, not until the Mets finally get there. The history books are rife with regular-season empires crumbling in the October promise land. The Mets themselves bear the ugly wounds of collapse. As much as Darling and Hernandez love to talk about 1986, the conversation turns dark at the mere mention of 1988. Remembering that seven-game loss to the Dodgers in the League Championship Series, Darling mumbled something primal. It sounded like "ugh." That was another way of saying: Don't even go there. E-mail: klapisch@northjersey.com

Good game to watch.

Rollins again with a homer....WTF?

Willets did you know Gary Cohen is out after having an appendectomy, Howie is filling in on the TV.

Cool, I thought I was weird for not having seem them...