metirish

I hate when they "apologize" , and his read like he was having a good laugh. If nothing else he has assured himself of getting his Nats coverage plenty of publicity. Maybe he can write about the food at the park if writing about food is his thing.

Some great looking shots here , I'm excited about this place. >

True , I shouldn't have used that term.

That's Joba in a few years.....I'm guessing he'll be playing rap music?

I think this quote from Davey Johnson in a way ties in nicely with the observation above from the scout. ] "I'm kinda feeling like Earl Weaver, I don't push the running game," Johnson said. "I don't think that was a big factor when I was playing in Japan. I don't think it is today. I think the stolen base and the bunt base hit, those are becoming less and less a factor in the game." Is "small ball" as Davey suggests becoming less a factor in the MLB game ?

Missed the Lennon chat today but I'm reading over it now , Heyman is reporting that the Mets " are believed to have made an offer" to Pedro...Lennon says a team guy he talked to says no firm offer was made. http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/blog/2009/03/live_chat_with_david_lennon_14.html

One day when the WBC is a big deal and MLB Network is the exclusive carrier the owners will love it.

Pictures please.

Just got a voice mail form a Mets ticket office person , basically telling me that we have great tickets left for MFY , Philly and Braves games for as little as $19 , this is my number , call me.

] "He probably had a gut feeling," Victorino on being pinch hit for........ouch

A great pitcher on his day but an insufferable prick.

="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3uj5xus1]Uh, that's not them.[/quote:3uj5xus1] Banished to the minor league fields to work on my stuff. G-Fafif Mar 23 2009 12:42 PM Danielle was the fourth member of my legendary (to me) partial season ticket quartet in 2001: me, Jason of FAFIF, Emily (Mrs. Jason) and Danielle. She and Jace worked together at the WSJ. In 2002, we split our seat, so to speak: I took Fridays, she took Tuesdays. Very big Mets fan, very fine reporter, very nice person. Happy she has landed in this role. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 23 2009 12:45 PM Were you at the big wedding? metirish Mar 23 2009 12:47 PM Pictures please. G-Fafif Mar 23 2009 12:47 PM I was not. Jason and Emily were and they met...Danny Sessa, he of the Citi Field tours with Kevin Burkhardt. They're related through somebody's second marriage, half-siblings, something, I forget. Nice guy, I'm told. Edgy DC Mar 23 2009 12:55 PM All I can ask. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 23 2009 12:56 PM Well this is all very encouraging. Have her get to work on undermining that guy they brought in from the USTA and who is causing all those problems. I'm pretty sure he's the one in charge of uniform sleeve patches and Yankee-fan come-ons and stuff. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 23 2009 01:20 PM I hope she's pretty good at her job-- the team needs a better communicator, stat. To paraphrase Caryn's review, I don't know how they weren't able to sell something as beautiful as CitiField to people who love the Mets and baseball. G-Fafif Mar 23 2009 01:21 PM Who's the USTA guy? John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 23 2009 01:27 PM I couldn't think of his name and now I have to try and find it... Hello, Newman. Her boss, according to the press release. Anyway, he's the guy I blame for the Mets' institutional deafness and relentless push to become artificial. ]Mets hire marketing executive David Newman 10/02/2005 5:35 PM ET New York Mets Media Relations Dept. FLUSHING, N.Y. -- The New York Mets today named David Newman to the newly-created position of Senior Vice President, Marketing and Communications. The announcement was made by Jeff Wilpon, the Mets' COO. Newman will join the Mets next month from the United States Tennis Association, where he was Managing Director, Marketing & Communications. He will report to Dave Howard, Executive Vice President, Business Operations. "We are excited to have David join us in this newly created position," said Howard. "David has extensive experience in marketing and business communications for first-rate sports and media entertainment organizations. His background will help our organization maximize the exciting opportunities presented by an up-and-coming team with a new regional sports network partner and a new stadium on the immediate horizon." Newman will be responsible for the strategic development and management of the Mets' branding, image-building, marketing and business communications initiatives to drive and support ticket sales, sponsorship activation, and fan value -- including advertising, promotion, advanced media, publishing, research, broadcasting, events, and in-game entertainment. "The Mets as a young and competitive club, and as a brand, are on the rise -- with a new network partner and stadium on deck," said Newman. "Joining the team at this juncture is truly a once-in-lifetime opportunity to play a role in diversifying and growing the connection of the Mets to current fans, new fans and partners." Newman was a key member of the US Open senior management team, leading the promotion and publicity effort that attracted 2.5 million fans to the National Tennis Center in the past four years, and earlier this month set a new attendance record as the highest annually attended event in sports. Newman brings to the Mets more than 20 years of sports and entertainment marketing experience. Before moving to the USTA, he spent nearly nine seasons with NFL Properties, rising to the position of Vice President, Marketing & Events, where he oversaw the League's integrated strategic marketing initiatives involving sponsors, licensees, and retailers. Prior to joining the NFL in 1992, Newman held several marketing positions in seven years at MTV. Newman also has held production, public relations and promotions positions with Madison Square Garden Network and Ogilvy & Mather. The Mets also announced today the promotions of two other senior executives. David Cohen has been promoted to Executive Vice President & General Counsel. "David plays a vital role in legal, human resources and corporate governance issues at the Mets and related companies and on the new stadium project," said Wilpon. "He is a key member of senior management." Cohen had been Senior Vice President & General Counsel and has been with the Mets organization since 1995. Paul Danforth has been promoted to Senior Vice President, Corporate Sales & Services. "Paul has proven himself to be an extraordinary corporate sales executive and an invaluable member of our team," said Howard, to whom Danforth has reported since 2001. Danforth had been Vice President, Corporate Sales & Services, and has also been with the organization since 1994. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs. G-Fafif Mar 23 2009 01:39 PM ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":3bfb3owy]I hope she's pretty good at her job-- the team needs a better communicator, stat. To paraphrase Caryn's review, I don't know how they weren't able to sell something as beautiful as CitiField to people who love the Mets and baseball.[/quote:3bfb3owy] MG nailed that point but good. They have indeed been plagued by disconnect through the years. Long ago, Frank Cashen (from whom every GM since has been corporately descended) described with a sense of dismay that there were Mets fans and there were Mets customers. I don't think the organization, as a rule, has ever quite understood that while not every Mets fan is a Mets customer (that is, a ticket buyer), that the great majority of Mets customers who came to Shea without nameplates on a season box, were your most loyal fans. Thus, there has never been, I feel, a concerted effort to understand their fan base. They may cater to their higher-end customer base great, but it's not necessarily the same thing. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 23 2009 01:58 PM ="G-Fafif":1ksch21l]="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":1ksch21l]I hope she's pretty good at her job-- the team needs a better communicator, stat. To paraphrase Caryn's review, I don't know how they weren't able to sell something as beautiful as CitiField to people who love the Mets and baseball.[/quote:1ksch21l] MG nailed that point but good. They have indeed been plagued by disconnect through the years. Long ago, Frank Cashen (from whom every GM since has been corporately descended) described with a sense of dismay that there were Mets fans and there were Mets customers. I don't think the organization, as a rule, has ever quite understood that while not every Mets fan is a Mets customer (that is, a ticket buyer), that the great majority of Mets customers who came to Shea without nameplates on a season box, were your most loyal fans. Thus, there has never been, I feel, a concerted effort to understand their fan base. They may cater to their higher-end customer base great, but it's not necessarily the same thing.[/quote:1ksch21l] (Nods head in sad agreement.) Speaking more to the diehards, young families and actual Met lovers-- the base of the customer base-- might have increased said base, to the point where it would have meant a lot less empty seats (and a lot more good will) during the doldrums of Grant's Tomb, Worst Team Ever, and Festival de Alomar... or the next, less economically-healthy downtime. More than sad or angry, though... I'm mostly just confused. I took Intro to Marketing at Wharton during my undergrad years (was a liberal arts guy); understanding your customer base-- or at least attempting to-- is LITERALLY at the front of the book. John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 17 2009 09:35 PM I happened to have met her tonight, and a fine addition she is to the Met family. Edgy DC Aug 17 2009 09:43 PM Did you... empty your soul? John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 17 2009 09:45 PM Pretty much G-Fafif Aug 17 2009 10:05 PM She has our interests at heart.

I think this is their wedding http://family.webshots.com/album/240537315JUHuDG

Bondy is pissed too. Morgan talked about it last night, in fact I was taken aback a bit by his biting criticism of the USA pitching staff and who was not there.

Kiernan's article is even worse than Filip Bondy's today , al though both are of a similar vein. Like David Wright and Derek Jeter, we should think World of WBC ] LOS ANGELES - It wasn't supposed to matter. The World Baseball Classic was just this silly tournament getting in the way of spring training, disrespecting all those precious hamstring stretches that traditionally define America's staid, verdant baseball spring. But David Wright put on the uniform again Sunday, ignored the throbbing toe and tried to avoid running into Davey Johnson. With Evan Longoria now on the U.S. roster, the manager had another option at third base for this semifinal game if Wright wanted out of the lineup with his cracked big toenail. "If the foot starts swelling up, let me know," Johnson told Wright when he caught up to him. "Skip, I'm fine," Wright answered. Nothing against Longoria, but Wright wanted to play in the worst way. He had his reasons, starting with the love of a fresh challenge. And there was that other thing - the feeling some athletes get when they finally have the chance to play for country, not just for money. "I'm ready to go," Wright said before the U.S. fell to Japan, 9-4, before 43,630 at Dodger Stadium. "It's an honor to wear this uniform." Then he went out and it seemed early on as if every ball and every big at-bat were hunting for Wright. He doubled to right in the third, scoring Jimmy Rollins. He made a brilliant, bare-handed pickup and throw on a bunt by Munenori Kawasaki leading off the bottom of that same inning. He followed that with a two-base throwing error on a sharp grounder by Ichiro Suzuki, a mistake that somehow did no harm. Wright had his evening out there, filled with busy drama, while the Americans were eliminated in self-destructive fashion. The U.S. committed three errors, including Derek Jeter's bad throw in the eighth that led to three unearned runs. But really, the Americans simply never had the pitching to win the WBC. Not even close. A dose of CC Sabathia, A.J. Burnett or Joba Chamberlain might have helped greatly. Instead, starter Roy Oswalt was knocked around by a series of line drives in Japan's five-run fourth inning, when Johnson unaccountably kept the poor fellow out there about three batters too long. The Americans, playing these past weeks with one hand tied behind their backs, finished the 2009 WBC with a mediocre record of 4-4, falling short of the final for a second straight time. Japan moves on Monday night to face historical archrival Korea for the title. Both those Asian teams arrived in better shape, having practiced since December. They also played a small-ball, running style that Johnson oddly dismissed as ineffective Sunday before the game. "It's like facing Anaheim," Jeter said after the loss. "They don't strike out." Wright can certainly look himself in the mirror today - not in the A-Rod way - before he heads back to rejoin the Mets in Florida. He leaves after a game-winning, tournament-saving hit against Puerto Rico. And with a slight toe injury that he doesn't care to discuss as much as the great time he had playing catch with Jeter before the games. That was quite the sight again Sunday, New York's two favorite players tossing a baseball and glaring impatiently at the Japanese, who were not vacating the field quite quickly enough after batting practice. "We can't go on until they're done," grumped Jeter, another guy who can never get enough baseball. Wright couldn't wait, either. He recently made a friend in Miami, Felix Perez, a veteran who grew up in North Bergen, from the 82nd Airborne Division, injured in Iraq in 2004. Their conversations provided more inspiration to play on. "Once you've seen what a couple of guys have been through that, and how much the flag means to him, obviously that inspires us," Wright said. In the end, inspiration was not enough. His team losing by four runs in the fifth, Wright came to the plate against Daisuke Matsuzaka with two runners on base and one out, a chance to get back in the game. He looked at a third strike that appeared too outside and low on the replay. Wright wasn't happy. He left for the bench complaining to Paul Emmel, the American umpire. Some things never change, whether you're playing for Fred Wilpon or Uncle Sam. A tough call can ruin an inning. It can't wreck an entire international experience, however. Wright goes back to the majors today, takes back his position at third. From his hot corner of the world, he can see a little farther.

="John Cougar Lunchbucket":32pjwupp]="GYC":32pjwupp]Derek Jeter is a terrorist. He was trained by the best; one of his own teammates flew a plane into a building.[/quote:32pjwupp] Way to bring it.[/quote:32pjwupp] I didn't get that for a minute....good one Edgy DC Mar 23 2009 06:57 AM Derek Jeter, he taught us how to win. He teaches us how to lose. Someday, before this is all over, he will teach us how to tie. MFS62 Mar 23 2009 07:54 AM Folks, all of your barbs were more on the mark than Jeter's horrible throw in the ninth inning last night. What made the moment even better was the two headed monster of Miller/Morgan explanining how Jeter set his feet before he threw. Later Edgy DC Mar 23 2009 08:26 AM It strikes me that, as Jeter's game fades, the need to write him into morality plays will only increase: JETER SHOWS WRIGHT WAY Kevin Kiernan New York Post Last updated: 7:01 am March 21, 2009 Posted: 1:46 am March 21, 2009 LOS ANGELES This is a world stage, even if most American fans don't quite get the World Baseball Classic. On that stage yesterday at timeless Dodger Stadium sat Derek Jeter and David Wright, two New York guys. They sat side by side in uniform during the Team USA press conference, just as they have played side by side at short and third. In New York they are always center stage with their own teams, the Yankees and Mets, though never really together. Even at the All-Star Game last year at Yankee Stadium, they represented their leagues. (Me: That's notably odd how?) Here, though, for a few weeks, they are true teammates. Watching the byplay between the two yesterday, the smiles, the inside jokes, the fumbling with the headphones used for translating questions, you couldn't help but get the idea that Jeter was passing the torch to Wright. Not the baseball torch, that's a much different story. Jeter was up there doing the right thing. He was having fun, enjoying the moment, carrying himself in a respectful way and, here's the key, always putting winning first in every comment. Jeter is the mentor and Wright is the student, taking in all he can for the future. There is a way to handle yourself when you are center stage in New York. Obviously, Alex Rodriguez, despite being in the same clubhouse as Jeter, has never quite gotten it. Wright, who will start at third and said his injured left big toe is "100 percent," came much more emotionally equipped to handle all this. He is using this WBC experience to grow. This is Jeter's second time around the WBC block. Tomorrow could be the last game for Team USA, which plays Japan. Roy Oswalt, not Jake Peavy, is scheduled to be the starting pitcher. Adam Dunn will be back in right. Mark DeRosa will play first. Win and Team USA goes to the championship game on Monday. Lose and the players go back to spring training. "The first time around, I don't think anyone knew what to expect," Jeter said of the WBC. "Then once you had the opportunity to go out there and play and wear the uniform, represent your country, and be around the guys, you realized what an honor it was. And that's the reason I'm here this time. It's not to get out of spring training for two or three weeks. "It's to come out here and represent our country and win a championship here." Jeter's defensive range has been shaky in the tournament (Me: That's notably odd how?), but he insisted he will be ready for the season despite splitting time with Jimmy Rollins at short. "Even when this tournament is over with, we will have a week to 10 days when we get back home," he explained. For Wright, his game-winning hit against Puerto Rico added another element of success. "That would be a memory that, for me, lasts a lifetime," he said. Jeter said the semifinal against Japan is not revenge game for the Americans, even though Japan won the first WBC. "I never try to look at things as revenge. Even if we had won that first tournament, this time, you're still trying to win. It's different than the last tournament, and this group here is trying to win." As Jeter spoke, Wright nodded his head in agreement, listening carefully to every word.Unwritten is that, outside of Chipper Jones (who stunk and then bolted after straining an oblique), the two of them have been two of the more disappointing players in the US lineup. metsmarathon Mar 23 2009 08:50 AM ="MFS62":3qf4gua7]Folks, all of your barbs were more on the mark than Jeter's horrible throw in the ninth inning last night. What made the moment even better was the two headed monster of Miller/Morgan explanining how Jeter set his feet before he threw. Later[/quote:3qf4gua7] well, you see, it totally wasn't jeters fault that he threw the ball away. the japanese guy was just so fast that he forced jeter to air mail the throw. no reasonable competent shortstop could've made that play against such a mercurial opponent! it was darned near unfair that the scorer found himself obligated to award the error to the faultless wonder. metirish Mar 23 2009 09:04 AM Kiernan's article is even worse than Filip Bondy's today , al though both are of a similar vein. Like David Wright and Derek Jeter, we should think World of WBC ] LOS ANGELES - It wasn't supposed to matter. The World Baseball Classic was just this silly tournament getting in the way of spring training, disrespecting all those precious hamstring stretches that traditionally define America's staid, verdant baseball spring. But David Wright put on the uniform again Sunday, ignored the throbbing toe and tried to avoid running into Davey Johnson. With Evan Longoria now on the U.S. roster, the manager had another option at third base for this semifinal game if Wright wanted out of the lineup with his cracked big toenail. "If the foot starts swelling up, let me know," Johnson told Wright when he caught up to him. "Skip, I'm fine," Wright answered. Nothing against Longoria, but Wright wanted to play in the worst way. He had his reasons, starting with the love of a fresh challenge. And there was that other thing - the feeling some athletes get when they finally have the chance to play for country, not just for money. "I'm ready to go," Wright said before the U.S. fell to Japan, 9-4, before 43,630 at Dodger Stadium. "It's an honor to wear this uniform." Then he went out and it seemed early on as if every ball and every big at-bat were hunting for Wright. He doubled to right in the third, scoring Jimmy Rollins. He made a brilliant, bare-handed pickup and throw on a bunt by Munenori Kawasaki leading off the bottom of that same inning. He followed that with a two-base throwing error on a sharp grounder by Ichiro Suzuki, a mistake that somehow did no harm. Wright had his evening out there, filled with busy drama, while the Americans were eliminated in self-destructive fashion. The U.S. committed three errors, including Derek Jeter's bad throw in the eighth that led to three unearned runs. But really, the Americans simply never had the pitching to win the WBC. Not even close. A dose of CC Sabathia, A.J. Burnett or Joba Chamberlain might have helped greatly. Instead, starter Roy Oswalt was knocked around by a series of line drives in Japan's five-run fourth inning, when Johnson unaccountably kept the poor fellow out there about three batters too long. The Americans, playing these past weeks with one hand tied behind their backs, finished the 2009 WBC with a mediocre record of 4-4, falling short of the final for a second straight time. Japan moves on Monday night to face historical archrival Korea for the title. Both those Asian teams arrived in better shape, having practiced since December. They also played a small-ball, running style that Johnson oddly dismissed as ineffective Sunday before the game. "It's like facing Anaheim," Jeter said after the loss. "They don't strike out." Wright can certainly look himself in the mirror today - not in the A-Rod way - before he heads back to rejoin the Mets in Florida. He leaves after a game-winning, tournament-saving hit against Puerto Rico. And with a slight toe injury that he doesn't care to discuss as much as the great time he had playing catch with Jeter before the games. That was quite the sight again Sunday, New York's two favorite players tossing a baseball and glaring impatiently at the Japanese, who were not vacating the field quite quickly enough after batting practice. "We can't go on until they're done," grumped Jeter, another guy who can never get enough baseball. Wright couldn't wait, either. He recently made a friend in Miami, Felix Perez, a veteran who grew up in North Bergen, from the 82nd Airborne Division, injured in Iraq in 2004. Their conversations provided more inspiration to play on. "Once you've seen what a couple of guys have been through that, and how much the flag means to him, obviously that inspires us," Wright said. In the end, inspiration was not enough. His team losing by four runs in the fifth, Wright came to the plate against Daisuke Matsuzaka with two runners on base and one out, a chance to get back in the game. He looked at a third strike that appeared too outside and low on the replay. Wright wasn't happy. He left for the bench complaining to Paul Emmel, the American umpire. Some things never change, whether you're playing for Fred Wilpon or Uncle Sam. A tough call can ruin an inning. It can't wreck an entire international experience, however. Wright goes back to the majors today, takes back his position at third. From his hot corner of the world, he can see a little farther. Centerfield Mar 23 2009 09:24 AM I seem to be the only one I know that's a little pissed that we didn't have a deeper pitching staff. I mean, when Oswalt gets knocked around, we don't have anyone better than Josh Grabow? Where's CC Sabathia and AJ Burnett? Or Brad Lidge? Or Cole Hamels coming in to face a lefty. metsguyinmichigan Mar 23 2009 09:29 AM If the US was taking this seriously, it wouldn't have Jeter out there. They'd have an outfielder who could field, move Dunn to DH and send lame-assed Jeter back home. metirish Mar 23 2009 09:31 AM Bondy is pissed too. Morgan talked about it last night, in fact I was taken aback a bit by his biting criticism of the USA pitching staff and who was not there. Edgy DC Mar 23 2009 09:32 AM Johnson's taking a lot of heat for not going for matchups more aggessively. In the rout that Puerto Rico laid on the US, he pretty much admitted he hung Peavy out to dry because Peavy had to get his work in. And if he's getting pressure (or outright orders) to manage that way, or to play Jeter against his own sense, you've got ask, "Why are players and fans expected to get behind this 100% when the folks fielding the team aren't?" Fman99 Mar 23 2009 09:33 AM ="Centerfield":2pc49ojt]I seem to be the only one I know that's a little pissed that we didn't have a deeper pitching staff. I mean, when Oswalt gets knocked around, we don't have anyone better than Josh Grabow? Where's CC Sabathia and AJ Burnett? Or Brad Lidge? Or Cole Hamels coming in to face a lefty.[/quote:2pc49ojt] Tim Lincecum, don't forget. Brandon Webb, Dan Haren, etc. It's part of my beef with this thing... if you're going to send the best hitters we have at least have the pitchers to match. The other teams did, we did not. Not that Roy Oswalt is a slouch, mind you. But some of these arms in the pen for team USA make me wonder. Plus, throw Jeter in the fucking can. He's old and he can't hit or field much anymore. Let him be the first base coach. Centerfield Mar 23 2009 09:37 AM That's right. Lincecum. He's the one that got me started on my tirade last night. When we had to go to Grabow in the middle innings and then they played the Lincecum video game commercial. Edgy DC Mar 23 2009 09:43 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 23 2009 10:40 AM ="Fman99":1vmjnthj]="Centerfield":1vmjnthj]I seem to be the only one I know that's a little pissed that we didn't have a deeper pitching staff. I mean, when Oswalt gets knocked around, we don't have anyone better than Josh Grabow? Where's CC Sabathia and AJ Burnett? Or Brad Lidge? Or Cole Hamels coming in to face a lefty.[/quote:1vmjnthj] Tim Lincecum, don't forget. Brandon Webb, Dan Haren, etc. It's part of my beef with this thing... if you're going to send the best hitters we have at least have the pitchers to match. The other teams did, we did not.[/quote:1vmjnthj] I'm disagreeing there. Japan and Korea and Cuba may have, for all I know, but it's pretty easy to take the no-shows for Venezuela, Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic and assemble a better staff than the one they showed up with. G-Fafif Mar 23 2009 10:02 AM David Wright has played Major League Baseball in New York for 4-1/2 seasons. He's been to the playoffs. He's made three All-Star teams, twice as a starter. He's been on the cover of whichever video game it was, been on magazine covers, done commercials...why on earth would any professional baseball reporter think he needs Derek F. Jeter to mentor him at this stage of his career regarding baseball or how to handle attention? Even looking at it objectively, what kind of BS is that? Benjamin Grimm Mar 23 2009 11:17 AM I agree. It's just nuts. Edgy DC Mar 23 2009 11:21 AM He's the pitchman for Jae Rock Lee, and he don't need anybody to show him how that's done. Benjamin Grimm Mar 23 2009 12:03 PM ="Edgy DC":1kgsf6wz]He's the pitchman for Jae Rock Lee, and he don't need anybody to show him how that's done.[/quote:1kgsf6wz] A featured classic: http://archives.cranepoolforum.net/4000/f1_t4071.shtml Edgy DC Mar 23 2009 12:22 PM Wright passed the two-year mark without jumping on Oprah's couch. At least, you know, not on camera. Edgy DC Mar 26 2009 10:18 PM Allen Barra trying to cope with reality. Trying and failing. http://www.observer.com/2009/time-honesty-about-great-derek-jeter#comment_form dinosaur jesus Mar 26 2009 11:25 PM "Let�s go ahead and say it: no major league team has ever won a pennant with a 35-year-old shortstop." Feel free to say it, but that won't make it true. Major league teams that have won a pennant with a 35-year-old shortstop: Giants, 1905 (Bill Dahlen, 35) White Sox, 1906 (George Davis, 35) Pirates, 1909 (Honus Wagner, 35) Cardinals, 1928 (Rabbit Maranville, 36) Tigers, 1945 (Skeeter Webb, 35) Yankees, 1952 (Phil Rizzuto, 35) Yankees, 1953 (Phil Rizzuto, 36) Dodgers, 1955 (Pee Wee Reese, 36) Dodgers, 1956 (Pee Wee Reese, 37) Braves, 1999 (Walt Weiss, 35, splitting time with Ozzie Guillen, 35) Edgy DC Mar 26 2009 11:50 PM I came up with Rizzuto, Rizzuto, Wagner, and Weiss. Good job. Please send. The problem isn't so much being 35, as that 35 will force you to confront what should have been addressed years ago. You've been oversold. Thing is that he's been an excellent pleyer. G-Fafif Mar 27 2009 05:29 AM Boy, how I'd love to not see Walt Weiss on that list. ]Unfortunately, sportswriters outside New York Jeter may need a bit more. Most baseball analysts I know agree that Jeter should or could have won MVP awards in 1998, 1999, and 2006. That he didn�t probably reflects the rest of the country�s resentment that New York players receive so much national attention (or at any rate, are said to). Yes, it was all anti-New York bias, not the possibility that Juan Gonzalez, Ivan Rodriguez and Joe Mauer helped push less loaded teams over the top and got credit for their accomplishments therein. How come "baseball analysts" are absolutely brilliant and "sportswriters" are a bunch of dumb clucks? Jeter doesn't get enough appreciation from sportswriters? On what planet? Edgy DC Mar 27 2009 06:48 AM Yeah, it's mainstream bias. I've got friends from Pittsburgh and Milwaukee who believed all that intangible shit. And then I schoolded 'em. If the US won the World Baseball Classic, Jeter would have been awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

I know Cooby . I would hate to be a MFY for several reasons but one reason is having to watch Jeter ground out endlessly to SS .

Ken Rosenthal will not be left out of the fun here. At an event in Compton for MLB's RBI program Jeter was present. Erikk Aldridge, the event's moderator, asked Derek Jeter. ] "What did your folks instill in you?" ]"Someone is always more talented than you, but there's no reason someone should outwork you." Jaws literally dropped as Jeter spoke on the eve of Team USA's semifinal against Japan in the World Baseball Classic. And that was just the press guys reacting to The Beacon. Jaws Dropping

Edgy DC wrote: Hi, I'm Darren O'Day. I just pitched 1 1/3 scoreless and hitless, with one walk and one strikeout, and I'm beginning to think I'm for real. And if that doesn't work out, it's back out on the road singing for Panic! A Miserable Tribute to the Smiths. Seriously they could be father and son , Ike Davis sounds like he should be singing Motown.

That's just the kind of optimism we need , his B-R page sponsored by Mets types. Those 87 home runs would bring his career total to a nice round number - 90 http://www.baseball-reference.com/r/riverre01.shtml

My first reaction to reading we are not facing the Marlins or Phillies for that matter to finish the season was yeah great for us , but I think I would prefer it actually especially if as expected things are tight int he standings.

I like the 2B Phillips. I can't wait to see what this thread looks like by opening day...an auspicious start anchored by JCL.

Did you ever tell us who Garcia was a poor mans version off?

ut indefinitely with a right knee injury Not good obviously. Hey this is Castro's big chance....he'll not be pleased about this.

="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":1uix98w3]Is it me, or is Bobby O styling himself in Darlingesque fashion these days?[/quote:1uix98w3] At first glance I thought that was Ron Darling....minus the gut... seawolf17 Mar 19 2009 11:20 AM Either Jay Horwitz or Gary Cohen is my hero. I bounce back and forth depending on the day. Edgy DC Mar 19 2009 12:01 PM Thing is that accounts from the day had Ojeda being a night owl. He's not the first one I'd guess would have kept himself in shape. Teufel makes sense. Mookie, sure. Not Ojeda. Anyhow, he had a falling out with the team as a pitching instructor, so it's nice to see him put that behind him. Edgy DC Mar 21 2009 10:30 AM Training camp, 'Sixty-nine. Only photo I've ever seen of Ralphers in Met togs. John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 21 2009 10:57 AM Lookit Garrett wearing 45. What do you think Tugger would say? Edgy DC Mar 21 2009 11:06 AM It was Garrett in 45 that led me to conclude this was 1969, Garrett's rookie year. I think McGraw missed that camp with military commitments. I'm thinking spring training because Ralph and Connors are in away uniforms, and the rest in home togs. Besides, "special batting instructor" is such a spring training honorific.