LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Was there that awe around Pedro at HIS prime, which was actually slightly better than Koufax's? I'd say, on a pro-rated scale, yes. Maybe not to the extent that people are telling total strangers about seeing him pitch decades later (which has been my experience whenever I get to talking with anybody who saw Koufax), but Pedro at his Fenway peak was a phenomenon in Boston and revered or at least acknowledged as something special nationwide, the caveat being the nation was less invested in the national pastime by then. Before him and after Koufax, Ryan, despite rarely posting the kind of record those guys did, had that kind of mystique that transcended merely being appreciated as a terrific pitcher by baseball fans and baseball people. In one of the many, many, many, many stories that has been written about baseball not being what it used to be, this one from the early '90s, it was fretted that research showed the most popular baseball player in America was a guy in his mid-40s on the verge of retirement. Koufax's legacy perversely benefits from the nature of the length of his career, the going out on as top as one could and not by choice. We got the last of Pedro's prime and then the fadeout. He could still stir Shea given the right circumstances, but when he was giving up five earned runs for every nine innings pitched, it was tough to tell him apart from Brian Lawrence or Brandon Knight. All the immediacy and access of our current era probably doesn't help when it comes to pedestals.