2013-14 Manager Shuffle

[Frayed Knot]

Dusty has long been a target of some baseball scribes, and particularly the number-crunching (sabremetric) types, who feel, among other things, that he overplays veteran players at the expense of younger ones.

[Guest Mets Guy in Michigan]

Seeing Tweets that Girardi has signed a four-year extension with the MFYs.

[Frayed Knot]

George King of the NY Post reporting the same.
4 years at $4 mil per. Suggests that the Cubs interest spurred the Yanx to add one year to the deal.

TEAM	MANAGER	SIGNED THRU	STATUS
METS	Terry Collins	2013	New two-year deal thru 2015 + option
BRAVES	Fredi Gonzalez	2013	Has 2014 Option
PHILLIES	Ryne Sandberg	Interim	Given permanent job thru 2016
NATIONALS	Davey Johnson	2013	Will not return
MARLINS	Mike Redmond	2015
CARDINALS	Mike Matheny	2013	Has option for 2014
PIRATES	Clint Hurdle	2014
CUBS	Dale Sveum	2014	Fired - Sept '13
REDS	Dusty Baker	2014	Fired one year into a two-year extension
BREWERS	Ron Roenicke	2014
DODGERS	Don Mattingly	2013	Has option for 2014
GIANTS	Bruce Bochy	2016
PADRES	Bud Black	2013	Has options for 2014 & 15
DBACKS	Kirk Gibson	2014
ROCKIES	Walt Weiss	2013
RED SOX	John Farrell	2016
YANKEES	Joe Girardi	2013	Re-signed thru 2017
ORIOLES	Buck Showalter	2018
BLUE JAYS	John Gibbons	2014
RAYS	Joe Maddon	2015
TIGERS	Jim Leyland	2013
INDIANS	Terry Francona	2016
ROYALS	Ned Yost	2013
TWINS	Ron Gardenhire	2013	Extended thru 2015
WHITE SOX	Robin Ventura	2014
ANGELS	Mike Scioscia	2018
RANGERS	Ron Washington	2014
MARINERS	Eric Wedge	2013	Will not return
ASTROS	Bo Porter	2013
ATHLETICS	Bob Melvin	2016

[MFS62]

If they want to fire somebody whose poor decisions have decided a lot of games, somebody should fire Angel Hernandez.
Just sayin'.
Back to topic.
Why hasn't Ned Yost been re-upped already?
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[Vic Sage]

So, according to this chart --

[u:3t219tuc]Those not coming back (with job still open):[/u:3t219tuc]
Davey Johnson, Nats - retiring
Dusty Baker, Reds - should retire
Dale Sveum, Cubs - coaching job
Eric Wedge, Sea - ditto

[u:3t219tuc]Signed only thru this season (with no new deal or options for next season):[/u:3t219tuc]
Jim Leyland, Tigers - he'll be back if he wants to be
Walt Weiss, Rockies - organization guy will get more than 1 year
Ned Yost, KC - they may not extend him
Bo Porter, Astros - what difference does it make?

[u:3t219tuc]Team options for 2014 (not yet exercised):[/u:3t219tuc]
Fredi Gonzalez, Braves - will be exercised after post-season
Mike Metheny, Cards - ditto
Don Mattingly, LA - ditto
Bud Black, SD - i think they still like him but he's been there a long while now

So that looks like 4-7 jobs open for next season.

Who are the best current candidates for:
Nationals -
Reds -
Cubs -
Mariners -
Royals -
Astros -
Padres -

Edited October 10, 2013 by Guest

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Chip Hale!

[Vic Sage]

yes, but for which team? I don't know where he has any connections or ties, besides Minny, Oakland, LA, Mets and D-backs.
Maybe Seattle, since he was a former PCL manager of the year.

[HahnSolo]

I think Porter stays in Houston.

How about Joey Cora to the Mariners?

[Edgy MD]

Joe McEwing, Future Manager:

• Likes McBunting. (He expands on why.)
  
• Dislikes Infield McShifting.
  
• Pitch McCounts? He thinks they overdo that.
  
• McHunches vs. McNumbers? He favors a compromise approach. He also thinks you need to justify your thinking, which beats most McHunch advocates.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Royals will probably hire Dusty.

[Frayed Knot]

Vic Sage wrote: Who are the best current candidates for: Nationals - Reds - Cubs - Mariners - Royals - Astros - Padres -

Matt Williams, currently on the DBacks staff, seems to be getting the most buzz. Could interview and/or fit anywhere I suppose but probably won't take a "bad" job (Houston, Seattle) on the theory that he'll get a good one eventually even if he has to wait a year.

Jayson Werth was recently quoted as wanting Cal Ripken to manage the Nats. Not that anyone asked him but it threw the idea out there and now Cal himself isn't batting the idea down. Sure he hasn't managed or even coached anywhere before but he's Cal Fucking Ripken.
Is he feuding with Orioles owner Angelos? (is anyone NOT feuding with him?)
Will the Nats hire him just to stick it to Angelos?
Will GM Mike Rizzo be willing to share the headlines with such a strong local presence as Ripken?

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

• Likes McBunting. (He expands on why.)
• Dislikes Infield McShifting.
• Pitch McCounts? He thinks they overdo that.
• McHunches vs. McNumbers? He favors a compromise approach. He also thinks you need to justify your thinking, which beats most McHunch advocates.

Joe McEwing, Future Manager:

I think I like the idea of a SuperManager.

[Guest Mets � Willets Point]

Can he manage against Randy Johnson?

[metirish]

Some McNuggets right there from Joe.....clicked on the link but didn't see anything like an interview,

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Reasonably well, but not as well as you'd think, maybe.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

metirish wrote: Some McNuggets right there from Joe.....clicked on the link but didn't see anything like an interview,

It's actually at Fangraphs.

[Guest sharpie]

Maybe Cincy talking to Paul O'Neill. Maybe not.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/reds-didn-call-o-neill-article-1.1481353

[Vic Sage]

Frayed Knot wrote: ...Sure he hasn't managed or even coached anywhere before but he's Cal Fucking Ripken.

You gotta do what you gotta do to get the job, i suppose. Hell, its worked pretty well for Mrs. Ripken.

[Edgy MD]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: metirish wrote: Some McNuggets right there from Joe.....clicked on the link but didn't see anything like an interview, It's actually at Fangraphs.

Yeah, sorry about that. I accidentally included the link to the link. Who needs that?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Jim Leland stepping down, Internet reports all at once.

[Edgy MD]

Predict that replacement NOW!!!!

It's tough, because.... who couldn't manage that team? It's a dumb guy's dream.

[Vic Sage]

get Torre on the phone... STAT!

[metirish]

A few years ago people(me) would have been salivating over Leyland being available....not so much now I think.

Edited October 21, 2013 by Guest

[Guest Mets � Willets Point]

I'm trying to find the image of Jim Leyland reacting to Prince Fielder's belly flop. I think that captures the exact moment he decided to resign.

[Frayed Knot]

TEAM	MANAGER	SIGNED THRU	STATUS
METS	Terry Collins	2013	New two-year deal thru 2015 + option
BRAVES	Fredi Gonzalez	2013	Has 2014 Option
PHILLIES	Ryne Sandberg	Interim	Given permanent job thru 2016
NATIONALS	Davey Johnson	2013	Will not return
MARLINS	Mike Redmond	2015
CARDINALS	Mike Matheny	2013	Has option for 2014
PIRATES	Clint Hurdle	2014
CUBS	Dale Sveum	2014	Fired - Sept '13
REDS	Dusty Baker	2014	Fired one year into a two-year extension
BREWERS	Ron Roenicke	2014
DODGERS	Don Mattingly	2013	Has option for 2014
GIANTS	Bruce Bochy	2016
PADRES	Bud Black	2013	Has options for 2014 & 15
DBACKS	Kirk Gibson	2014
ROCKIES	Walt Weiss	2013
RED SOX	John Farrell	2016
YANKEES	Joe Girardi	2013	Re-signed thru 2017
ORIOLES	Buck Showalter	2018
BLUE JAYS	John Gibbons	2014
RAYS	Joe Maddon	2015
TIGERS	Jim Leyland	2013	Will not return
INDIANS	Terry Francona	2016
ROYALS	Ned Yost	2013
TWINS	Ron Gardenhire	2013	Extended thru 2015
WHITE SOX	Robin Ventura	2014
ANGELS	Mike Scioscia	2018
RANGERS	Ron Washington	2014
MARINERS	Eric Wedge	2013	Will not return
ASTROS	Bo Porter	2013
ATHLETICS	Bob Melvin	2016

[Guest sharpie]

Reds hire pitching coach Bryan Price as their manager in a two-year deal.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

The Price is right, bitch!


I don't know much about this guy, he was a lefthanded pitcher but topped out in AA/AAA. The Reds have an awful lot of talent, I think they could easily have been where the Cardinals are now.

[Edgy MD]

You tell me Price + Reds + Pitching + Lefthanded and I get this guy:



Had that David Cone thing going --- tough dude with a boyish all-American face. I also associate him with those big letters on the back of the Reds uniforms.

Always good to see pitchers get the big chair.

Agreed about the Reds talent, and it's not like the Tigers, where their big bats force them to trade off defense. Votto and Bruce are defensive assets. A lot of meh seasons this year from the supporting cast though. Mesaraco, Frazier, Cozart, and Phillips (despite 100 RBI) took turns slumping all year. That's talent!

[Edgy MD]

Oh, and Terry Collins is now MLB's oldest manager.

[MFS62]

Mets � Willets Point wrote: I'm trying to find the image of Jim Leyland reacting to Prince Fielder's belly flop. I think that captures the exact moment he decided to resign.

During his press conference yesterday, he said he made decision after a win in Kansas City back in September. Had breakfast with the GM the next day and told him, but they didn't tell anyone else in the organization until now.

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