Vegas Props

[ashie62]

The team win totals get released tomorrow so LVI says..for now anyway player props are out..

the over/under on HR's by David Wright is 20 1/2

Wins by Dickey 14 1/2

Update tomorrow...

[Guest The Second Spitter]

Ashie62 wrote: Wins by Dickey 14 1/2.

I'd stake the family ranch on under.

[bmfc1]

I'd take the over. He won 20 games for a bad team and now he pitches for a very good team.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

PLUS plus, he's likely to get a few extra 7ths and 8ths and 9ths out on the mound, without the pitcher's-spot mid-game PHing dilemma.

Barring weird-ass injury, he should be able to pitch significantly worse than last season, and still come out of it with 15-16 wins.

[ashie62]

I would think all David would have to do is stay healthy and he would make that number by accident..

[Edgy MD]

Staking the family ranch on a 38-year-old pitcher seems like a bad bet on any day.

I'll take the Ike Davis bet.

[Ceetar]

https://sports.bovada.lv/sports-betting/mlb-baseball-team-props.jsp

This is the site I use anyway.

Mets 74.5
Marlins 63.5
Jays 88.5
Astros 59.5 ouch.


40:1 for Ike to win the HR title.
25:1 for Wright and MVP
33:1 for Santana and the Cy Young
50:1 for Niese

[ashie62]

Bovada is live...did not see an MFY Total...


Arizona Diamondbacks - 81�
Atlanta Braves - 87 1/2
Baltimore Orioles -78 1/2
Boston Red Sox - 82 1/2
Chicago Cubs - 73 1/2
Chicago White Sox - 81 1/2
Cincinnati Reds - 91 1/2
Cleveland Indians -78 1/2
Colorado Rockies - 71 1/2
Detroit Tigers - 92 1/2
Houston Astros -59 1/2
Kansas City Royals - 78 1/2
Los Angeles Angels - 91 1/2
Miami Marlins - 63 1/2
Milwaukee Brewers -80 1/2
Minnesota Twins - 68 1/2
New York Mets - 74 1/2
Oakland Athletics - 84 1/2
Philadelphia Phillies - 84 1/2
Pittsburgh Pirates - 77 1/2
San Diego Padres - 74 1/2
San Francisco Giants -87 1/2
Seattle Mariners - 77 1/2
St. Louis Cardinals -86 1/2
Tampa Bay Rays - 87 1/2
Texas Rangers - 86 1/2
Toronto Blue Jays - 88 1/2
Washington Nationals - 92 1/2

[Guest The Second Spitter]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: PLUS plus, he's likely to get a few extra 7ths and 8ths and 9ths out on the mound, without the pitcher's-spot mid-game PHing dilemma.

He'll also be pitching to fewer pitchers and pitching around fewer 8 hitters.

MINUS minus: astroturf.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

The Second Spitter wrote: PLUS plus, he's likely to get a few extra 7ths and 8ths and 9ths out on the mound, without the pitcher's-spot mid-game PHing dilemma. He'll also be pitching to fewer pitchers and pitching around fewer 8 hitters. MINUS minus: astroturf.

Does he gain anything by pitching half his games in a domed environment?

[Ceetar]

no Dodgers on that list either. I think they're confused.

[Edgy MD]

I imagine that dome will be more typically open.

[Guest The Second Spitter]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: PLUS plus, he's likely to get a few extra 7ths and 8ths and 9ths out on the mound, without the pitcher's-spot mid-game PHing dilemma. He'll also be pitching to fewer pitchers and pitching around fewer 8 hitters. MINUS minus: astroturf. Does he gain anything by pitching half his games in a domed environment?

Dome also counteracts the Magnus Effect because it shuts out the humidity. But the lack of grass & soil is the biggie. Grass & soil attract a lot of moisture. Moisture does strange things to the flight of a baseball and knucklers rely on it.

Compare the Grass/Artificial splits of your favorite knucklers; They all invariably have worse S/BB splits on astroturf. E.g. Niekro's was negligible: 1.86/1.80, Wakefield's horrible: 1.89/1.43. The reason stems from the fact that when their knuckleball stops moving they are forced to start nibbling the corners of the plate. Also that pitch Dickey throws that starts off outside the strikezone and creeps-in will be a BB over astroturf more often.

[TransMonk]

I try to typically err on the side of losing, but I'm taking the over at 74 1/2.