Random Mets Jibber Jabber

[batmagadanleadoff]

Good one, Grimm. Here's a poster that might be tough to execute on account of the source photos perhaps not being easy to find. It's the "No More Words" poster. On the left would be sign man Karl Ehrhardt with his famous "There Are No Words" sign flashed right after the last out of the '69 series was made. On the right would be Citi Field security taking down a "Sign Reyes" sign.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

The Foster Bay poster is amazing.

Mike Vail and Duda in the works?

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Fantastic, Grimmy.

[G-Fafif]

Grant and Wilpon, rightly celebrated in the spirit of their ad, here.

[Ceetar]

Linked a ticket giveaway on my site to a Mets trivia question. I really didn't think it was that hard, but a lot of people aren't really paying close attention apparently. Lots of wrong answers, so..

Who was the first Mets pitcher to get a win on Opening Day?

[Edgy MD]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: The Foster Bay poster is amazing. Mike Vail and Duda in the works?

We're in danger of shitting on something good, are we not?

[Benjamin Grimm]

Yeah, there's no Vail/Duda in the works until and unless it becomes apparent that the comparison is apt.

I'd much rather see it turn out to be Strawberry/Duda.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Yeah, there's no Vail/Duda in the works until and unless it becomes apparent that the comparison is apt. I'd much rather see it turn out to be Strawberry/Duda.

Good call!

[ashie62]

CBS Put out their predictions for the season today.

They have the Mets fifth but don't diss them.

Michael Pineda & Ryan Braun picked for busts of the year. I like that at least.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/18277637/season-predictions-tigers-will-win-world-series-verlander-bags-cy

[Guest sharpie]

are there any publications that have the Mets picked for any finish other than 5th?

[Frayed Knot]

sharpie wrote: are there any publications that have the Mets picked for any finish other than 5th?

I think several picked them for sixth.

[ashie62]

They should have listed Bay as a candidate for comeback player of the year...

[Guest Mets � Willets Point]

Awesome of the day: Vintage Mr. Met on a bicycle.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Awesome of the day: Vintage Mr. Met on a bicycle.

Mr. Met was in deep Yankee territory when he took that bicycle stroll. That's the Bronx County Supreme Courthouse on our left (Mr. Met's right).



You might notice that many of the fan interviews used in the Mets highlight film of the '63 season were shot on the steps of the Bronx Courthouse. Since Mr. Met debuted in '63, maybe those fan interviews were shot on the same day depicted in the bicycle ride pic.

[batmagadanleadoff]

The suspect is not hatless. I repeat: The suspect is not hatless.



Female Suspect On L.I. Seen Wearing Mets Cap During Bank Robbery

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/04/05/female-suspect-on-l-i-seen-wearing-mets-cap-during-bank-robbery/

[Ceetar]

Only 6 Mets, 24% of the active roster, played in Shea Stadium as a Met.

Parnell and Niese only twice. Murphy only for that last two months.

Santana, Pelfrey, and Wright are the only three that even really remember 'collapsing'. When the other three showed up they were already falling down.

Also means most of them don't remember the Mets being a winning team. I'm wondering if that's why people are talking about Citi Field feeling more like home. We remember Reyes and Beltran playing there, but most of these guys are Citi guys.

[Guest The Second Spitter]

Ceetar wrote: Only 6 Mets, 24% of the active roster, played in Shea Stadium as a Met. Parnell and Niese only twice. Murphy only for that last two months. Santana, Pelfrey, and Wright are the only three that even really remember 'collapsing'. When the other three showed up they were already falling down. .

Muffy played an integral role in this doggie doodie game.

(Seriously considered giving up baseball after that game).

[Benjamin Grimm]

Is that the game where Murphy led off the inning with a triple and represented the potential winning run, and the Mets couldn't get him home? I remember how deflated I was when David Wright struck out.

[Guest The Second Spitter]

Correct. His muff in LF also let the Cubs tie earlier in the game. However, my T.W.A.T Player of the Game was Ramon Castro who managed to leave 4 in scoring position in 2 ABs, including whiffing on 3 pitches to end the 9th with the bases loaded after aforementioned triple.

The game was also the final nail in Duaner Sanchez's Mets career.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

That's the game I go back to again and again, it really turned me against the whole franchise. After that, it was nothing but regrettably bad ideas and bad luck, demolishing Shea, rehiring jerry and Omar, the economic collapse and madoff mess, the idiotic putz trade, the bernazard affair, the thud with which Citi field opened, etc etc.

[Edgy MD]

Disappointments of 2001 triggered a lot of bad ideas also. Mo Vaughn, Art Howe, throwing Jason Bay into a deal for two ephemeral relievers, Bill Singer's nightclub act, etc. Come into the warm blue light of forgiveness.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I'm getting there but cannot forget that all the right things this group is doing right today results from leadership that basically arrived at the commissioners gunpoint, not because the owners suddenly got intelligent religion. I wouldnt put it past the Wilpons, now that the immediate crisis is over, to kick the eggheads out of office and resume their prior contempt for fans and common sense.

[Edgy MD]

Like a sinner before the gates of Heaven, you'll come crawling on back to Fred.

[Ceetar]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I'm getting there but cannot forget that all the right things this group is doing right today results from leadership that basically arrived at the commissioners gunpoint, not because the owners suddenly got intelligent religion. I wouldnt put it past the Wilpons, now that the immediate crisis is over, to kick the eggheads out of office and resume their prior contempt for fans and common sense.

You can't ignore that Murphy, Tejada, Nieuwenhuis, Ike, Duda, Thole (extension for Wright) Pelfrey, Gee, Niese, Parnell and even Harvey and Familia and Mejia are all the previous administrations work.

[Edgy MD]

Better off just flat stating outright that this is still pretty much Omar's team.

[Guest The Second Spitter]

Edgy DC wrote: Disappointments of 2001 triggered a lot of bad ideas also. Mo Vaughn, Art Howe, throwing Jason Bay into a deal for two ephemeral relievers, Bill Singer's nightclub act, etc. Come into the warm blue light of forgiveness.

If anything the present climate feels more like the early Duquette era.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I wasn't slamming the personnel so much as the fact that the organization impeded its progress by thinking we wouldn't notice they were also doing dumb shit just for show, getting raped in trades, giving away idiotic contracts, and counting money it hadn't earned from a stadium designed to appeal to the 1% The Wilpons so wanted to be.

[Ceetar]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I wasn't slamming the personnel so much as the fact that the organization impeded its progress by thinking we wouldn't notice they were also doing dumb shit just for show, getting raped in trades, giving away idiotic contracts, and counting money it hadn't earned from a stadium designed to appeal to the 1% The Wilpons so wanted to be.

well I think everything was compounded by bad timing and a confluence of events of Madoff, the economy, investing in a new stadium at that exact time, and suddenly being struck with the injury bug. (because winning seasons even would've mitigated most of that) Contracts like Bay and Perez don't look so bad if they even got half the value from them and the payroll is 40 more.

[Guest The Second Spitter]

Ceetar wrote: Contracts like Bay and Perez don't look so bad if they even got half the value from them and the payroll is 40 more.

The Bay signing reeked of exactly what Bucket is talking about. They signed the second -[crossout]most expensive[/crossout] best OF FA available that year, despite Bay's history of injuries and incongruous career development in the middle of the steroid era.

[Ceetar]

The Second Spitter wrote: Ceetar wrote: Contracts like Bay and Perez don't look so bad if they even got half the value from them and the payroll is 40 more. The Bay signing reeked of what exactly Bucket is talking about. They signed the second -[crossout]most expensive[/crossout] best OF FA available that year, despite Bay's history of injuries and incongruous career development in the middle of the steroid era.

The middle of the steroid era? Minor league drug testing started in 2001, Bay was drafted in 2000.

Major League drug testing started 2004, Bay came up in 2003.

He had good years right before getting to the Mets. I don't buy arguments (And I've seen them) that he stopped using something undetectable after inking the deal. The deal made sense, Holliday was too big a contract, and Bay definitely could've provided power in an otherwise good lineup that needed a little more SLG. His contract is barely prohibitive to what was a 140 million dollar club, even if he was only smacking half the home runs of previous years. Yeah, you wouldn't get return on investment, but it's suppy/demand and that was tone of the sureer option to get the power the Mets needed/wanted. Addressing 2010 with just hope that the injuries of 2009 and David Wright's power slump were behind them would've been worse.