Edgy MD Site Manager Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 You really think he's out of his depth?
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 attgig wrote:Pujols received ten years and $254MM from the Angels, but Bob Nightengale of USA Today says the Marlins offered ten years and $275MM. That would have tied Alex Rodriguez for the largest contract guarantee in baseball history. Nightengale says that with incentives and Florida's lack of a state income tax, the deal could have been worth nearly $300MM.So he's not a spoiled money grabbing prick after all.
smg58 Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 I'm guessing the no-trade clause mattered some, especially since they were already far past the amount of money he'd ever be able to spend.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 Edgy DC wrote:You really think he's out of his depth?His checkbook makes him irrelevant. As far as depth, like the shallow end of the pool.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 I think recent history has shown clearly that teams with payroll restrictions can excel.
Guest metsguyinmichigan Guests Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 Ashie62 wrote:Edgy DC wrote:I don't know if it's Lennon or Alderson being snarky butDavid Lennon wrote:Alderson on Pujols' 10-year, $250-million deal. "I hope he got a box of chocolates with that." #metsSandy should stay in the childrens lounge while the adults talk business..I think when all is said and done, and Jose's contract is proven to hamper the Fish when he's injured, slower and older, Sandy is going to look pretty smart.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 I think MGIM it's more the idea that the Mets weren't even involved that irks, not that they wouldn't surpass the Marlins offer which I think most agree is generous.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 This goes back to the A-Rod offseason back in the pleistocene days. If the final deal was not right for the Mets, I don't care if they didn't display a more impressive posture. The deal wasn't going to work. Onward.They likely could have gotten a better deal at the top of last season, but they gambled and lost. We've known that a long time now. Did they show Reyes enough love? Did he show them enough love? Bleh. This isn't One Live to Live.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 Yeah, I have no problem with Sandy's sane and measured approach. As much as I hated to lose Jose, what are the odds that a guy who's been injury prone in his 20's is going to be less injury prone in his 30's?
Guest metsguyinmichigan Guests Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 Kind of like Fonzie. I was really upset when we let him go to the Giants. But the guys who can make the decisions without the emotional attachments made the right call.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 And by signing Fonzie to a prohibitive long-term contract, Gary Marshall handcuffed himself long-term. And when it came time to rebuild his team after Ron Howard and Donnie Most left, he had to shop bottom-shelf and came up with Ted McGinley and Cathy Silvers, and was forced to move career backups like Scott Baio and Erin Moran into the top of the lineup.That's no way to stay competitive.Wait... what?!
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 The difference between the Fonzie non-deal and the Reyes non-deal was that the Reyes decision was clearly dictated by a shrinking payroll mandate where the Fonzie one was more like a gut decision based on two years of declining production and rising injuries.Now whether they were willing to go as high/long as the Marlins did were the restrictions not there we'll never know. Here only 7 of the 32 peeps who answered my quickie poll said they thought the final price too high (with 7 others on the fence) so it's hard to argue that it was, on its face, a bad deal going in.I, personally, had little problem with letting Fonzie walk at the time.
Guest Mets � Willets Point Guests Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 Edgy DC wrote:And by signing Fonzie to a prohibitive long-term contract, Gary Marshall handcuffed himself longterm. And when it came time to rebuild his team after Ron Howard and Donnie Most left, he had to shop bottom shelf and came up with Ted McGinley and Cathy Silvers, and was forced to move career backups like Scott Baio and Erin Moran into the top of the lineup.That's no way to stay competitive.Wait... what?!BOC
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