Sillie Phillie Quiz

[Edgy MD]

I stumbled over an article somebody wrote about the 25 Best Relievers in Phillies History. While it's just one unknown guy's opinion, I thougth it might be fun to test your knowledge of who Danny Ozark, Charlie Manuel, Dallas Green, and Mayo Smith have been signaling for all these years.

Rulez: You guess the guy AND the slot he falls into. Getting the guy correct nets you 25 points, but minus one for every point off you are on the slot. So if you guess that Guy Jones is the nunber two reliever on this list, but he's in fact 17th, you get 10 points (25-15). You lose 10 points for every guy you guess who is not on the list at all.

Some hints: Five also played with the Mets. Four played before the Mets era and you frankly deserver about a million points if you come up with their names. (Even some guys from 1962-1980 will likely be elusive.) One guy had two tours of duty with the Phils, one before the Mets existed and one after the Mets came on the scene. It all threatens to derail the whole enterprise, but we'll see.

So, who are the top 25 Phillie relievers of all time, according to some guy.

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[Benjamin Grimm]

How about Kent Tekulve at 10?

[Ceetar]

I doubt I'd be able to name 5 on the list,but hey..

Brad Lidge, 11th.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Steve Bedrosian was a Phillie, wasn't he? I'll guess him at 8.

And how about Willie Hernandez? Let's say 14 for him.

[Edgy MD]

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10 . Brad Lidge (24 points for Ceetar)
9 . Steve Bedrosian (24 points for Ben Grimm)
8 . Kent Tekulve (23 points for Ben Grimm)
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Not Ranked: Willie Hernandez

Standings
1. Ben Grimm (37)
2. Ceetar (24)

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Yeah, this is too hard so I'm just trying to remember 25 Phillies relievers. Here are my top 16

1 Tug McGraw
2 Ron Reed
3 Ryan Madson
4 Gene Garber
5 Brad Lidge
6 Steve Bedrosian
7 Mitch Williams
8 Mike Jackson
9 Roger McDowell
10 Al Holland
11 Bruce Ruffin
12 Heathcliffe Slocumb
13 Ricky Bottalico
14 Alejandro Pena
15 Dennis Cook
16 Jeff Gray (I don't know why I'm remembering this guy but I am)

[Edgy MD]

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14. Ricky Bottalico (24 points for JC Lunchbucket)
13. Roger McDowell (21 points for JC Lunchbucket)
12. Ryan Madson (16 points for JC Lunchbucket)
11. Al Holland (24 points for JC Lunchbucket)
10. Brad Lidge (24 points for Ceetar)
9. Steve Bedrosian (24 points for Ben Grimm)
8. Kent Tekulve (23 points for Ben Grimm)
7. Mitch Williams (25 points for JC Lunchbucket)
6. Heathcliff Slocumb (19 points for JC Lunchbucket)
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4. Gene Garber (25 points for JC Lunchbucket)
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2. Ron Reed (25 points for JC Lunchbucket)
1. Tug McGraw (25 points for JC Lunchbucket)

Not Ranked: Willie Hernandez, Mike Jackson, Bruce Ruffin, Alejandro Pena, Dennis Cook, Jeff Gray

Standings
1. John Cougar Lunchbucket (154)
2. Ben Grimm (37)
3. Ceetar (24)

[Guest sharpie]

#3: Jose Mesa

[Ceetar]

Wagner, 5.

[Edgy MD]

Great job. Funny how many of these guys made an impact but I far more associate them with other teams. Holland and Reed are Phillies all the way in my head. But Tekulve is a Buc, Bedrock and Garber are Braves, Slocumb is a freaking Mariner (and a Bronte hero), and McGraw is naturally a Met.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I got 1, 2 4 and 7 on the nose? Holy shit, I win!!

[Edgy MD]

Ceetar looking to climb back into the race by bullseyeing Wagner.

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19. Jose Mesa (9 points for sharpie)
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14. Ricky Bottalico (24 points for JC Lunchbucket)
13. Roger McDowell (21 points for JC Lunchbucket)
12. Ryan Madson (16 points for JC Lunchbucket)
11. Al Holland (24 points for JC Lunchbucket)
10. Brad Lidge (24 points for Ceetar)
9. Steve Bedrosian (24 points for Ben Grimm)
8. Kent Tekulve (23 points for Ben Grimm)
7. Mitch Williams (25 points for JC Lunchbucket)
6. Heathcliff Slocumb (19 points for JC Lunchbucket)
5. Billy Wagner (25 points for Ceetar)
4. Gene Garber (25 points for JC Lunchbucket)
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2. Ron Reed (25 points for JC Lunchbucket)
1. Tug McGraw (25 points for JC Lunchbucket)

Not Ranked: Willie Hernandez, Mike Jackson, Bruce Ruffin, Alejandro Pena, Dennis Cook, Jeff Gray

Standings
1. John Cougar Lunchbucket (154)
2. Ceetar (49)
2. Ben Grimm (37)
4. sharpie (9)

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

20. Tom Gordon

[Edgy MD]

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19. Jose Mesa (9 points for sharpie)
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17. Flash Gordon, King of the Impossible (22 points fof JC Lunchbucket)
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14. Ricky Bottalico (24 points for JC Lunchbucket)
13. Roger McDowell (21 points for JC Lunchbucket)
12. Ryan Madson (16 points for JC Lunchbucket)
11. Al Holland (24 points for JC Lunchbucket)
10. Brad Lidge (24 points for Ceetar)
9. Steve Bedrosian (24 points for Ben Grimm)
8. Kent Tekulve (23 points for Ben Grimm)
7. Mitch Williams (25 points for JC Lunchbucket)
6. Heathcliff Slocumb (19 points for JC Lunchbucket)
5. Billy Wagner (25 points for Ceetar)
4. Gene Garber (25 points for JC Lunchbucket)
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2. Ron Reed (25 points for JC Lunchbucket)
1. Tug McGraw (25 points for JC Lunchbucket)

Not Ranked: Willie Hernandez, Mike Jackson, Bruce Ruffin, Alejandro Pena, Dennis Cook, Jeff Gray

Standings
1. John Cougar Lunchbucket (176)
2. Ceetar (49)
2. Ben Grimm (37)
4. sharpie (9)

[metirish]

Hamels

Turk

[Edgy MD]

The rest are all going to be hard, all but one or two really hard.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Fun Fact: Ron Reed also played two seasons in the NBA for the Pistons.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Jim Konstanty, 20?

[dinosaur jesus]

Jack Baldschun.

[Edgy MD]

Dino J., I need a ranking for your guess.

Fun Fact: Ron Reed also played two seasons in the NBA for the Pistons.

That's a fun fact!

Jim Konstanty, 20?

I learn something new each and every day, especially from Benji Grimm, who whacks his way into second. What I don't need to learn any more is not to understimate Ben. Jim Kostanty (1944, 1946, 1948-1956, Phillies 1948-1954). He had 54 Phillie saves retroactively credited to him, led the league in games once, games finished twice, and threw as many as 152 innings (1950) in relief.

What a bullseye!


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20. Jim Kostanzy (25 points for Ben Grimm)
19. Jose Mesa (9 points for sharpie)
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17. Flash Gordon, King of the Impossible (22 points fof JC Lunchbucket)
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14. Ricky Bottalico (24 points for JC Lunchbucket)
13. Roger McDowell (21 points for JC Lunchbucket)
12. Ryan Madson (16 points for JC Lunchbucket)
11. Al Holland (24 points for JC Lunchbucket)
10. Brad Lidge (24 points for Ceetar)
9. Steve Bedrosian (24 points for Ben Grimm)
8. Kent Tekulve (23 points for Ben Grimm)
7. Mitch Williams (25 points for JC Lunchbucket)
6. Heathcliff Slocumb (19 points for JC Lunchbucket)
5. Billy Wagner (25 points for Ceetar)
4. Gene Garber (25 points for JC Lunchbucket)
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2. Ron Reed (25 points for JC Lunchbucket)
1. Tug McGraw (25 points for JC Lunchbucket)

Not Ranked: Willie Hernandez, Mike Jackson, Bruce Ruffin, Alejandro Pena, Dennis Cook, Jeff Gray

Standings
1. John Cougar Lunchbucket (176)
2. Ben Grimm (62)
2. Ceetar (49)
4. sharpie (9)

[Benjamin Grimm]

I know of Jim Konstanty because he was a real anomaly; a relief pitcher winning the NL MVP award in 1950! That wouldn't happen again for another 25 or 30 years.

[metirish]

metirish wrote: Hamels Turk

Hamels 25

Turk 23

[Edgy MD]

Sorry to miss those two. Not to be smart, but I'm going to have to ask for full names.

[metirish]

Colbert Michael Hamels 25

Steven John "Turk" Wendell 23

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Oh, I know why you're asking for names. The Phils had another reliever named Turk. Turk Farrell? I'll say he's the 23

[metirish]

See what I did there Edgy?, I inspired a choice from Bucket.

[Edgy MD]

Thanks for cooperating. Unfortunately, Hamels and Wendell are both miscues

Richard Joseph "Turk" Farrell (1956-1969) is our recidivist Phil (1956-1961, 1967-1969). He earned 65 Phillie saves and routinely pitched over 80 innings. He's an interesting case of how some teams were seeing the value in a relief ace and others weren't. He was exclusively a reliever for his first six years, the last of which led to a trade to LA. He moves on to Houston who use him as a middling starter for five years. They trade him back to Phillie and he returns to the pen for his last three seasons.



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20. Jim Kostanzy (25 points for Ben Grimm)
19. Jose Mesa (9 points for sharpie)
18. Turk Farrell (20 points for JC Lunchbucket
17. Tom Gordon (22 points fof JC Lunchbucket)
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14. Ricky Bottalico (24 points for JC Lunchbucket)
13. Roger McDowell (21 points for JC Lunchbucket)
12. Ryan Madson (16 points for JC Lunchbucket)
11. Al Holland (24 points for JC Lunchbucket)
10. Brad Lidge (24 points for Ceetar)
9. Steve Bedrosian (24 points for Ben Grimm)
8. Kent Tekulve (23 points for Ben Grimm)
7. Mitch Williams (25 points for JC Lunchbucket)
6. Heathcliff Slocumb (19 points for JC Lunchbucket)
5. Billy Wagner (25 points for Ceetar)
4. Gene Garber (25 points for JC Lunchbucket)
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2. Ron Reed (25 points for JC Lunchbucket)
1. Tug McGraw (25 points for JC Lunchbucket)

Not Ranked: Willie Hernandez, Mike Jackson, Bruce Ruffin, Alejandro Pena, Dennis Cook, Jeff Gray, Cole Hamels, Turk Wendell

Standings
1. John Cougar Lunchbucket (196)
2. Ben Grimm (62)
2. Ceetar (49)
4. sharpie (9)
5. Metirish (-20)

[batmagadanleadoff]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Yeah, this is too hard so I'm just trying to remember 25 Phillies relievers. Here are my top 16 1 Tug McGraw 2 Ron Reed 3 Ryan Madson 4 Gene Garber 5 Brad Lidge 6 Steve Bedrosian 7 Mitch Williams 8 Mike Jackson 9 Roger McDowell 10 Al Holland 11 Bruce Ruffin 12 Heathcliffe Slocumb 13 Ricky Bottalico 14 Alejandro Pena 15 Dennis Cook 16 Jeff Gray (I don't know why I'm remembering this guy but I am)

Remind me to never invite you to my self-serve smorgasbord buffet luncheon. What a hog.

[metirish]

I really feel I should be like -10 or something.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Remind me to never invite you to my self-serve smorgasbord buffet luncheon. What a hog.

I thought I was doing it wrong and everyone would be guessing 25.