Mets @ Florida IGT 7/22: The Wright Time

[Guest Edgy DC]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: I would've stuck with Duda here, I think.

Yeah, I think so too. Marlins have another lefty in the pen. Let Duda face the righty and save Hairum Scairum in case you face that guy.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Also, he's, like, a MUCH better offensive player than Hairston (well-timed HRs and once nice Saturday aside).

[Guest Edgy DC]

Ceetar wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Thunderstorms expected for tonight. Plus a Miami team still pissed about the pointless fly-thru on Monday. No Bay, could he be the roster move?

I think he's under the impression that the Tholes having a kid means he gets another few days of that paternity leave, and nobody wants to correct him.

[Guest Edgy DC]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Also, he's, like, a MUCH better offensive player than Hairston (well-timed HRs and once nice Saturday aside).

Yeah, I was just throwing the marginal data in there, in case there was any disputing the primary data.

Wright's yips are off the DL also.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Holy shit! Keith Hernandez comes out of retirement and makes the play on the bunt.

[Guest Edgy DC]

What's the point of invoking the infield fly rule on a foul pop?

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Makes the ump feel important?

Parnell must not be living right this week.

[Frayed Knot]

Edgy DC wrote: What's the point of invoking the infield fly rule on a foul pop?

The ump's call there is: "Infield Fly if Fair".
Without that you'd run into the possibility of the pop blowing fair and the IFR not called.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

The weak pitch has become the out pitch... and a nasty one at that. (Imagine if he could throw a semi-decent change-up?)

[Guest Edgy DC]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Makes the ump feel important? Parnell must not be living right this week.

But had the guts to muscle up and finish the job, if messily.

Did not know there was a Infield-Fly-the-Batter's-out-if-Fair call.

Hang onto your butts.

[Ceetar]

I've always kinda liked Parnell. Thought he had the makeup to be a good reliever. slider on 3-2 to get him looking? nice..

[MFS62]

His last three eighth inning appearances have sure given the fans a thrill.
Later

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

He's always had-- presumably-- the raw stuff (hard stuff, and an intermittently-decent slider).

It's control-- there it is again!-- that's been the rub. Now, he seems to have more command of the slider than the fastball. ("Effectively wild" he ain't, either-- when he misses, he's either in another area code, or he's right on the white.)

Aaaaand Everett is apparently as sick of sitting through this game as we are. (However much Gary and Keith keep trying to push how "crazy" it's been-- presumably to push the Reds-'86 game parallels?-- it's been a mucky, ugly grind, like most Florida specials.)

[ashie62]

Command Parnell, command.

[MFS62]

Ashie62 wrote: Command Parnell, command.

OK, I will.
Parnell, I command you to throw pitches on the black with your best stuff, young trooper.

Later

[ashie62]

BOOKS>>>>>

[Frayed Knot]

It would be really Wise not to walk Dewayne with the big boys coming up.



oe: or have him fly out deep to LF, I'm OK either way.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Yoy. Thanks be.

[Guest themetfairy]

Whew!

[Guest Edgy DC]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Aaaaand Everett is apparently as sick of sitting through this game as we are. (However much Gary and Keith keep trying to push how "crazy" it's been-- presumably to push the Reds-'86 game parallels?-- it's been a mucky, ugly grind, like most Florida specials.)

Smwell put. But if it's a grinder, I'll take a grinder victory over the alternative.

Some good and some bad from Wrightsman tonight, huh? Failed to plate a guy with less than two outs twice, threw away a ball at third, but had two RBI hits of the type I'll never turn down.

In the end, Florida just out-uglied us.

[Frayed Knot]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: G: "Between speed and Moneyball, sir... give me speed every time." K: "I never saw Moneyball force any throwing errors, or make any pitchers nervous. Moneyball never won a championship, like we did under Whitey in '82." G: "Speed sure did make that ground ball hop over Sanchez' glove there, Keith." K: "Speed is EVERYTHING, Gar. Moneyball never caused a balk, or made a good knockwurst, or led a successful World War." G: "Sure didn't. 1-0 count to Wright here."

As if 'Moneyball' ever dismissed speed as an asset.

[Ceetar]

Frayed Knot wrote: G: "Between speed and Moneyball, sir... give me speed every time." K: "I never saw Moneyball force any throwing errors, or make any pitchers nervous. Moneyball never won a championship, like we did under Whitey in '82." G: "Speed sure did make that ground ball hop over Sanchez' glove there, Keith." K: "Speed is EVERYTHING, Gar. Moneyball never caused a balk, or made a good knockwurst, or led a successful World War." G: "Sure didn't. 1-0 count to Wright here." As if 'Moneyball' ever dismissed speed as an asset.

more the Stolen Base than speed.

[Guest Edgy DC]

By the way, not to be overlooked, Carlos Beltran made his Mets debut in left tonight, swappping positions with Jason Pridie with one out in the ninth and Logan Morrison coming up. Anybody able to enlgihten me about what that was all about?

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: By the way, not to be overlooked, Carlos Beltran made his Mets debut in left tonight, swappping positions with Jason Pridie with one out in the ninth and Logan Morrison coming up. Anybody able to enlgihten me about what that was all about?

wait, he did?

so says gameday. That's odd. is it an error? I thought it was Pridie out there making that last catch, but i wasn't paying that close a ttention to who it was, and Gary said it was Pridie, so he clearly didn't know..

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

It was Pridie. GameDay's crackish.

[Ceetar]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: It was Pridie. GameDay's crackish.

it also gave me a "7 strikeouts" badge for Pelfrey when he struck out _batting_ earlier in the game.

[Guest Edgy DC]

No wonder I didn't hear anything on the audiofeed. Strange.

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: No wonder I didn't hear anything on the audiofeed. Strange.

gameday also says it happened after the first out in the 9th.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Maybe it was paying tribute to the 7/22/86 Ray Knightgame with the Reds where Mookie Wilson had to switch back and forth from left to right to allow McRosco to play on the weak side.

[Frayed Knot]

Ceetar wrote: G: "Between speed and Moneyball, sir... give me speed every time." K: "I never saw Moneyball force any throwing errors, or make any pitchers nervous. Moneyball never won a championship, like we did under Whitey in '82." G: "Speed sure did make that ground ball hop over Sanchez' glove there, Keith." K: "Speed is EVERYTHING, Gar. Moneyball never caused a balk, or made a good knockwurst, or led a successful World War." G: "Sure didn't. 1-0 count to Wright here." As if 'Moneyball' ever dismissed speed as an asset. more the Stolen Base than speed.

More the concept that speedy dudes with little power, bad OBAs, and low rates of stolen base success were valuable commodities to treasure and put at the top of the order.