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[metirish]

Great work as always Grim , would it be feasible to have information pop up as you move the cursor over the points in the charts?

[batmagadanleadoff]

I eyeballed these charts quickly and unscientifically, looking for individual seasons that combined the most orange beads with the least amount of white space. I was looking for the most often used Mets that were primarily back-ups.

My quick and dirty (and perhaps, inaccurate) winner is Jeremy Reed, 2009. Reed managed (or was managed) to appear in almost every game in 2009, even though he was almost exclusively, a substitute.
Honorable mentions go to:

Eric Valent, 2004
Lenny Harris, 2001
Chico Walker, 1993
Rusty Staub, 1983
Mike Jorgensen, 1981 & 1982.

And the career achievement award for this category goes to Matt Franco.

I was thinking about what MetIrish wrote about having data appear as you hover over a particular bead. If the charts are to be modified to be able to link to a box score, perhaps some "hover data" might be in order so that the user has control over which specific box score he'd be linking to.

Here's another suggestion: being able to link to the player's main page by clicking on his name.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Great ideas, but very difficult to put into place. But as I said earlier, the thought is in my mind, so I may one day decide to take on that challenge.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Progress report:

FIRST UPDATE:



SECOND UPDATE:

[batmagadanleadoff]

Here's another suggestion:

From each player's main page, a link to his Mets "career abacus"

Like this Matt Franco, sort of:



but neater, and with the years listed instead of his name (or in addition to his name).

[Benjamin Grimm]

I like that!

[batmagadanleadoff]

And square Red Cross beads to indicate games spent on the disabled list.



And the "career abacus" could be on the player's main page, instead of on a linked page. And the "string" on which the "beads" are strung could end when the player is traded or released. (and begin when he's acquired). The string need not automatically go from game 1 to game "last" in every player season. Frank Cattalanotto's 2010 string would be relatively short. I suppose that a player could then have several broken and distinct strings in the same season, depending on how often he was shuttled between the majors and the minors. This is probably a lot more work for you though, then simply setting up career abaci based on what you already developed and programmed. But I'm good at delegating.


I'll stop now. If I should.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Weird thing going on with Cede�o's name there.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I know everyone has their own scorecard style, but I'm having some trouble with this one.

For example. Strawberry in the 4th: Does 5 /FL indicate he flied out to the third baseman? And Backman in the 19th S/BG? I guess that means single, then, what? Or does the slash indicate a later event?

I would also use the diamond in the middle to indicate the bases advanced, then blacken the thing if/when that runner scores.

I'm also wondering if there's a reason the results are packed into the upper-left quadrants

[Benjamin Grimm]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I know everyone has their own scorecard style, but I'm having some trouble with this one. For example. Strawberry in the 4th: Does 5 /FL indicate he flied out to the third baseman? And Backman in the 19th S/BG? I guess that means single, then, what? Or does the slash indicate a later event? I would also use the diamond in the middle to indicate the bases advanced, then blacken the thing if/when that runner scores. I'm also wondering if there's a reason the results are packed into the upper-left quadrants

Still a work in progress. I've been focusing on the overall layout. I'll soon be turning my attention to the things you mentioned: I'll be making the event descriptions less obscure, and I'll be using the central diamond. Stay tuned!

[Edgy MD]

Yeah, I guess improvements are going to come and I'm kinda scared to give feedback because the initiative is so cool and is something I'd love to do if I could make the world go away.

But yeah, my feedback would be to break the box into four or nine quadrants ("nondrants"?) so you can use the diamond to track the progress around the bases gloriously. But I also get that this isn't necessarily generated from the sort of database that can give you all the data you need.

[metirish]

Grim , it that your score card?

[Benjamin Grimm]

Edgy DC wrote: But I also get that this isn't necessarily generated from the sort of data that can give you all the data you need.

Maybe not, but I think I'm going to be able to get surprisingly close.

[Benjamin Grimm]

metirish wrote: Grim , it that your score card?

Yes, in a way. It's been automatically generated by code running on the UMDB server. I can post a scorecard (imperfect as it currently is) for every regular season game from 1962 through 2010. I'm going to refine the look (as mentioned above, it's not yet where I want it to be), get the postseason games in there too, and then make the nearly 8000 scorecards available to the world.

I'm even thinking of making the background color vary; the longer ago that the game was played the more yellowed it would be.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Don't for a second think I'm not staggered by how awesome this is. I can barely conceive the possibility.

If you are successful at this, you should sell the technology to MLB.com and go retire on a beach somewhere.

[Edgy MD]

I went to check on what Backman's S/BG in the 11th was. And just as I clicked I realized, duh, this is Backman. In a tie game in extra innings, of course he's going to come up there and try to bunt his way on.

Single/Bunt Grounder.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Henry Blanco headed to the D'Backs. He and Takahashi now officially in the One-Year Wonders division of Metsdom.

I read your one year wonder piece, which you linked (above) in the ex-Mets thread, and came across this observation you made nine months ago about 2009 OYW Jeremy Reed:

Reed played in 126 games in �09 but started in only 24 of them, or about 19%. From what I can tell, no Met who has ever played in that many games in a season has been a starter so rarely

That's what I was talking about:

I eyeballed [Grimm's] charts quickly and unscientifically, looking for individual seasons that combined the most orange beads with the least amount of white space. I was looking for the most often used Mets that were primarily back-ups. My quick and dirty (and perhaps, inaccurate) winner is Jeremy Reed, 2009. Reed managed (or was managed) to appear in almost every game in 2009, even though he was almost exclusively, a substitute. Honorable mentions go to:

Did you check with any databases before writing that, or were you going by memory? Because those pictures with the beads obviously didn't exist nine months ago.

[Edgy MD]

As we all use different shorthand for scoring, I think it would be cool if this presentation deferred to Bill Shannon's standards.

[G-Fafif]

Henry Blanco headed to the D'Backs. He and Takahashi now officially in the One-Year Wonders division of Metsdom. I read your one year wonder piece, which you linked (above) in the ex-Mets thread, and came across this observation you made nine months ago about 2009 OYW Jeremy Reed: Reed played in 126 games in �09 but started in only 24 of them, or about 19%. From what I can tell, no Met who has ever played in that many games in a season has been a starter so rarely That's what I was talking about: I eyeballed [Grimm's] charts quickly and unscientifically, looking for individual seasons that combined the most orange beads with the least amount of white space. I was looking for the most often used Mets that were primarily back-ups. My quick and dirty (and perhaps, inaccurate) winner is Jeremy Reed, 2009. Reed managed (or was managed) to appear in almost every game in 2009, even though he was almost exclusively, a substitute. Honorable mentions go to: Did you check with any databases before writing that, or were you going by memory? Because those pictures with the beads obviously didn't exist nine months ago.

As the '09 season wound down, I noticed Reed among the leaders in the games played category and it struck me as odd since he didn't seem to start very often. So I did a little digging on Baseball Reference considering (seeking out the pinch-hitting and defensive replacement suspects) and came to the aforementioned conclusion.

The beads are/will be a great asset.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Edgy DC wrote: As we all use different shorthand for scoring, I think it would be cool if this presentation deferred to Bill Shannon's standards.

Are those standards available online anywhere?

[Benjamin Grimm]

Latest update:

[Edgy MD]

Hubba Bubba!

[soupcan]

Mitchell didn't pinch hit for Straw right? He was a defensive replacement in the previous inning. Am I misremembering?

[Benjamin Grimm]

He was a pinch-hitter for the pitcher. I'm not listing the pitchers who never had a plate appearance for the sake of space, but I may reconsider that if it's confusing, and apparently it is. (Maybe I can print them in a smaller font.)

[soupcan]

Maybe you shoud, but now that you say it I see that Mazzilli was the defensive replacement and in fact Mitchell did bat in the 'new' pitcher's spot.

[Edgy MD]

Good catch.

I was taught to not fill the diamond in if the run was unearned. Anybody else use that method?

[soupcan]

Edgy DC wrote: Good catch. I was taught to not fill the diamond in if the run was unearned. Anybody else use that method?

Not me, but I like it.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

I'm going to steal that, I think.

Grimm, this is gorgeous.

[batmagadanleadoff]

This project might actually persuade me to finally learn how to score a game.

Neat stuff.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

soupcan wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Good catch. I was taught to not fill the diamond in if the run was unearned. Anybody else use that method? Not me, but I like it.

Wow, blew my mind there.