Making a Pitch

[Guest Edgy DC]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Seattle reportedly is interested in acquiring a catcher in any potential deal.

"Omir, we sure appreciate everything you done for the organization."

[Frayed Knot]

I don't really think this article says a whole helluva lot other than Lee might be traded which we all kind of already know.

"a source with knowledge of the team's thinking" -- I hate that phrase even as it seems to be used more often these days. This is barely more credible than me saying, 'yeah, that sounds like something the Mets would think about'


"Two years ago, when the Mets agreed to trade for Johan Santana, another star lefty headed for a major contract, they required the opportunity to negotiate an extension. That was right before spring training in 2008, and Santana was signed for that season." -- actually it was Santana who insisted of negotiating a deal as he was a rare pre-FA who had a no-trade clause and therefore could scuttle the whole thing.


-- and the rest just speculates on who might or might not be part of a deal; again, something I could have done with as much accuracy.
And that 6/180 deal it would take to retain him is numbers pulled out of the air or agent speak (or both). 6 years for a pitcher turning 33?

[Benjamin Grimm]

The Mets also would be unlikely to trade either Ike Davis, Jenrry Mejia or Jonathon Niese in a deal for Lee, the source said. If they hold fast to that, then Mejia isn't auditioning for teams as he heads to Double-A Binghamton to be a starting pitcher.

That's good news. I wouldn't think that they'd trade Davis, but Mejia is probably the one I'd be most worried that they might trade.

Without those three in a deal, the Mets potentially could offer Seattle a package built around such prospects as Ruben Tejada, Fernando Martinez, 18-year-old shortstop Wilmer Flores, 20-year-old righty Jeurys Familia, and Triple-A catcher Josh Thole.

I doubt they'd trade all five of those players. It would be one thing if Lee came with the extension (and if he was about three years younger) but for a two-month rental that seems very steep to me.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Edgy DC wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: Seattle reportedly is interested in acquiring a catcher in any potential deal. "Omir, we sure appreciate everything you done for the organization."

Lightning-generation powers sold separately

[Benjamin Grimm]

Frayed Knot wrote: And that 6/180 deal it would take to retain him is numbers pulled out of the air or agent speak (or both). 6 years for a pitcher turning 33?

(The numbers in the article were actually $150 million over six, which is $25 million per year.) I was thinking the same thing. It's probably what his agent wants. In a real seller's market, a 32-year-old pitcher might be able to get that, but I'd think that's the absolute ceiling. My guess would be more like $100 million over five, but I'm probably no better guessing at this stuff than anyone else is.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I doubt they'd trade all five of those players. It would be one thing if Lee came with the extension (and if he was about three years younger) but for a two-month rental that seems very steep to me.

A fair point, only these days, 2 draft picks' worth of compensation are a pretty significant attached rebate. Essentially, you're swapping major-league ready-ish talent for the turbo boost and talented players to be named later*.


*Y'know... assuming you offer the guy arbitration, not having made any odd-as-fuck, shoot-yourself-in-the-foot promises not to.

[Zvon]

Edgy DC wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: Seattle reportedly is interested in acquiring a catcher in any potential deal. "Omir, we sure appreciate everything you done for the organization."

I wish that would be the catcher.
Reading this I got a feeling about Thole.

Just had an onion bagel though.
It might just be gas.

No Tejada.
No Familia.

Goes w/o saying no Davis, no Mejia, no Niese.
I wanna say maybe Niese, but not if it's gonna stay a rental deal, and it should.

I've had enough of getting pitchers whose prime times are so soon to be behind em.
*OW!
Who threw that pretzel?

[Benjamin Grimm]

None of Zvon's poems rhyme.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Oh, I agree. We've got a team, let's play some baseball.

Save the money for re-signing Reyes and Wright.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

It's entirely possible that the Cubs might take Ollie for this guy straight up now, isn't it?

(Do yourself a favor and click through to the video. It's exquisite.)

[Zvon]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: None of Zvon's poems rhyme.

oh snap.
thats the biggest laugh I've had here in a long time.
I can see you shrugging your shoulders while saying that.

[Zvon]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: It's entirely possible that the Cubs might take Ollie for this guy straight up now, isn't it? (Do yourself a favor and click through to the video. It's exquisite.)

Ive said it before, some day he's gonna kill someone.
On the field or off, I can't say.
I will say that if it happens while he's at work he will use a bat. He belongs in a cage.

I say we grab him and let him run free til the seasons over and put the bat rack in a cage.