Mets Hall of Fame: Stengel Group

[Guest Edgy DC]

As in the other poll, there are no easy choices. We've whittled our list of 64 down to 16 names. In asking you to vote for four of these eight, I'm in no way saying that you are declaring the next four "unworthy," only that you see the four you pick as higher priorities to consider for 2010.

I sorted this by seed, but interesting how so many of these 1986 affiliates ended up in this group.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Cashen, Darryl, Doc, and Bobby V.

I don't think Leiter belongs, and Matlack is a fringe candidate. HoJo is also kind of fringey, and Darling can wait; give him time to bolster his credentials by extending his broadcasting tenure.

Cashen, like Jane Jarvis, is getting on in years. (To say the least.) Darryl and Doc are currently in good graces with the Mets, that may not continue to be the case. I kind of wavered on Bobby Valentine because there's that slim chance that his Mets history may not yet be complete.

[metirish]

Cashen, Darryl, Doc, and Bobby V.

Without looking at Grims post I voted for these guys.....

[TransMonk]

I dittoed Grimm.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I went for HoJo over Bobby V. I surprised myself, but there you have it.

[Guest themetfairy]

I went for Darling, Gooden, Strawberry and Valentine.

I read the options too fast and should have included Cashen instead of Darling. My bad.

[Guest Edgy DC]

You can change your vote.

[Guest themetfairy]

You can change your vote.[/quote:37gl24k1]

I didn't realize that.

Done

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

GET OUT OF MY MIND, BEEG!

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

I went for HoJo over Bobby V. I surprised myself, but there you have it.[/quote:32cxnlbr]

Me too, but I wouldn't complain if Bobby V went in. A worthy candidate.

[G-Fafif]

If the HOF has proceeded apace after '97 when Keith was inducted, HoJo would have been in earlier this decade, maybe even while Bobby V was still managing. Yet I couldn't pass over Bobby now, so one more year for HoJo to wait. He can chill with Fonzie.

Doc, Darryl and Cashen were the others.

[Guest Vince Coleman Firecracker]

Hey, guys! I saw you were voting for the Mets' Hall of Fame! How's the vote go....



...ing?



Hmmph.

[ashie62]

Al Leiter..I cannot stand you..He can take his Springsteen and shove it up his ass..NJ Shore Jackazz

Al, it isn't philanthropy when you have to be pictured and have all know you put up some money for your deeds

I'd rather see you give 10 bucks to a drunk in the park

So there

[ashie62]

Gooden,Hojo,Straw,Booby V

[Guest Vince Coleman Firecracker]

Oh, and I voted for Darling. I can be convinced this was a wrong choice, but he was my first favorite player. And he ain't a terrible broadcaster, either.

[TransMonk]

Al should be happy he got into the sweet 16.

[ashie62]

Al should be happy he got into the sweet 16.[/quote:3u90x8kj]


Amen

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

Gooden, Cashen, Strawberry, & HoJo

[Theoldmole]

I left Doc off, which is probably crazy. Of course he should go in, but not next. Let him do a little more penance.

[ashie62]

I left Doc off, which is probably crazy. Of course he should go in, but not next. Let him do a little more penance.[/quote:1hqjblm3]

I left Doc off. In some ways he was a flash in the pan at Shea all of his own doing..

and now he's a graffitti artrist, the noive...Jeff.."hide the china" Fred

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Leaving aside the fact that he may have had the greatest pitching season in Met history, Seaver INCLUDED (and one of the top 5 or so pitching seasons in baseball history), 300-plus starts over 10.5 years of service-- getting Cy Young votes in 5 of them-- is hardly a flash in the pan.

[Guest Edgy DC]

To the extent that he was a flash in the pan, he was a thermonuclear flash.

[Guest Edgy DC]

To the extent that he isn't, he's second all-time in wins and striekouts; third in innings, complete games, and starts; fourth in starts.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Mike Vail was a flash in the pan.

Doc Gooden was a Rookie of the Year, a Cy Young, and a key part of a World Championship and an additional division title.

[G-Fafif]

Four-time All-Star, too.

Here's what came after his flashy '84 and '85:

17-6
15-7
18-9
9-4
19-7
13-7
10-13
12-15
3-4

Even if he was never quite Doc the way we choose to remember him, Dwight was pretty darn good for an awfully long time.

[Guest Vince Coleman Firecracker]

Real Met HoF results were pretty close to ours. Sorry, Bobby V.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Davey go down in an earlier group-of-death?

[Guest Edgy DC]

No, Davey was in the other half of the bracket, reaching the finals through the Payson group.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Payson group.