Mets Hall of Fame: Payson Group

[Guest Edgy DC]

Here's where it gets hard. We've whittled our list of 64 down to 16 names. In asking you to vote for four of these eight, I'm in no way saying that you are declaring the next four unworthy, only that you see the four pick as higher priorities to consider for this year.

[Benjamin Grimm]

We're seeing radio buttons, not checkboxes.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Jarvis, Johnson, Piazza, Walker.

I left out Ehrhardt and Orosco because I don't think they belong.

Jarvis got in ahead of Fonzie and Franco because of her advance age.

Walker, although he's dead at the present time, is long overdue.

[metirish]

Franco , Johnson, Piazza, Walker

[Guest Edgy DC]

All worthy, I went for the four oldest livng candidates here.

[Guest themetfairy]

Erhardt, Johnson and Jarvis.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Jarvis, Johnson, Piazza, Walker

Age (and significance) before beauty (and my second-favorite of all time-- sorry, Fonzie).

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Walker, Piazza, Davey and Franco -- but I am willing to be overruled on the sign man and organ lady.

[Guest Vince Coleman Firecracker]

I just couldn't not vote for Fonzie. Someone else agreed with me. Where does he rank on the all-time list of Mets position players? Fifth? Sixth, maybe?

I think a lot of us are coming at this from entirely different angles. Which is, of course, cool.

[G-Fafif]

Wanted to vote for Fonzie, but Walker and Jarvis should have already been in, so he can wait a year if we are to assume the Mets don't shutter their HOF to make more space for the Verizon Studio. Besides, he's going to make the club in ST (a man can hold onto childlike dreams).

Mike and Davey, also.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I definitely agree that Fonzie belongs. I just don't think he should be next in line.

[ashie62]

I definitely agree that Fonzie belongs. I just don't think he should be next in line.[/quote:xx07z9ky]


Correct! I'm nailing Mrs. Cunningham first

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

Piazza, Johnson, Walker, & Alfonzo

[Theoldmole]

I can't believe that Karl Ehrhart has more votes than Fonzie.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I can't believe he's even in the discussion.

It would be like enshrining the San Diego Chicken in Cooperstown.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Well, more like enshrining the Ted Giannoulas in the San Diego Padres Hall of Fame, which I'd certainly support.

And considering the mileage they get out of his costume, I have no issues with Ted Giannoulas getting into Cooperstown as well.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I think Ehrhart deserves a display in the museum, but not a bust in the Hall.

And I feel the same way about the Chicken.

[Guest Swan Swan H]

When I think of the term 'Hall of Fame' in this context I think of the separation that is found in the Hall of Fame and Baseball Museum in Cooperstown. To me Ehrhardt and Jarvis, et al., should certainly be represented in any museum of Metorabilia and history, but the HOF is for the executives and field personnel of the leagues and teams.

The Baseball HOF even has separate wings for writers and broadcasters, who are appropriately recognized as the peripheral yet critical components of the game that they are. They are recognized, but recognized separately.

oe: Grimm, once again, gets there first and much more succinctly.

[Guest Edgy DC]

When I think of the term 'Hall of Fame' in this context I think of the separation that is found in the Hall of Fame and Baseball Museum in Cooperstown. To me Ehrhardt and Jarvis, et al., should certainly be represented in any museum of Metorabilia and history, but the HOF is for the executives and field personnel of the leagues and teams.

The Baseball HOF even has separate wings for writers and broadcasters, who are appropriately recognized as the peripheral yet critical components of the game that they are. They are recognized, but recognized separately.

oe: Grimm, once again, gets there first and much more succinctly.[/quote:3ne9a3gf]

Well, seperation is fine, but I'd hesitate to diminish their standing. As for the HoF being for executives and field personnel, I'd say it was never that, or at least almost never. Year Four inductees were a trio of broadcasters, and Year Three included Bill Shea.

I think that thinking outside the box here is exciting and critical to defining a team historically beyond being just another team in a different ballpark wearing different colors. It may be disputable to suggest that Jane Jarvis and Karl Ehrhardt defined Mets culture more than most players, but I don't think it's crazy, so that's why they're on the ballot.