IGT 5/11, Braves at Mets

[metirish]

Carlin - " Bob could Santana have stayed in?"

Bob - " Well it's one of those debatable things , I don't know , um it's the managers call , I know as a pitcher I would want to stay in".....

Not at all liking Carlin and Ojeda.

[Frayed Knot]

I can justify taking Santana out (lots of pitches, not his sharpest game from the beginning) and even, though to a lesser extent, leaving Feliciano in to face Diaz (good success against even if a small sample).
Where I think Jerry worked his way into a problem was pulling Parnell after just 1 out and a broken bat hit. Yeah McCann's their best hitter w/Chipper out, but if Pedro doesn't get him there you wind up in a position with little margin for error.

Of all the chances to take that inning I would have opted for Parnell v McCann.

[Guest OlerudOwned]

="Frayed Knot"]I can justify taking Santana out (lots of pitches, not his sharpest game from the beginning) and even, though to a lesser extent, leaving Feliciano in to face Diaz (good success against even if a small sample). Where I think Jerry worked his way into a problem was pulling Parnell after just 1 out and a broken bat hit. Yeah McCann's their best hitter w/Chipper out, but if Pedro doesn't get him there you wind up in a position with little margin for error. Of all the chances to take that inning I would have opted for Parnell v McCann.

It certainly wasn't a vote of cahnfidence for Bobby, and I think he's pitched well enough this season to deserve one. It's one thing to play the matchups. However, the only way you're going to find out if you can trust a young dude like Parnell as a primetime relief pitcher is if you give him the chances to face lefties. If it was a string of lefties coming up, it's more defensible, but in the case the on-deck batter was someone who was basically put on this earth to hit left-handed pitching.

[Frayed Knot]

Of course, managerial/bullpen issues aside, the real problem tonight was getting out-hit, out-pitched, and, especially, out-fielded.

We hit a handful of at'em balls (Reyes in particular) and los Bravos certainly had their share of dinky hits but it's not like we deserved a 'W' out of it even though it was certainly possible 3/4 of the way into the game.

[Guest gerrard00]

Fman99 wrote: ="Swan Swan H"]Stop doing the wave. Seriously. Take that shit to a soccer game where it belongs.

One of the down sides of the new ballpark is that the wave can continue going after it's done a lap since there's no gap in the stands. I was nearly apoplectic when the crowd kept doing the idiot "who cares about the game wave" during pivotal at bats. I defiantly stuck to my seat, but no one noticed my quiet protest.

[soupcan]

I agree with Edgy about Reyes making the error because he thought the groundball would hit the bag.

If everybody knew (me included - and if I knew then you can believe it was pretty fucking obvious) Feliciano should not pitch to Diaz then why the hell would Jerry let him? Amaz-azing.

The wave: Hate it, hate it, hate it. There is however a solution: The Anti-Wave. Unfortunately the Carrier Dome in Syracuse is very conducive to waves. We did figure out a way to squash them though. When a wave has gained momentum and is coming to your section, you stand up and try to get as many wave-haters as you can to stand with you before the wave hits your section. When it does come to your section- you all sit down. It throws off the timing of the next section and the whole thing then dissipates.

The only problem with the solution is that you look as much like an idiot as the wave people do. Just keep telling yourself that its for the greater good.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Complaining about people doing the wave is actually lamer than doing the wave itself.

There. I said it.

My date with LWFS was a lot of fun even if the Mets kinda made us blue. Funny guy. Some bim-bettes in big sunglasses, Cubs & White Sox jerseys (one with a Cub jersey and Braves hat) sat a few rows in front of us.

LWFS: "Chicago pizza isn't pizza! It's casserole!"

Shot my ballpark mayo all over my box frites, if you know what I mean.

As I recall it we spent the whole game wondering WTF Jerry was up to. Obviously not a crisp effort, and I'm 0-2 in the new park.

Blue Smoke ribs = Good.

[soupcan]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Complaining about people doing the wave is actually lamer than doing the wave itself. There. I said it.

Translation: JCL does the wave.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I'm actually the guy who gets up in the aisle and distracts you to start the wave.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]Complaining about people doing the wave is actually lamer than doing the wave itself. There. I said it.

"To everything, there is a season" and whatnot; I have no problem with it as a between-innings/blowout distraction (or, say, while you're making a midgame Frite run). Otherwise-- say, during a 2-2 game in the late innings-- it kinda messes up my game riddims, ya nuh see it?

] My date with LWFS was a lot of fun even if the Mets kinda made us blue. Funny guy. Some bim-bettes in big sunglasses, Cubs & White Sox jerseys (one with a Cub jersey and Braves hat) sat a few rows in front of us.

The funny thing? They got upset about this-- like, girls-in-Jeter-jerseys-brand thin-skinned-- and ended up leaving just after the Braves went up 5-1 (and just after I maligned the El train and Governor Dondi).

] As I recall it we spent the whole game wondering WTF Jerry was up to.

From the beginning, really. What gets me about him (as evidenced last night) isn't really rooted in individual moves -- although, yes, the bunting and the bullpen management rankle-- so much as it is no sort of consistency to his strategic aims. Even if you grant him the premise that his strategic pronouncements/aims are on-point... he generally goes on to contradict himself in-game. E.G.-- He's claimed-- and reiterated in the postgamer-- that he aims to put the best defense (especially OF) possible behind Johan... and then benches Church for Reed, rather than Murphy. He brings in Feliciano for the lefty-lefty matchup... then leaves him in for Diaz, et. al.-- if you're going to go down a strategic road, follow it to its logical endpoint, you know? This is death by half-measure.

But the ribs are indeed delightful.

[nymr83]

]I defiantly stuck to my seat, but no one noticed my quiet protest.

i generally yell "fuck the wave!" so my protest is neither quiet nor unnoticed.