The All-Purpose Gotham Thread

[Guest Mark Healey]

Al Cohn wants to fix stuff

http://www.gothambaseball.com/news/1178717394.php

Does he?

(P.S. Al loves feedback, good or bad or otherwise, so feel free to fire waway)

[metirish]

I think Al Cohn is being unfair to Green,yes his errors have looked glaring on the tele,I would have signed up for this from Green before the season started,would he be any better with the glove at first?.

Delgado missed one week of spring training IIRC,could be wrong on that.

[soupcan]

Ditto to what irish said.

Put Green at first and sit Delgado? In the first week of May?

Of course because the Mets are only tied for first place. Makes pefect sense.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I'd consider juggling their lineup slots for a while: let Green hit higher in the lineup and Delgado lower, but benching Delgado doesn't make any sense to me at all.

[Guest Mark Healey]

http://www.gothambaseball.com/news/1179421564.php

That's my take on the Milledge situation...

[Guest martin]

couple typos, suberb and sympton, "won" instead of own. performnace.

the mets have white fans i guess, and they feel like they should say something. but i wonder if anyone would care if they said nothing. i can't imagine many people would mind.

[Vic Sage]

Agreed.

But it's "superb", not "suberb".

[Guest Edgy DC]

Is it true, does anybody recall, that the Mets received no journalistic criticism when they re-signed Mota?

[Guest martin]

right. thats why i pointed it out. its not sympton or performnace either.

[metirish]

Mark,are you suggesting that the various news papers in town used older pictures of Milledge because with his braids it made him look "gangsta",I'm a bit confused as to what him wearing braids has got to do with anything,did he cut them because he didn't want to look "gangsta",perhaps the Mets urged him to do so?....

I'm fairly certain that Wally at Newsday hammered the mets for signing Mota.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I imagine that was the most readily available photo of Milledge representing himself as a rap figure.

[Guest Rotblatt]

Edgy DC wrote: Is it true, does anybody recall, that the Mets received no journalistic criticism when they re-signed Mota?

I don't remember reading any from the daily rags, and I was kind of looking for it . . . But I'm not positive.

[Guest Mark Healey]

Thnaks for the edit, guys, errors fixed. In my haste to get it up I must have missed those.

As for the Mota stuff, the Daily News didn't raise any objections when Mota was signed, and Matthews always seems to be criticizing the Mets for something, so maybe I missed that.

[Guest Mark Healey]

Edgy DC wrote: I imagine that was the most readily available photo of Milledge representing himself as a rap figure.

Seems dicey to me to use an old photo.

[Guest Mark Healey]

metirish wrote: Mark,are you suggesting that the various news papers in town used older pictures of Milledge because with his braids it made him look "gangsta",I'm a bit confused as to what him wearing braids has got to do with anything,did he cut them because he didn't want to look "gangsta",perhaps the Mets urged him to do so.

Yeah, I am. Is there another reason I'm not aware of?

[Guest Edgy DC]

Well, another reason would be that it was the most readily available photo of Milledge representing himself as a rap figure. It's a publicity shot for the recordings, right?

It's not like there aren't dozens of available file photos of Milledge with braids in a baseball uniform.

[Guest Mark Healey]

It's editorializing, IMO.

Just another example of some of the media in this town taking every opportunity to pile on the Mets.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I understand it's your opinion. I'm trying to see if the facts you base your opinion on hold up. There is another credible possible reason. And even as I'm discussing it, you're claiming that you're unaware of one.

As for editorializing, most of what you're criticizing is editorial content --- rather than news --- isn't it?

I mostly agree with you. But I wouldn't expect the NYC tabloids to make any other choices. Demonizing is a big part of what they do.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

I don't think it has anything to do with the Mets. If there was a budding rapper in the Yankees org who used the word "Ho" they'd be all over him too, just as unfairly. The issue here which I think you get to amid too much other stuff is the surpression of free expression from the media, your employer and your city councilman.

[metirish]

Mark Healey wrote: ="metirish"]Mark,are you suggesting that the various news papers in town used older pictures of Milledge because with his braids it made him look "gangsta",I'm a bit confused as to what him wearing braids has got to do with anything,did he cut them because he didn't want to look "gangsta",perhaps the Mets urged him to do so. Yeah, I am. Is there another reason I'm not aware of?

So in your mind there is a media(print) conspiracy against Milledge?,rather naive IMO.

[Guest Mark Healey]

Edgy DC wrote: I understand it's your opinion. I'm trying to see if the facts you base your opinion on hold up. There is another credible possible reason. And even as I'm discussing it, you're claiming that you're unaware of one. As for editorializing, most of what you're criticizing is editorial content --- rather than news --- isn't it? I mostly agree with you. But I wouldn't expect the NYC tabloids to make any other choices. Demonizing is a big part of what they do.

I guess I'm too jaded to think that there might be another reason..I have our photogs take tons of pics at each individual shoot, so for the DN, NYP or Newsday to claim that they didn't have any available photos of him would seem lame to me.

[Guest Mark Healey]

="metirish"] ="Mark Healey"] ="metirish"]Mark,are you suggesting that the various news papers in town used older pictures of Milledge because with his braids it made him look "gangsta",I'm a bit confused as to what him wearing braids has got to do with anything,did he cut them because he didn't want to look "gangsta",perhaps the Mets urged him to do so. Yeah, I am. Is there another reason I'm not aware of? So in your mind there is a media(print) conspiracy against Milledge?,rather naive IMO.

There's no conspiracy, but it sure appears as if there is.

[Guest martin]

i dont get it, the story is about milledge's rap business, so the photos used are him as a rapper. makes sense. maybe i am missing something.

[Guest Mark Healey]

Enough about L Millz...more about the Gotham Cup!

http://www.gothambaseball.com/news/1179545208.php

Come one, Come All....to Central Park on Sat and Sunday...

I would love to meet any and all who come, and hand you a mag or two!

[Guest Edgy DC]

Mark Healey wrote: ...so for the DN, NYP or Newsday to claim that they didn't have any available photos of him would seem lame to me.

That's not what I said.

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