Guest Yancy Street Gang Guests Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 I just pulled this from the UMDB. If anyone can spot any omissions, please let me know.Thanks!Rogers Hornsby St. Louis Cardinals1925 - 1926Rogers Hornsby New York Giants1927Rogers Hornsby Boston Braves1928Rogers Hornsby Chicago Cubs1930 - 1932Rogers Hornsby St. Louis Browns1933 - 1937Casey Stengel Brooklyn Dodgers1934 - 1936Casey Stengel Boston Braves1938 - 1943Casey Stengel New York Yankees1949 - 1960Phil Cavarretta Chicago Cubs1951 - 1953Rogers Hornsby Cincinnati Reds1952 - 1953Rogers Hornsby St. Louis Browns1952Casey Stengel New York Mets1962 - 1965Gil Hodges Washington Senators1963 - 1967Yogi Berra New York Yankees1964Dick Sisler Cincinnati Reds1964 - 1965Wes Westrum New York Mets1965 - 1967Don Heffner Cincinnati Reds1966Salty Parker New York Mets1967Gil Hodges New York Mets1968 - 1971Don Zimmer San Diego Padres1972 - 1973Yogi Berra New York Mets1972 - 1975Whitey Herzog Texas Rangers1973Jim Marshall Chicago Cubs1974 - 1976Whitey Herzog California Angels1974Roy McMillan New York Mets1975Whitey Herzog Kansas City Royals1975 - 1979Joe Frazier New York Mets1976 - 1977Don Zimmer Boston Red Sox1976 - 1980Joe Torre New York Mets1977 - 1981Jeff Torborg Cleveland Indians1977 - 1979Ken Boyer St. Louis Cardinals1978 - 1980George Bamberger Milwaukee Brewers1978 - 1980Roger Craig San Diego Padres1978 - 1979Jim Fregosi California Angels1978 - 1981Jim Marshall Oakland Athletics1979Dallas Green Philadelphia Phillies1979 - 1981Whitey Herzog St. Louis Cardinals1980 - 1990Jim Frey Kansas City Royals1980 - 1981Don Zimmer Texas Rangers1981 - 1982Frank Howard San Diego Padres1981Joe Torre Atlanta Braves1982 - 1984George Bamberger New York Mets1982 - 1983Frank Howard New York Mets1983Jim Frey Chicago Cubs1984 - 1986Chuck Cottier Seattle Mariners1984 - 1986Yogi Berra New York Yankees1984 - 1985Davey Johnson New York Mets1984 - 1990Bobby Valentine Texas Rangers1985 - 1992George Bamberger Milwaukee Brewers1985 - 1986Roger Craig San Francisco Giants1985 - 1992Jim Fregosi Chicago White Sox1986 - 1988Larry Bowa San Diego Padres1987 - 1988Don Zimmer Chicago Cubs1988 - 1991Cookie Rojas California Angels1988Dallas Green New York Yankees1989Jeff Torborg Chicago White Sox1989 - 1991Art Howe Houston Astros1989 - 1993Bud Harrelson New York Mets1990 - 1991Joe Torre St. Louis Cardinals1990 - 1995Mike Cubbage New York Mets1991Jim Fregosi Philadelphia Phillies1991 - 1996Jeff Torborg New York Mets1992 - 1993Davey Johnson Cincinnati Reds1993 - 1995Don Baylor Colorado Rockies1993 - 1998Dallas Green New York Mets1993 - 1996Mike Jorgensen St. Louis Cardinals1995Bruce Bochy San Diego Padres1995 - 2006Joe Torre New York Yankees1996 - 2006Art Howe Oakland Athletics1996 - 2002Bobby Valentine New York Mets1996 - 2002Ray Knight Cincinnati Reds1996 - 1997Davey Johnson Baltimore Orioles1996 - 1997Davey Johnson Los Angeles Dodgers1999 - 2000Jim Fregosi Toronto Blue Jays1999 - 2000Don Baylor Chicago Cubs2000 - 2002Larry Bowa Philadelphia Phillies2001 - 2004Jeff Torborg Montreal Expos2001Jeff Torborg Florida Marlins2002 - 2003Clint Hurdle Colorado Rockies2002 - 2006Ron Gardenhire Minnesota Twins2002 - 2006Art Howe New York Mets2003 - 2004John Gibbons Toronto Blue Jays2003 - 2006Lee Mazzilli Baltimore Orioles2004 - 2005Al Pedrique Arizona Diamondbacks2004Sam Perlozzo Baltimore Orioles2005 - 2006Willie Randolph New York Mets2005 - 2006
Guest Bret Sabermetric Guests Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 Of course you know you're citing only one managing job for those who had several.OE: actually, even more confusingly, you're citing SOME of some managers' multiple jobs while not citing others.
Guest Johnny Dickshot Guests Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 My suspicion is that list compares favorably to any other team since 62.
Guest Yancy Street Gang Guests Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 Bret Sabermetric wrote:Of course you know you're citing only one managing job for those who had several.OE: actually, even more confusingly, you're citing SOME of some managers' multiple jobs while not citing others.Am I? Who am I missing? I have it sorted chronologically, not by name.
Guest Bret Sabermetric Guests Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 My bad. I saw Davey Johnson's Baltimore and LA jobs back to back and thought you had omitted his Cincinnati run.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 Manny Acta, Jose Oquendo (I think), and Matt Galante managed in the World Baseball Classic.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 Ned Yost, Brewers' skipper was a Met minor leaguer.Later
Guest OlerudOwned Guests Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 Lots of Yost. Are the two related?
Guest Yancy Street Gang Guests Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 Edgy DC wrote:What came of this?I didn't follow up on the Eddie Yost thing; my Baseball Encyclopedia doesn't show that he was ever a manager, so I'm not sure what the deal is. I know some sources list guys as managers if they're filling in for a guy who was suspended for a few days. That may have been the deal with Eddie Yost. I did double-check the Hornsby/New York Giant thing, and ended up removing that. (Don't know where it came from, but it didn't look right and it turns out that it wasn't.)I also spotted that I was missing a San Francisco managing gig for Wes Westrum, which I've since added.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 So, Yancy, are you going to add Ned Yost to your list in the first post, or will this thread become the list?http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/Y/ned-yost.shtmlAnd, OO, IIRC they are not related.Later
Guest Yancy Street Gang Guests Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 Ned Yost was never a Met, so I'm not interested in him.
Guest Yancy Street Gang Guests Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 Here's the current list. As I said above, I removed the Rogers Hornsby/N.Y. Giant listing and added Wes Westrum with the Giants. I also added the short stints in Houston and Milwaukee for Salty Parker and Roy McMillan. As best as I can tell, those two were legitimate "interim" gigs in between permanent managers. I don't know about the Eddie Yost thing. I wish there was a better standard regarding who's a manager and who isn't, but it's surprisingly fuzzy. Rogers Hornsby St. Louis Cardinals1925 - 1926Rogers Hornsby Boston Braves1928Rogers Hornsby Chicago Cubs1930 - 1932Rogers Hornsby St. Louis Browns1933 - 1937Casey Stengel Brooklyn Dodgers1934 - 1936Casey Stengel Boston Braves1938 - 1943Casey Stengel New York Yankees1949 - 1960Phil Cavarretta Chicago Cubs1951 - 1953Rogers Hornsby St. Louis Browns1952Rogers Hornsby Cincinnati Reds1952 - 1953Casey Stengel New York Mets1962 - 1965Gil Hodges Washington Senators1963 - 1967Yogi Berra New York Yankees1964Dick Sisler Cincinnati Reds1964 - 1965Wes Westrum New York Mets1965 - 1967Don Heffner Cincinnati Reds1966Salty Parker New York Mets1967Gil Hodges New York Mets1968 - 1971Don Zimmer San Diego Padres1972 - 1973Salty Parker Houston Astros1972Roy McMillan Milwaukee Brewers1972Yogi Berra New York Mets1972 - 1975Whitey Herzog Texas Rangers1973Whitey Herzog California Angels1974Wes Westrum San Francisco Giants1974 - 1975Jim Marshall Chicago Cubs1974 - 1976Roy McMillan New York Mets1975Whitey Herzog Kansas City Royals1975 - 1979Don Zimmer Boston Red Sox1976 - 1980Joe Frazier New York Mets1976 - 1977Joe Torre New York Mets1977 - 1981Jeff Torborg Cleveland Indians1977 - 1979Ken Boyer St. Louis Cardinals1978 - 1980George Bamberger Milwaukee Brewers1978 - 1980Roger Craig San Diego Padres1978 - 1979Jim Fregosi California Angels1978 - 1981Jim Marshall Oakland Athletics1979Dallas Green Philadelphia Phillies1979 - 1981Whitey Herzog St. Louis Cardinals1980 - 1990Jim Frey Kansas City Royals1980 - 1981Frank Howard San Diego Padres1981Don Zimmer Texas Rangers1981 - 1982Joe Torre Atlanta Braves1982 - 1984George Bamberger New York Mets1982 - 1983Frank Howard New York Mets1983Jim Frey Chicago Cubs1984 - 1986Chuck Cottier Seattle Mariners1984 - 1986Yogi Berra New York Yankees1984 - 1985Davey Johnson New York Mets1984 - 1990George Bamberger Milwaukee Brewers1985 - 1986Bobby Valentine Texas Rangers1985 - 1992Roger Craig San Francisco Giants1985 - 1992Jim Fregosi Chicago White Sox1986 - 1988Larry Bowa San Diego Padres1987 - 1988Cookie Rojas California Angels1988Don Zimmer Chicago Cubs1988 - 1991Jeff Torborg Chicago White Sox1989 - 1991Art Howe Houston Astros1989 - 1993Dallas Green New York Yankees1989Bud Harrelson New York Mets1990 - 1991Joe Torre St. Louis Cardinals1990 - 1995Mike Cubbage New York Mets1991Jim Fregosi Philadelphia Phillies1991 - 1996Jeff Torborg New York Mets1992 - 1993Davey Johnson Cincinnati Reds1993 - 1995Don Baylor Colorado Rockies1993 - 1998Dallas Green New York Mets1993 - 1996Mike Jorgensen St. Louis Cardinals1995Bruce Bochy San Diego Padres1995 - 2006Art Howe Oakland Athletics1996 - 2002Ray Knight Cincinnati Reds1996 - 1997Bobby Valentine New York Mets1996 - 2002Davey Johnson Baltimore Orioles1996 - 1997Joe Torre New York Yankees1996 - 2006Jim Fregosi Toronto Blue Jays1999 - 2000Davey Johnson Los Angeles Dodgers1999 - 2000Don Baylor Chicago Cubs2000 - 2002Larry Bowa Philadelphia Phillies2001 - 2004Jeff Torborg Montreal Expos2001Clint Hurdle Colorado Rockies2002 - 2006Ron Gardenhire Minnesota Twins2002 - 2006Jeff Torborg Florida Marlins2002 - 2003Art Howe New York Mets2003 - 2004John Gibbons Toronto Blue Jays2003 - 2006Lee Mazzilli Baltimore Orioles2004 - 2005Al Pedrique Arizona Diamondbacks2004Willie Randolph New York Mets2005 - 2006Sam Perlozzo Baltimore Orioles2005 - 2006
Guest Yancy Street Gang Guests Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 Here's an example of what I'm talking about:Bruce BenedictScroll down to the part where he was the Mets manager in 1999.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 I searched Newspaper archives. Eddie was apparently the interim manager in between Mickey Vernon and Gil Hodges.Shirley Povich, already a legend, reportedGeorge Wagner fired Barnie on the spot for insubordination." Asked to explain, Wagner said, "I asked Barnie to resign and he said, 'no'."Four good Met snippets in that article:1) Jimmy Piersall had worn 37 his whole career before being traded to the Mets, where nobody wore 37 unless his name was Stengel, so he switched to 34.2) "The man on whom Hodges is leaning most heavily for intelligence on the ability and habits of American League players is coach Eddie Yost, who has moved up as the Number One [caps are Shirley's] managerial aide."3) "Gil Hodges consulted only two persons for advice before taking the proffered job as manager of the Senators, Mrs. Hodges and Buzz Bavais [sic], general manager of the Los Angeles Dodgers. 'Do what you think best,' said Mrs. Hodges. 'Take it,' said Bavasi"4) "Not all of New York was cheering for astronaut Gordon Cooper in the ticker-tape parade through lower Manhattan. From a sixth-floor window hung a banner that read, 'Let's go, Mets!'"
Guest Yancy Street Gang Guests Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 Okay, I'm convinced!Thanks for the research!
Theoldmole Old-Timey Member Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 There were also an amazing number of early-day Mets who became coaches -- Johnny Lewis, Galen Cisco, Larry Bearnarth, Al Jackson off the top of my head.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 Well, by saying apparently, it was more inferred from the Povich column. Write to Felicia Yost-Carr and get a real confirmation.
Guest mlbaseballtalk Guests Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 Yancy Street Gang wrote:="Edgy DC"]What came of this?I did double-check the Hornsby/New York Giant thing, and ended up removing that. (Don't know where it came from, but it didn't look right and it turns out that it wasn't.)Re-double check Hornsby and the 27 Giants. McGraw in the 20's took an awfull lot of time off due to various health concerns.B-R, and various Total Baseballs have this as being so, crediting several different guys, mostly Bill Terry or Frank Frisch, as taking the reigns as "interms"Steve
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