New Ongoing 2005 25-Man Roster Thread

[Guest Edgy DC]

Starting Pitchers
Benson	Glavine	Ishii	Martinez	Zambrano
Relief Pitchers
Aybar	Bell	DeJean	Heilman	Hernandez
Relief Pitchers		Catchers		Infielders
Looper	Ring	Castro	Piazza	Anderson
Infielders
Cairo	Matsui	Mientkiewicz	Reyes	Woodward
Infielders	Outfielders
Wright	Beltran	Cameron	Diaz	Floyd

Injured Players:
Starting Pitchers	Relief Pitchers
Trachsel 60-Day

[MFS62]

Edgy, wasn't that Tyler Yates pitching AGAINST the Mets in a recent series?

Later

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Don't let the Ty Factor confuse you: That was Tyler Walker.

[Guest sharpie]

Met Tys: Walker, Wigginton, Yates -- all back of the alphabet guys.

[Theoldmole]

[MFS62]

Sorry, all those guys named Ty look alike. :oops:

Later

[Guest Rotblatt]

So with Piazza, Cairo & Mientkiewicz still banged up, any chance we'll put one of them on the 15-day DL and call someone else up to strengthen our bench?

Dougie hasn't played since June 5, so he could be back in business in just 10 days. Actually, we could even throw him in AAA on a rehab assignment to try and tune him up a bit. Cairo hasn't played since June 5 as well.

Brian Daubach has a 1.017 OPS in 175 ABs so far in AAA, and with our struggles at 1B, I don't see why we wouldn't call him up to help out a bit. At the very least, he's a power lefty off the bench for us--something we don't have now.

Defensively, he must be pretty bad, but we'll need a DH for nine games in about a week, and he'd certainly fit the bill there . . .

[Guest Edgy DC]

Released	Activated
Aybar	Graves

It's kind of sad. With DeJean having come up empty earlier in yesterday's game, Aybar had a chance, if he pitched a clean mopup inning in the ninth, to possibly be retained when Graves was brought in. He spilled the bucket while mopping up, and his Met career is apparently over.

Is it me, or does Graves seem to have a really long neck? In fact, I'm looking at some tint changes in his neckflesh, and I'm going to call bullshit on this photo. Homey's cap isn't all that's been photoshopped. That whole torso belongs to another.

To another!

Starting Pitchers
Benson	Glavine	Ishii	Martinez	Zambrano
Relief Pitchers
Bell	DeJean	Graves	Heilman	Hernandez
Relief Pitchers		Catchers		Infielders
Looper	Ring	Castro	Piazza	Anderson
Infielders
Cairo	Matsui	Mientkiewicz	Reyes	Woodward
Infielders	Outfielders
Wright	Beltran	Cameron	Diaz	Floyd

Injured Players:
Starting Pitchers	Relief Pitchers
Trachsel 60-Day

[Guest Edgy DC]

Disabled	Promoted
Cairo	Daubach

[Guest Edgy DC]

Released	Activated
DeJean	Koo

[Guest Edgy DC]

Disabled	Promoted
Mientkiewicz	Offerman

[MFS62]

]I don't know what the 40-man roster move is that was made in order to activate Jose Offerman, but it's almost certainly a transition of Bartolome Fortunato or Felix Heredia, surgery victims both, from the 15-day to the 40-day disabled list.

I thought I once read thatthere is a limit to the number of players you can have on the 60 day DL at any one time. If so, what is that limit?

Later

[Guest Edgy DC]

I don't know. Obviously, I meant the 60-day there. Currently they only have two guys there.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Demoted	Activated
Diaz	Cairo

I I hadn't updated this in a while, figuring the Mets had stopped transacting. I forgot to not the removal of Miguel Cairo from the diabled list. Although I'd like it if he was abled to throw the ball to first the other night.

Starting Pitchers
Benson	Glavine	Ishii	Martinez	Zambrano
Relief Pitchers
Bell	Graves	Heilman	Hernandez	Koo
Relief Pitchers		Catchers		Infielders
Looper	Ring	Castro	Piazza	Anderson
Infielders
Cairo	Daubach

[Guest Edgy DC]

I'm cueing this up in anticipation of a Mientkeiwicz activation.

The guy has been re-habbing with the Gulf Coast Mets. What's that about? Might as well rehab in the Pony League.

Naturally, he walked three times in his last game. A productive game, but it's hard to ready yourself for the bigs if you don't swing the bat.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Demoted	Activated
Daubach

[Guest Edgy DC]

Demoted	Activated
Ring	Padilla

Looks like we all missed a transaction. Padilla replaces Martinez, and we're all so worried about Pedro that we don't even note that a new Met has been summoned and is making his debut.

If Mets.com can be trusted, Padilla is wearing 28, which is just the last shovel on Scott Strickland's grave is what it is.

Yeah, I know. The Mets are idiots and should have released Graves outright. Save your keystrokes.

Starting Pitchers
Benson	Glavine	Ishii	Martinez	Zambrano
Relief Pitchers
Bell	Graves	Heilman	Hernandez	Koo
Relief Pitchers		Catchers		Infielders
Looper	Padilla	Castro	Piazza	Anderson
Infielders
Cairo	Mientkiewicz	Offerman	Reyes	Woodward
Infielders	Outfielders
Wright	Beltran	Cameron	Floyd	Williams

Injured Players:
Starting Pitchers	Relief Pitchers	Infielders
Trachsel 60-Day	Heredia 15-Day

[Guest Edgy DC]

Demoted	Promoted
Ishii	Seo

Better late than never, Jae Weong Seo comes back fiercely.

I watched some replay of yeseterday. It looks like Seo, and others on the staff are learning from Pedro how to fool the hell out of peeps with the change. Sheesh.

Anyhow, a squeeze may be coming upon Trachsel's return.

Starting Pitchers
Benson	Glavine	Seo	Martinez	Zambrano
Relief Pitchers
Graves	Heilman	Hernandez	Koo	Looper
Relief Pitchers		Catchers		Infielders
Padilla	Santiago	Castro	Piazza	Anderson
Infielders
Cairo	Mientkiewicz	Offerman	Reyes	Woodward
Infielders	Outfielders
Wright	Beltran	Cameron	Floyd	Williams

Injured Players:
Starting Pitchers	Relief Pitchers	Infielders
Trachsel 60-Day	Heredia 15-Day

[Elster88]

Zambrano still has options?

[Guest Edgy DC]

I didn't believe it either, but apparently, when the notion of sending him down was tossed around earlier this season, it was so reported.

[metirish]

Kaz Matsui will be activated for the Padre series..

[Theoldmole]

Minky to DL? So the News says.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Disabled	Activated
Mientkiewicz	Matsui

The Mole lives up to his name and gets us the news before it happens.

Matsui pinch singles and scores the first run.

Starting Pitchers
Benson	Glavine	Seo	Martinez	Zambrano
Relief Pitchers
Graves	Heilman	Hernandez	Koo	Looper
Relief Pitchers		Catchers		Infielders
Padilla	Santiago	Castro	Piazza	Anderson
Infielders
Cairo	Matsui	Offerman	Reyes	Woodward
Infielders	Outfielders
Wright	Beltran	Cameron	Floyd	Williams

Injured Players:
Starting Pitchers	Relief Pitchers	Infielders
Trachsel 60-Day	Heredia 15-Day

[MFS62]

Eddie Coleman on the Steve Somers show on WFAN:
Cameron on the DL with a couple of broken bones (nose and cheek?).

Diaz called up.

Later

[Guest Edgy DC]

Disabled	Activated
Cameron	Diaz

Initial roster fallout from the collision.

Part of the story is how lucky the Mets had been, health-wise, compared to previous years.

Starting Pitchers
Benson	Glavine	Seo	Martinez	Zambrano
Relief Pitchers
Graves	Heilman	Hernandez	Koo	Looper
Relief Pitchers		Catchers		Infielders
Padilla	Santiago	Castro	Piazza	Anderson
Infielders
Cairo	Matsui	Offerman	Reyes	Woodward
Infielders	Outfielders
Wright	Beltran	Diaz	Floyd	Williams

Injured Players:
Starting Pitchers	Relief Pitchers	Infielders	Outfielders
Trachsel 60-Day	Heredia 15-Day

[Guest Edgy DC]

Designated for Assignment	Promoted
Santiago	Jacobs

Jacobs comes up to cover for a hairline fracture on Piazza. Hopefully it's not longterm, but, in the end, he may be Piazza's eventual replacement.

Welcome to the show, Mike Jacobs.

Meanwhile, Jose Santiago, through no fault of his own, enters limbo.

Starting Pitchers
Benson	Glavine	Martinez	Seo	Zambrano
Relief Pitchers
Graves	Heilman	Hernandez	Koo	Looper
Relief Pitchers	Catchers			Infielders
Padilla	Castro	Jacobs	Piazza	Anderson
Infielders
Cairo	Matsui	Offerman	Reyes	Woodward
Infielders	Outfielders
Wright	Beltran	Diaz	Floyd	Williams

Injured Players:
Starting Pitchers	Relief Pitchers	Infielders	Outfielders
Trachsel (On Rehab Assignment)	Heredia (15-Day)

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

Why do the Mets keep holding onto Graves? I just don't get it?

[Guest GYC]

Forgive me for being dumb, but the blue means no more options, correct?

[Guest Edgy DC]

That's the idea.

No, I don't know why Zambrano is orange. It doesn't seem right, but earlier in the year, it was reported that the Mets still could option him down.

[Gwreck]

="Edgy DC"]No, I don't know why Zambrano is orange. It doesn't seem right, but earlier in the year, it was reported that the Mets still could option him down.

I'm convinced that he doesn't have options.

The explanation of "options" (courtesy Rob Neyer):

]"Options" After three years as a pro, a player must be protected on a team's 40-man roster, or he is eligible for the Rule 5 draft (more on that later). Once he's served those three years, and assuming he is added to the 40-man roster, his club then has what are called "options" on him. When a player is on the 40-man roster but not on the 25-man Major League roster, he is on "optional assignment." One common misconception about the rules is that a player may only be "optioned out" three times. Actually, each player has three option years, and he can be sent up and down as many times as the club chooses within those three seasons. When you hear that a player is "out of options," that means he's been on the 40-man roster during three different seasons, beginning with his fourth as a pro, and to be sent down again he'll have to clear waivers (more on those below).

Zambrano's first pro season was 1996. Assuming he wasn't added to the D-Rays 40-man until 2001 (his first ML season), he'd be out of options after the 2003 season. Zambrano's record supports this - he was in the minors and majors in 2001-03, but starting in 2004 hasn't been in the minors.

The entire Neyer "Transactions Primer" (a must-read): [url]http://espn.go.com/mlb/s/transanctionsprimer.html[/url]