Rico Brogna, Good Fit (and other ex-Met updates)

[Guest Valadius]

He ended up with two homers and 6 RBIs.

[Guest seawolf17]

Going to see the LI Ducks and Newark Bears tonight and tomorrow, so...



Chris Jones was hired as manager of the Newark Bears in November of 2004, becoming the fourth skipper in franchise history. He follows in the footsteps of Tom O�Malley (1998-2001), Marv Foley (2002) and Bill Madlock (2003-2004) in becoming the field boss of the Bears.

The 39 year old Jones is a familiar name to Bears fans as he spent the 2004 season playing in Newark. Jones appeared in 79 games with the Bears and hit 15 home runs, drove in 69 runs and was tied for 8th in the Atlantic League batting race with a .313 average last season. At the conclusion of the �04 campaign Jones retired as a player after having played 21 seasons in professional baseball.

Highly respected by his peers for his teaching and leadership skills, Jones was highly sought after for coaching positions following the 2004 season. He decided to accept the Bears managerial position to build on what he accomplished as a player in Newark last season.

Originally a 3rd round selection of the Cincinnati Reds out of Liverpool High School in upstate New York in 1984, Jones played for eleven different organizations in his career. He broke into the major leagues in 1991 with the Reds, batting .292 in 89 at-bats that season. In all Jones played in 548 career major league games, for 8 different big league teams, and batted .252 with 30 home runs and 131 RBI.

Jones spent two seasons playing for the New York Mets in 1995 and 1996. He hit a career-high 8 home runs for the Mets in �95 while batting .280 with 31 runs batted in. Jones also played in the majors with the Houston Astros, Colorado Rockies, San Diego Padres, Arizona Diamondbacks, San Francisco Giants and Milwaukee Brewers.

[Guest Valadius]

Jason Tyner was the DH and batted 2nd for the Twins tonight. He went 0 for 4.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Bud Harrelson empties his rolodex for autism night.

Let's hope Rocky can make it this year.

[Guest mlbaseballtalk]

Edgy DC wrote: Tiberius Wigginton named International League Player of the Week.

And people said "No ya can't give up him for anything"

:roll:

I think he and Hundley were probably the most overatted in terms of popularity overweighing A) actual production and B) the overall value of the guy who replaced them

Can't put Alfonzo in with them because, well since he left 2B has been a severe black hole (and even 3rd in some ways can be called a black hole from the point he was moved till David Wright debuted)

Steve

[Guest Edgy DC]

]And people said "No ya can't give up him for anything"

I don't think too many peeps said that.

[Guest mlbaseballtalk]

Edgy DC wrote: ]And people said "No ya can't give up him for anything" I don't think too many peeps said that.

True maybe not here, but listening to WFAN and 1050ESPN Radio last couple of years and you'd thought that Wigginton was the second coming of Pete Rose

:roll:

[Guest Edgy DC]

Bobby Bonilla inducted into the Hall of Fame.

Matt Lawton is the 93rd player to play for both the Mets and the Yankees.

Scarlet may have mentioned it, but the A's called up Alberto Castillo and Matt Watson from Sacramento with the start of September.

[Guest Elster88]

That link caused about ten pop up windows.
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[Guest Edgy DC]

Yeah, that site stanks that way. I hit refresh and the article re-loads without the popups. But it's not exactly Pulitzer stuff, to tell you the truth.

You missed a good analogy opportunity there, though. You could have said, "I haven't seen so many popups since Joe Orsulak in 1993."

[Guest Frayed Knot]

Bob L. (Gemeinweiser) Miller

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/not-just-any-bob-miller/

[Guest seawolf17]

Ex-Met draft pick [url=http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2153470]Lloyd McClendon [/url]was given his walking papers by the Pirates today.

[Guest MFS62]

Even John McGraw couldn't have won with that roster.

Later

[Guest Vic Sage]

5 straight 90-loss seasons is enough rope for any manager and enough patience for any owner.

on edit: and furthermore, the Pirates' roster should be a wet dream for the "play the prospects" crowd. Their lineup is replete with talented youngsters. Why is that a roster thats destined to lose in Pittsburgh, yet one that we should institute here at Shea?

[Guest Elster88]

seawolf17 wrote: Ex-Met draft pick [url=http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2153470]Lloyd McClendon [/url]was given his walking papers by the Pirates today.

He will always be remembered for taking first base with him when he was ejected. For me that beats out Bobby V's disguise.
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[Guest Edgy DC]

Damned if I didn't have a similar biography of Miller in the hopper.

I liked McClendon, a badass to the last. It's getting to be that anybody well-positioned to start off on a potentially long managerial career (a Randolph-type situation) would decline an offer from a team such as Pittsburgh or Kansas City. The ones who'd be inclined to take such jobs are the ones unlikely to ever get another offer. (Anybody ever see McClendon's interim replacement, Pete Mackanin, on the short list of future managers?)

On the other hand, local hero Tony Pe�a, might be a direction the Pirates look in.

[Guest MFS62]

Vic Sage wrote: on edit: and furthermore, the Pirates' roster should be a wet dream for the "play the prospects" crowd. Their lineup is replete with talented youngsters. Why is that a roster thats destined to lose in Pittsburgh, yet one that we should institute here at Shea?

Vic, I don't think anyone has suggested a "Logan's Run" kind of approach, where anyone over 30 should be discarded (killed in the movie).
But I sense the frustration of those who want to introduce young player to the 25 man roster, and then play them in meanngful situations. They see the team adding a bunch of has-beens or never-wases at the expense of giving younger players (and pitchers) a chance to prove/ disprove that they belong.

Why do the Mets do it?
Maybe because there are no major league ready players in the system.
Maybe its because they have the money to spend on veteran talent.
Maybe because they have heard that "New York Fans won't support a team during a rebuilding year."

I dunno.
And why have the PIrates exceusively played youngsters?
Maybe because they don't have the money to spend on acquiring/ retaining veterans.

But I don't think there's anybody here who believes that this is an either/ or situation.

Later

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

My impression was that although the 1962 Mets liked Miller's ability they did not like how he handled himself. That was a bad trade as it turned out

[Guest Edgy DC]

Davey Johnson gets game from Lastings Milledge.

A nice one: Jack Aker is available to give your little guy private baseball lessons.

[Guest Valadius]

Glendon Rusch is pitching a one-hitter for the Cubs against the Cards tonight.

[Guest Rotblatt]

The Astros purchased Strickland's contract from AAA Round Rock on September 3 and have used him twice. He's pitched 1.2 perfect innings in middle relief, stranding 2 runners and striking out one so far. I don't believe, however, he would be eligible for the post-season roster should they make it that far.

His final AAA numbers: 2-0, 5 SV, 2.37 ERA, 0.79 WHIP, 20 K, 4 BB in 19 IP.

[Guest Valadius]

Amending my earlier news on Glendon Rusch, he had a perfect game through 6 innings.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Early speculation about the Pirate job does indeed include Art Howe, as well as his successor in Oakland, Ken Macha, who has no contract for 2006.

The Long Island Ducks have re-signed Bill Pusipher to join them for their playoff drive.

First-year skipper Gary Carter of the Gulf Coast Mets has been named Manager of the Year for the Gulf Coast League.

[Guest Elster88]

Edgy DC wrote: First-year skipper Gary Carter of the Gulf Coast Mets has been named Manager of the Year for the Gulf Coast League.

I was never a huge Carter fan, I just appreciated his Metness, but I think it's nice that a retired player is willing to put in time managing in the minors.
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[Guest MFS62]

Elster88 wrote: I was never a huge Carter fan, I just appreciated his Metness, but I think it's nice that a retired player is willing to put in time managing in the minors.

Sounds like there's a story there. Did you have the current Met skipper in mind when you wrote that?

Later

[Guest mlbaseballtalk]

MFS62 wrote: ="Elster88"] I was never a huge Carter fan, I just appreciated his Metness, but I think it's nice that a retired player is willing to put in time managing in the minors. Sounds like there's a story there. Did you have the current Met skipper in mind when you wrote that? Later

Before a flame war stars, I should point out that Carter last fall openly campaigned for the Met job, while Art Howe still was very much gainfully employed

Steve

[Guest MFS62]

Oh, No flame intended here against Carter. The fact that he is willing to pay his dues and learn the managing craft in the minors is admirable. I guess he realized (after, as you said, the Mets rejected him as Howe's successor) that nobody was going to just hand him a major league managing job without experience.

Later

[Guest Elster88]

mlbaseballtalk wrote: Before a flame war stars, I should point out that Carter last fall openly campaigned for the Met job, while Art Howe still was very much gainfully employed Steve

I don't remember this. What did he say? Short of seeing something along the lines of a quote of his saying "I would like the Mets' manager job." I tend to doubt things like this.

Also, let's not forget that Art Howe knew he was getting fired, as did the rest of the world, before the end of the season.

I don't see where the flame war was going to break out, either.
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[Guest MFS62]

]What did he say?

Beats me.
That was 88's comment.

LAter

[Guest Elster88]

I'm 88. I didn't say it. :)
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