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Edgy MD wrote:

Well, honestly, business meetings in the middle of the field happen 90 times per game in football.



I don't mind mound conferences. It's certainly kind of bullshit when they are used as a stalling tactic, but I think MLB is attacking the wrong thing there.

Those are between the players and are timed more carefully, under penalty, than in baseball. Only in baseball can a coach stop everything and walk onto the field to hold a meeting. Plus, they aren't stopping the game as they are in baseball as the clock is often running when the players are in the huddle.


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Sandy's offseason so far:

May--YAY!

Everyone else--ARE YOU FRIGGING KIDDING ME?

I should have included Walker and Pillar in the "YAY" column. I apologize to Taijuan and Kevin, as well as their families.


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Edgy MD wrote:

Well, honestly, business meetings in the middle of the field happen 90 times per game in football.



I don't mind mound conferences. It's certainly kind of bullshit when they are used as a stalling tactic, but I think MLB is attacking the wrong thing there.

Those are between the players and are timed more carefully, under penalty, than in baseball. Only in baseball can a coach stop everything and walk onto the field to hold a meeting. Plus, they aren't stopping the game as they are in baseball as the clock is often running when the players are in the huddle.


Coaches stop the game to call meetings all the time in football and basketball. They each get six per game in the NFL and seven per game in the NBA.



Mound visits aren't the problem.


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I understand your perspective but don't agree with you. The next time Steve Nash calls a timeout and walks onto the middle of the court, DM me. The only time a coach should be allowed to go to the mound is to replace the pitcher. It's one of many reasons why games are so damn long. And there are too many timeouts in basketball, both pro and college, too, but at least those games last only 2:30 no matter how hard they try.


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I think mound visits, and certainly the quantity of them, are part of the problem but, yeah, baseball is hardly alone in this area. Football and Basketball have at least as many breaks and

whether the game stops when the manager goes on the field to meet the players or when the players walk off the field/court to go meet the coach is a distinction without a difference IMO.

There are simply too many time outs in American sports. Soccer get it right here. Strategy discussions are for pre-game, for half-time, for practice time. More responsibility should remain

with the players to make decisions on their own.


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I don't think the issue is whether a time out leads to a huddle at center court vs. a huddle on the corner of the court but near the bench, is it? Is it really dramatically different if the player walks to the coach or the coach walks to the player? Or is it, as FK says, a distinction without a difference?



If it really is mound visits you don't want, then you're certainly winning. MLB has gone to great lengths to curtail them. They just, you know, did a really bad job in this game.



If I want to pick up the pace of play, there are a dozen things I'd go after before mound visits, which aren't necessarily devoid of nuance and drama and meaning, though they can be certainly be a stupid waste of time.



But I don't get the idea that MLB executives know what's good in a baseball game or what's bad.


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Sure. Whatever. I said that it's part of things and to me, the perception of a televised mid-game chat mid-field is worse than an NBA timeout which is not televised as that leads to a commercial break. The point was that MLB allowed the interpreter visit not to count as a "mound visit" so it didn't feel like my argument was "winning" as MLB allowed for another loophole to drag out their absurdly long games. But when you say "But I don't get the idea that MLB executives know what's good in a baseball game or what's bad" we are in total agreement.


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