Edgy MD wrote: Yes, but we're going in circles here. You wrote I'm just not a fan of using closers in the 9th no matter what. No matter what? I assume you mean you're not a fan of using closers in the 9th unless there is a save to be had. OMG. In a tie game. Frayed Knot wrote: Zvon wrote: If we could get 2 out of Juerys. I'll change that tune. To me if Fammy fails, very bad. Horrible. If he succeeds, after the 9th we are pretty much throwing the game to the wind in Lugo, who is the only RP left. So you'd rather definitely use Lugo in a tie game in the 9th than maybe use Lugo if and when we get to extras? Not buying that logic at all. As soon as it was tied I would have changed my strategy to be prepared for extra innings. And that would change the entire set up. And sure, sometimes you will have to turn to arms that are bottom end. I would hold back the closer as long as I possibly could and try to get him in that position. At a certain point tho even that plan goes down the drain.