Youch! It didn't sting that much tho cuz the Mets have really, really, really, sucked since just before the break. Tough to watch. I don't agree with all this talk that Shorty should go. At this point, the way the team has played, if he wants to try and keep things as positive as possible he has to say just what he's saying. The other alternative is to go off like Francesca, and I wouldn't want to see that. If TC had a contending team, we'd be contending. Its amazing and enjoyable that we were in the hunt at all this season.