Ceetar

Zvon wrote: Ceetar wrote: yup, 2-run error. and Mets still can't hit. If we lose this game because of a tailor made DP ground ball 2 run error I may need a vacation from this team. Hef has that shitty uneven inning, gets the DP grounder, Q, who is usually steady, boots it. Could have gotten out of it at 3-1. Instead its 3-3. These guys are driving me crazy. It could not have been an easier DP! Grrr. only needed one out actually. Hefner seems to be tiring and Young plays the hit poorly.

yup, 2-run error. and Mets still can't hit.

well yeah, I think I've made clear I don't think Kirk should've been sent down. But not for 'depth of bench' reasons. Can't bring him back for another 7-8 days without an injury right? so who, if we're looking to expand the bench with a lefty, do you go to? you're going to be adding Duda after not too much longer too, so that's another lefty in the mix overall.

Edgy MD wrote: I'm not particularly impressed by Turner's capacity in this regard. It's better than say..Valdespin.

smg58 wrote: Edgy MD wrote: At least you understood. It's certainly costing us offense and defense, and has put Lagares in a position to flop. I went to game three at the Nationals Park and we had a four-man bench ---- Turner, Brown, Satin, and Gorgeous. That wasn't going to get it done. In hindsight, the guy it most put in a position to flop was Carlos Torres. But I do think the four-man, lefty-free bench is untenable. Turner hits righties better than lefties, but I'm not positive Collins knows that. Satin doesn't really have splits either.

MFS62 wrote: And Lucas Duda has been 0-13 (8Ks) in low A ball since his reactivation from the DL. Later He hasn't been reactivated, he's on a rehab-assignment. The difference being he's working on his swing and mechanics and will be promoted as the best, or second best perhaps behind Byrd, outfielder available. Valdespin actually needs to get better and earn a spot.

i doubt everyone hates him. Gotta do more than 45 trips to the plate though, but the BB and K rates are both looking nice. If he keeps that up, absolutely.

vtmet wrote: I find some of those defensive metrics to be head scratchers...according to fangraphs defensive stats, Tejada is a better shortstop than "Q"...but when you watch both play, "Q" is obviously the better shortstop... Not sure I'd say that. This year, sure, overall? nah.

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Nymr83 wrote: Ceetar wrote: vtmet wrote: 15 errors just seems like a lot for this point of the season for a 2nd baseman...and his error totals didn't seem that bad about 5 or 6 weeks ago... It's a wee bit high, but errors aren't real predictive of how good a guy is defensively. I'm not sure I'd classify Murphy as "good" but perhaps "Above average"? I'd say "somewhat below-average". Nobody really seems to agree on defensive stats, but all of them say he costs runs at baseballreference. Well, he could still be slightly above average and cost them runs, depending. ;-) I think defensive stats are a little too negative across the board usually. Fangraphs gives him a 1.1 UZR/150 which is good for 12/19 of qualifying. Only 19? hmm. That's slightly below average although 1.1 implies more good than bad. If you lower the threshold to 300 innings, he's 19/35. He's above 0 in terms of double plays and range, but negative on errors. I guess it really depends on what you're looking for it. He's certainly doing a good enough job for the Mets. He's 9/16 of qualified hitters on Fangraphs in WAR. I mean, if you want to pay Cano..I don't think the Mets are in that position to pay that type of free agent starting in 2014.. Otherwise Murphy is probably the most efficient guy, payroll/roster adjustment wise, they can get.

vtmet wrote: 15 errors just seems like a lot for this point of the season for a 2nd baseman...and his error totals didn't seem that bad about 5 or 6 weeks ago... It's a wee bit high, but errors aren't real predictive of how good a guy is defensively. I'm not sure I'd classify Murphy as "good" but perhaps "Above average"?

vtmet wrote: Does anyone know details of when he's made his errors? it seems like he was playing relatively decent 2B defense until they put him at 1st for a few games, and then has made a plethora of errors since returning to 2nd (but I have no breakdown of his defensive breakdowns)... he's occasionally made the error all year long, don't think it was more or less before or after the couple of games over there. Just regular error stuff though, overthrows mostly. Nothing catastrophic like.

Frayed Knot wrote: Ceetar wrote: Feel like Nieuwenhuis is getting short shrift. He's not exactly earning a longer shrift. He's not not either. Clearly Lagares is going to bolt ahead tonight, but Kirk hasn't really been bad the last month. same AB, walks almost twice as much as Lagares and strikes out less. And those things are more sustainable than the really high BABIP Lagares has. (neither's K rate is very good) Fangraphs has him at .1 WAR higher even over that stretch.

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat≶=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2013&month=3&season1=&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=6400,5384 Feel like Nieuwenhuis is getting short shrift. In a lot of ways he's been nearly as good as Lagares over the past month or so, and you worry about Lagares' BAbip (well, I do) in the sense that he doesn't walk, although he's been walking some, comparatively, recently. Juan's clearly the better defender, by eye at least, but Kirk's been doing a pretty good job too. Kirk shouldn't be sitting against righties. I know everyone hates Duda for some reason, particularly defensively, but if you've got the Juanenhuis platoon in center it covers some of that (Ankiel and Valdespin are not good defenders/rangy and I'm not sure Cowgill was either). Duda gets on base, hits the ball, etc. It really makes a case to trade Byrd and even maybe Young (if you believe this is more fluke than not) just to make room. Mike Baxter hitting in the minors too, and Andrew Brown hasn't been bad.

Zvon wrote: Mejia done for the day. Great job! 0 runs, 7 hits, 7 Ks. I'm going to try to not get too excited until we see him pitch a few more times. Where's the fun in that?! Best second half pitcher or bust!

Edgy MD wrote: Yeah, it serves us right for trying to decide his fate in the middle of a slump. Or maybe it served him right for slumping right as the trade deadline approached. He's been really streaky the last two years. I think we've got a pretty good sense at this point overall, what Daniel is, let's not let the peaks and valleys sway us too much.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Lagares with a RBI single. 4-zip. Even a real walk today, that's two in a couple days! maybe..?

Nymr83 wrote: metirish wrote: Great work from Theo to get that much money paid by the MFY's. Not so great imo. The Cubs paid 17 of 25 million and Soriano has been good this year. the "prospects" i'm hearing they got back werent so good either. this was a salary dump without even dumping 2/3 of it! He's been good, and I'm sure Yankee Stadium will help with the power, but he's OBP is less than .300 and this is still one of his worst years in the big leagues..and if he's on the downward slope and they're still paying him next year?

Vic Sage wrote: seawolf17 wrote: Buck's first RBI since April 23. Buck has hit .300 since July 1. He's been in a good groove for 3 weeks now. which doesn't suck. .400 OBP too. I wouldn't rule out the more rest he's gotten (via a couple of starts for Recker and the break) Of course, nearly a .400 BAbip too. But it's all gravy now as d'Arnaud is playing. They'll have a replacement ready for him soon.

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Among ARod's complaints, apparently, is that Jeter gets to be in uniform and in the dugout while on the DL for the same supposed injury but yet he's being treated as if he's got leprosy. That's because Jeter, at this point, is pretty much a mascot, but without the dugout roof dances and t-shirt-shooting guns. he does hand out gift baskets though.

Frayed Knot wrote: Among ARod's complaints, apparently, is that Jeter gets to be in uniform and in the dugout while on the DL for the same supposed injury but yet he's being treated as if he's got leprosy. 15day versus 60day, not sure that's hard-coded into the CBA (not that A-Rod cares) though. Let's say A-Rod walked away. he won't, obviously, but do you think the Yankees retire his number? I mean, he's going into the Hall of Fame when the writers get over their bias, and he's mostly a Yankee and they retire just about everyone's numbers..

metirish wrote: Just so ya'll know, the Mets medical staff re-tweeted that. I think that account retweets basically anything with some variation of "stupid wilpons" or "crack-brained medical staff"

metirish wrote: It really is fascinating....would love if he showed up for the game tomorrow. Show up in uniform and if they tell him he can't stay, buy the best ticket he can and tweet from the seats in full uniform.

What did Kate Hudson have to say? Better yet, did Henry Hudson have any opinions, like: 'Damn Mets, they left me adrift up here in the cold. Friggin cheap-ass Wilpons, the least they could do is name a damn river after me or something' bah, I'm sure they'll rename the Hudson after some NY governor sooner or later.

Centerfield wrote: I ask about Jon Niese. His is the only injury that impacts next year. Duda, d'Arnaud, Tejada certainly.