Ceetar

dude, the horse is already dead.

d'Kong76 wrote: Never was in the Harv-is-godlike club but maybe all those no decisions while pitching lights out got into his swelled head? Maybe someone's out there writing about this (maybe i should?) but there's plenty of questions in my mind about the pitch selection and game play last night. Ron Darling was going on and on about it and I barely watched the broadcast. Harvey allowed his first HR on an 0-2 pitch, ever. It's Travis d'Arnaud's first game back. Were they on the same page? Was the game plan different last night? HAS there been a concerted effort to occasionally pitch to more contact? (Which is really stupid) The Mets are throwing more balls in the zone, striking out more guys but walking fewer. (This was one of Ron's points) The scouting reports may have adjusted, it's time to adjust back. Slow adjustments to hitter adjustments has been one of my long standing points of contention with Mets pitchers. Ron suggested throwing a few more way inside. Make them uncomfortable. You can probably miss on any side of the zone you want though, if guys are more apt to swing because they know it's a high-probably "in the zone" pitch, they're going to swing at more balls too. So make them do that. (This is where it's okay, if you hit your spot, to be okay with contact.) I wish I had the time to really dig into these numbers. Like, what's the opponents swing% in June versus April-May? edit: 46.7% opponent swing percentage in April, 48.4% in June if I'm reading that right.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Ceetar wrote: we'll get a few days or weeks of anti Dark Knight/Harvey Day talk, which is really the exact same thing, and then he'll be dominate again and we'll be back to it. what gives you CAHNfidence Harvey is any good anymore? He's basically the Cuddyer of pitching lately. Because 3 of 4 bad starts is a small sample? Because he's pretty much always been good and that he's just a bit off right now is what makes the most sense given what we know about him, his stats, his injury history, etc? Also Cuddyer is hitting .314/.359/.465 over the last 28 days, and is slightly above average on the season offensively.

Hopefully the defense is Tejada, Flores, Herrera, Duda and doesn't feature rapidly cooling soup at all.

we'll get a few days or weeks of anti Dark Knight/Harvey Day talk, which is really the exact same thing, and then he'll be dominate again and we'll be back to it.

Frayed Knot wrote: From the 'Nobody saw THIS coming' department, one could make a good argument for ARod being their MVP so far. I dunno, if I had to pick a guy before the season who'd have the best season for them, it would've been Gardner with A-Rod a close second.

"Hunter Pence fakes stomach ailments to avoid our signs."

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: You know what would be cool? If Matt Hovvey throws a no-hitter tonight, just to get back at them. a 3-HBP no-hitter.

Edgy MD wrote: The rules kind of stink in that regard. If he had been able to re-sign with Atlanta before that game even ended, I think all parties would have been amenable. are we sure he didn't?

Edgy MD wrote: With regard to it being game 162, no doubt, but mantras of detachment, I guess, was the habit he practiced. I suspect sometimes athletes zone out and basically give reporters answers to their inane questions on auto-pilot. You notice this when they give answers that sorta answer the question but are full of cliches and rote responses that seem more like statements than answers. Of course, Tommy had about 8 innings to figure out he should probably say something better than that. Or maybe he was just done. Tired of it all. He went back to atlanta to suck for a bit in 2008 but perhaps he mentally retired after his last taste of the playoffs in 2006.

yeah but Glavine was game 162. There's a difference in tempering emotional highs and lows over the course of a long season, and actually showing passion for your job and performance. I mean, it'd have been one thing if Glavine gave a ho-hum "I pitched well all season (he didn't) and this one game just didn't go so well." it would've been better than the flat out lack of emotion. But nothing Terry (or Wally) can yell at the offense is going to make them better hitters. All he can do is push process and make sure guys get their reps in and do their work. Though sure, maybe he can get a little fired up in the pregame today and say the offense has been unacceptable, while pushing the positive of d'Arnaud and Herrera returning this week as needing to be part of the solution for everyone.

Honestly I'm more pissed at the defense. Duda saved some additional throws too, but then muffed a weird hop at him later on. Especially Campbell basically freezing and pulling up on Heston's grounder. http://m.mlb.com/video/v152528383/?game_pk=414525

yes, they're 2-21 when trailing after 6, but this is a function of having no offense, not of having no fire. turns out the great players are more likely to get hits late in games/clutch spots/etc because they're more likely to get hits in general. they technically have 13 come from behind wins.

I just got the title. duh. I'm feeling a little slow today. Anyway, I listened to the post game just for Howie's calls of the end. Oddly this was my first postgame of the year.

Frayed Knot wrote: I think they mentioned last night that Dilson is traveling to NYC but that his activation won't necessarily be immediate, as opposed to Travis who's going to be put into the lineup ready or not. I thought it was the opposite, but admittedly I wasn't in front of a computer following closely last night. I liked Wayne Randazzo fine when he was filling in, but his post game felt plodding and forced last night. I just wanted to hear the calls on the recap but took forever to get there.

I mean, don't they know how they speak to the media is directly correlated to their ability to get a hit tomorrow?

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Ceetar is the reason all this shit is going on. oh yes, definitely my fault. It was my tweet about the deep fried oreos I bet. Here's a question I was pondering early. After he hits TWO guys back to back, in the fourth, if Duda gets angry and yells stuff at Heston, does it result in the benches getting warned? Does it result in an ejection in the 9th when he hits Recker? Or, game-theory, does it result in him pitching a little more carefully, a little differently, and he misses just enough to give up some hits?

Hey, I'm going to this one.

Frayed Knot wrote: I much prefer the rules -- or at least the suggestions -- where you're discouraged from walking around During innings. There are several parks where ushers will politely hold fans returning from bathrooms or concessions at the top of the aisles until they're between outs on the field. I prefer them as suggestions, mainly because I prefer situations that don't have ushers at every entrance.

[youtube:34587j2g]DNbA1bd07hs[/youtube:34587j2g] Mets aren't as poorly run as the Nationals. They wouldn't shut down Harvey in the playoffs do to some dumb innings limit thing.

d'Kong76 wrote: Is anyone sure that Harvey would be available to pitch in a long cold postseason... his mound time would be used up, no? the Mets (and Harvey) wouldn't shut him down for the playoffs, they're not as poorly run as the Nationals.

Granderson at wRC+ 111 is higher than the RF average 110 and the NL RF average 105. I mean, you want better for him but above average has to be above 'suck' right? (Cuddyer at 110)

I keep expecting this iffy play by both clubs to start getting updates like "The Braves are only a game behind now!" but they're still under .500 though that's only 3 back at this point. The other two "baseball" teams of course are tire fires.

it's almost like no one watched the video i posted early in this thread.

I feel like this is obligatory. Switch pitcher vs switch hitter Good stuff at 1m43 or so. link starts there.