Vic Sage

with a groundball pitcher like stroman on the mound, frazier over lagares makes some small amount of sense.

Also from SF was forkballer Danny Frisella. I got an autograph from him when i was a kid, in `72. I think he spoke at our little league breakfast that year. When he died in a car accident a few years later, i was devastated. It was one of my first experiences with tragic death of somebody i... well, i didn't KNOW him, but i had met him.. and he gave me his autograph when i was 11! So i took it personally. i still have the autograph somewhere. He was a good reliever for the Mets for a few years, before getting traded for Millan and George Stone, who helped get us to the WS the following year.

who are you going to believe: Ceetar or your lying eyes?

We could toss him off an orbiting satellite and see if he can catch one of Alonzo's pop ups before he hits the ground.

so your picking the Cubs, then, right?

its not a different question; i raised this point above. [bLOCKQUOTE]5) I'm not championing Panik. I know he's not good. But he's better at this moment, and when Nimmo and Lowrie return (which appears imminent), the choice won't be frazier v panik; it'll be frazier vs Nimmo or Lowrie or Davis or Lagares, and i don't think Frazier is the better choice in any of those scenarios.[/bLOCKQUOTE] but i'm glad you agree.

1/2. tomato, tomahto 3. i said errors were not the only measure of d; i know what range factor is, and the other flawed defensive measures. But they are not meaningless, and his increased rate is not subjective, unless your claiming a conspiracy of scoring; 4. batting average. not meaningless. not as meaningful as other stats, but not meaningless. 5. again, this is not about Frazier v Panik. Nimmo will likely be back by the end of the week. Does Frazier start over him, with Nimmo platooning with Lagares (taking ABs from our best defensive OFer and one of our hottest hitters)? Or does Nimmo play LF, with Davis moving to 3b, McNeil to 2b and Frazier to bench? i would only start frazier against LHPs, when we have a groundball pitcher going (i.e., Stroman)

Vic Sage wrote: There is no situation in the world I'd rather Panik than Frazier. Frazier has batted .188/.243/.344 with seven home runs over his last 206 plate appearances. That's not a small sample size. And its not inconsistent with the crappy play he provided last year. His D has become a bit erratic, as well. Time to move on. That's both arbitrary end points AND subjective ( the defense) Frazier has been subpar, but not super bad and any random BA luck Panik has run into lately will end, and he's a big part of why we just got swept, plus he's been one of the worst players in the league this year and has almost never been even average. 1) my evaluation of Frazier is neither arbitrary nor subjective, but your distinction between "subpar" and "super bad" certainly is. 2) The stats show Frazier is currently shit and has been most of this year (except for June). You want to go further back? Fine. He was shit last year, too (and not good the two years before that either). How big a sample size will suffice? 3) As to my subjective evaluation of his defense, he's made nearly an equal number of errors over the last month (5) to those he made for the first 4 months of the season (6), including the key one he made friday night. Errors are obviously not the only measure of d, but his increased rate of errors is something more than subjective. 4) While Frazier has been superbad, Panik is hitting .300 over the last 2 weeks, including his 1-10 against Atlanta which was certainly no more damaging than Frazier's 1-10; 5) I'm not championing Panik. I know he's not good. But he's better at this moment, and when Nimmo and Lowrie return (which appears imminent), the choice won't be frazier v panik; it'll be frazier vs Nimmo or Lowrie or Davis or Lagares, and i don't think Frazier is the better choice in any of those scenarios.

=Ceetar post_id=19975 time=1566842591 user_id=102] There is no situation in the world I'd rather Panik than Frazier.

also, i happened to walk naked past the TV. you know how well that's gone in the past. just sayin

Vic Sage wrote: I drove back to NY from Ithaca yesterday (dropping off little Vic at college), and its a long-ass drive, so i passed out early last night and didn't see the big finish. I wake up this morning, sad because my little guy is gone, and turn on SNY to see we came back and won. Still sad, but happy, too. Alright, Mets. Damn you. You made a bad day better, so now I guess i have to get back on board and let you break my heart again. LGFM As soon as i hopped back on the band wagon, we get swept by Atlanta. Sorry all. My bad.

With McNeil back and Frazier sucking on both sides of the ball for over a month, it's time to make the move. I'd rather have Panik in the lineup than Frazier, at this point. Rosario - ss McNeil* - 3b Alonzo - 1b Conforto* - rf Ramos - C Davis - Lf Panik* - 2b Lagares - Cf Nimmo* can platoon with Lagares when he comes up. The bench would then be: Rivera - C Frazier - CI Guillorme* - MI (replaced by Lowrie#, if he should ever come back). Lagares/Nimmo* - Of Or, Lowrie can replace Panik, if/when he stops hitting. Or, if we want to play Lagares and Nimmo together (our best defensive alignment), McNeil goes to 2b and Davis to 3b, with Lowrie and Panik coming off the bench. but, in any event, I was done with Frazier before the season started and, despite an excellent June, he's returned to the pumpkin he's been for years. Enough already.

the only difference between the Mets during their winning streak and the last 4 games is that, instead of getting key hits at key moments, we didn't. So much of baseball is random chance and people are loathe to acknowledge that.

Adam Guttridge, BVW's asst GM hire, who recommended the JD Davis trade, is an analytics guy who created an "Automated Prospect Model" as a tool to automate scouting. The video linked here is him explaining the model at a sports analytics conference. Very interesting: https://www.sny.tv/mets/news/meet-adam-guttridge-a-top-mets-executive-who-suggested-the-trade-for-jd-davis/310209720https://www.sny.tv/mets/news/meet-adam-guttridge-a-top-mets-executive-who-suggested-the-trade-for-jd-davis/310209720

the only thing that keeps it from "the greatest" ranking is that we would've lost if the Tribe hadn't blown a simple DP. The victory was not entirely of our own making. But i'll take it!

=Centerfield post_id=19564 time=1566490401 user_id=65] I am dreading the day I have to make that drive. My wife is going to be an absolute wreck and I'm not going to be much better. If it's anything like I remember, your little guy will love Ithaca. 4 of the best years of my life. Is he going to IC or CU?

missed opportunities liked that can end in regret.

I drove back to NY from Ithaca yesterday (dropping off little Vic at college), and its a long-ass drive, so i passed out early last night and didn't see the big finish. I wake up this morning, sad because my little guy is gone, and turn on SNY to see we came back and won. Still sad, but happy, too. Alright, Mets. Damn you. You made a bad day better, so now I guess i have to get back on board and let you break my heart again. LGFM

A fairy tale love letter to Hollywood of the late 60s, featuring a lot of driving around L.A., staring at signage. But DiCaprio and Pitt have never been better, and Robbie's performance makes the revisionist-history ending work. Pitt is weathering nicely; a little bit Redford, a little bit Tyler Durden. The movie is overlong and self-indulgent (i.e., a Tarantino movie), but well worth seeing. Its not PULP FICTION, but its not HATEFUL 8 either.

Tejada is back? really? i didn't like him much the first time.

really? that's THE ambler? He's not at all what i pictured.

BVW, the Pons, Mickey, Cano and Diaz.

Guillorme, Hechavarria, Lagares, Wheeler... that's a murderer's row right there. Wheels better have it going on tonight.

And while obviously the Mariners made the Cano/Diaz deal (and others) for the future, they had better hope those work out in the long run because right now they're looking at a drop of 23 wins off of last year's record -- 89 wins down to (a projected) 66. That's a big effin' drop for a single season. Since Cano and Diaz have a combined WAR of -.04 so far this season, i don't know that their absence from the Mariners roster has necessarily had any particular effect on their downturn.

well that nothing IS nothing, beyond Law's imputing motive and meaning that is not evidenced by the statement itself.