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Yeah you're right Edgy, I met Pete Flynn once at Gealic Park in the Bronx, a very friendly person.

Delgado had # 21 before to pay homage to Roberto Clemente so he's apparently happy to wear it.

Plummer as the bit says was a Mets bat boy in 1965, he's worked his way up the ladder, the Mets seem to have a lot of long time employees, Pete Flynn, Plummer and some of the ladies that help kids in the bathroom(what are they called), I suppose the Mets are pretty good to work for.

] don't quite get it, but I think Ronnie lives in Virginia and gave Wags a positive picture of New York. I'm afriad I may be conflating that account with another somebody that Omar was discussing. I'm trying to look like I'm working here. I think you are talking about the Mets employee that Omar gave props too, Jimmy Plummer is from the same town as Wags and Omar had him talk to Billy, they know a lot of the same people.

Good work FK, I think before Pedro's contract comes to pass the Mets will win a WS.....then it's all worth it..

That is part of the problem here Elster, Delgado's protest apparently evolved from the the United States Navy's use of Vieques as a bombing site into the use of "God Bless America" as a rallying cry for the war in Iraq and all things patriotic, at least that's how I read it....

Wally Matthews thinks Delgado should protest... ] Carlos should've stayed course November 29, 2005 In 1966, Muhammad Ali refused to submit to the draft and fight in a war he opposed on religious grounds. That decision cost Ali nearly four years of his athletic prime and countless millions. Nearly 40 years later, Carlos Delgado, with more than $40 million guaranteed him over the next four seasons, has been faced with a choice not nearly so gut-wrenching and with none of the consequences that confronted Ali. He could continue the silent protest he had begun as a member of the Toronto Blue Jays and continued during his one season as a Florida Marlin, in which he would slip away to the clubhouse while his teammates stood for the playing of "God Bless America." Or, if he wanted to fit in with the Mets, he could swallow his convictions and stand like everyone else. Delgado chose the latter. It is up to each individual to decide if this represents progress or regress. To Delgado, it simply represents reality. "I think the most important thing about integrity," he said yesterday, "is to realize what your priorities are." For Delgado, who was acquired for Mike Jacobs, Yusmeiro Petit and Grant Psomas last week, that priority is to win enough ballgames to make it to the playoffs, one of the few goals he has yet to achieve in 12 seasons. "I'm a competitor," he said. "When you're a competitor and you don't win, it -- -- , man." In the past eight years, Delgado has averaged 38 home runs and 119 RBIs per season, which makes him very good. But his stance on the war, unpopular at first but now shared by a majority of the country, according to recent polls, made him special. Even if you disagree with his politics, Delgado's willingness to break out of the mold corporate America loves to jam us in set him apart from the thousands of interchangeable young men who thrive athletically and financially in our sports-crazed culture. And it is tough to believe that the Mets, desperately in need of a big bat in the middle of their lineup, would have considered Delgado's silent protest a deal-breaker. So it was mildly disappointing when Delgado, informed by the Mets of the "team rule" concerning "God Bless America," readily agreed to be a team player. "I follow orders," he said. Delgado, of Puerto Rican descent, has always seemed a man whose sensibilities go beyond the ballpark and whose reading does not begin and end with the boxscores. He was a vocal critic of the U.S. military maneuvers in Vieques, P.R., and two years after their cessation, he remains active in the efforts to clean up the environmental damage done by years of weapons testing there. And after the U.S. invaded Iraq in 2003, Delgado began his own quiet protest against what he has called "the stupidest war ever." Yesterday, Delgado's agent, David Sloane, said, "He told me he felt ["God Bless America"] needlessly brought politics into baseball, and he felt those two things should never be combined. He never called attention to himself. He just chose to go quietly to the dugout and sit down." By doing so, Delgado was not demonstrating his lack of patriotism. Quite the opposite. He was invoking that most basic of American freedoms, the right to free speech, independent thought, the holding of a dissenting opinion. Predictably, he was vilified for it at visiting ballparks around the country, especially at Yankee Stadium, which is run by George Steinbrenner as if it were West Point South, and last year at Shea Stadium. But now Carlos Delgado is not just some visiting pacifist. He is our pacifist. Thus embol.dened by the home uniform and justified by changing popular opinion, it might have been safe to assume Delgado would bring his silent protest to Flushing with him. But no. One of the few pro athletes who had the guts to say no is now a yes man. And the silencing of his voice, whether you agree with it or not, is not a victory for democracy but a defeat. "Fred has asked and I've asked him to respect what the country wants to do," said Mets senior executive vice president and first son Jeff Wilpon, who must not read the front of the newspaper. "If the team rule is everybody stands for 'God Bless America,' he's going to stand. We told him we would like it if he did." The official line of Mets thinking is that to allow Delgado to continue his protest would create "a distraction" on the team. Delgado was asked yesterday if that was the case in Toronto or Florida. "Not at all," he replied. "It was never an issue." And yet, here, in a city that considers itself the most sophisticated in the country, if not the world, it seems as if conformity ranks second only to offensive production. "If you hit, they're gonna like you," Delgado said. "If you don't hit, they're gonna boo." No matter how well he performs as a Met, he already is less than he could have been.

Is his bro still with the Mets?

seawolf that was a classic thread, we will never forget that post.

]This team is more fun to watch in the winter than the summer. classic

I love Omar, I love being a Mets fan, I love you all....I guess signing Redman showed Wags that the Mets are serious.

Whiule I am not in love with either of them I am hoping for Hernandez, Molina is said to be sensitive, the media out west dubbed him Bengie Molasses and he flipped,he didn't talk to them after that...kinda funny really.

Willie looks great, Delgado is huge, or maybe Willie is small, is that a WS ring Willie is wearing?

Well a quick look and probably a bunch of players have 12 letters...how could I forget Mientkiewicz..

Grudzielanek could compete for longest name to ever play for the Mets....he ties Isringhausen if my eyes are not fooling me..

Hi Willets

Did we resign Lenny Harris...lose some weight Carlos..

Yes, some questions were asked in Spanish and answered in spanish...he seemed ok about it...

Was full of praise for Wright, wishes he could hit like him, or something like that.

says he will stand for "God Bless America", Mr.Wilpon asked him his views on the matter, Delgado told him his views but said that he would not put himself above the team, the Mets policy is for the whole team to stand for "God Bless America", and that's fine with him

You can watch on Mets.com..he looks good in the white top

From Newsday today... ]While negotiating with free-agent catchers Ramon Hernandez and Bengie Molina, the Mets also have held trade discussions with Tampa Bay about catcher Toby Hall. The Mets have offered a package headed by young second baseman Anderson Hernandez; the Devil Rays want pitcher Aaron Heilman.

]Where's the love for Armando? I'm sure a few people remember Armando Reynoso fondly

LOL...yeah I think we can make that exception..

Allow all players, I don't see the point in playing if all players are not allowed, no one says you have to keep them.